Information on Player Housing Caps

MornaBaine · January 2017

One of the better non-official sources of ESO information, UESP, has released the following information on player housing, which includes information on the player cap for each house. Here's the weird part, right now there is a glitch... you cannot see the player cap info on PC but CAN see in on some mobile devices. For instance:

You can visit the UESP page here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

Now, here's what they are basically saying regarding player caps:

Small - 6
Medium -12 Monmouth keep
Large - 12 Forsaken Stronghold
Manor - 24 Redguard Palace

So if you look at their chart you WILL see the size of the House and that will tell you how many players you can expect to get inside it.

Now the Forsaken Stronghold costs over a million gold unfurnished:

ZOS are you seriously telling me that for over a million in in-game gold I can expect to host no more than TWELVE PEOPLE in my house? If this is true, it is utterly unacceptable and makes the whole point of player housing completely moot. If it's NOT true, we'd sure appreciate you coming in here and finally officially announcing all the actual player caps for EACH individual house. Pretty please.

UPDATE: In even more bad news, yes indeed these player caps are official. You CAN see what the player caps are for each house, but only AFTER you have BOUGHT IT! Yes, really. The player cap is NOT in the preview of the house anywhere. Only AFTER you have purchased it will you see an option to "Browse" and then you will see THIS:

That they would HIDE this information and not give it to you BEFORE purchasing just leaves me speechless.

Uriel_Nocturne · January 2017

Wow.

Thanks for that post, OP. Informative, and a great example of some flat-out bull... [SNIp]

If I'm spending that much Gold on a Large House/Manor, I expect it to be able to hold more than twelve [SNIp] people...

[Edited for profanity]

bellatrixed · January 2017

Can confirm this is accurate. I made a thread on the PTS about this as well. This really isn't okay.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/316026/large-houses-can-only-have-12-visitors-seriously/p1?new=1

Lyserus · January 2017

WTH 12? and manor only get 24??

uhh ZOS you are really not trying to let us buy those houses yes?

Uriel_Nocturne · January 2017

bellatrixed wrote: »

Can confirm this is accurate. I made a thread on the PTS about this as well. This really isn't okay.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/316026/large-houses-can-only-have-12-visitors-seriously/p1?new=1

Agreed.

And to the moderator: Sorry about that. I didn't think that would raise any flags... >.>

NewBlacksmurf · January 2017

Nice find. Thanks

FYI your link is to photobucket and not the wiki page - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

I'll say this in terms of a few big points of discussion around housing.

1. Nothing should be in the crown store as the feedback is largely around desires of storage, player capacity and utilities. A lot of these are seeming not to be met in general based on the forums and social media comments.

2. If it's a crown store purchase, completed homes should be more complete. Meaning they should come with dps dummies, attuned crafting station and possible NPC merchant/bank enhancements. This all as result of what's in the crown store now assistants, motifs, storage for bank and inventory, etc. again based on the crown store offerings today.

I can't comment on if more than 12 /24 is needed for me but I can say that only 12 /24 is odd because when gathering for a trial or a PvP event if that's the desire....it's not ideal to only allow the chosen ppl to visit as the home would serve as a gathering point for more than just a group max based on content encounters.

Surely phasing should apply here based on a max per phase which makes sense at 6/12/24

Uriel_Nocturne · January 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nice find. Thanks

I'll say this in terms of a few big points of discussion around housing.

1. Nothing should be in the crown store as the feedback is largely around desires of storage, player capacity and utilities. A lot of these are seeming not to be met in general based on the forums and social media comments.

2. If it's a crown store purchase, completed homes should be more complete. Meaning they should come with dps dummies, attuned crafting station and possible NPC merchant/bank enhancements. This all as result of what's in the crown store now assistants, motifs, storage for bank and inventory, etc. again based on the crown store offerings today.

I can't comment on if more than 12 /24 is needed for me but I can say that only 12 /24 is odd because when gathering for a trial or a PvP event if that's the desire....it's not ideal to only allow the chosen ppl to visit as the home would serve as a gathering point for more than just a group max based on content encounters.

Surely phasing should apply here based on a max per phase which makes sense at 6/12/24

Well said.

AzuraKin · January 2017

*snickers wickedly*, i want a method of creating crafting stations in my house for dropped sets, like if i collect 10 full armor sets of a single set (trait ect dont matter) i can trade it in for a crafting station of that set. weapons are not included, craft station would consist of b/s, cloth/ and ww stations for that set and utililize a 15m by 10m space.

MornaBaine · January 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nice find. Thanks

FYI your link is to photobucket and not the wiki page - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

Derp! Thanks Smurf! Fixed!

JezzaAKTT · January 2017

Wow! So what if a guild wants to buy a house and make it "The Guild House"? You telling me that out of 500 members we can only have 12/24 players there at a time? What if the guild wanted to use "The Guild House" as a setting for guild events, like auctions or dueling tourney's? Well I can see it now, bouncers at the door checking ID's and time limits inside, lol. Thanks ZOS!

Soella · January 2017

It was discussed as soon as PTS was open on January, 3? or 4?

ZOS answered that it is due to performance limitations, they are looking into it but no promises.

Krainor1974 · January 2017

Raised Caps means more players buying houses which includes crown brought fully furnished houses and that means $$ for you guys. If you made house caps for upgradable like banks and bags with gold and crowns even more $$ for you.
It's a win win for all.

AzuraKin · January 2017

if the limitations are due to performance issues, they will probably release houses in crown shop with higher caps as they fix the performance issue problems.

Runs · January 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nice find. Thanks

FYI your link is to photobucket and not the wiki page - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

I'll say this in terms of a few big points of discussion around housing.

1. Nothing should be in the crown store as the feedback is largely around desires of storage, player capacity and utilities. A lot of these are seeming not to be met in general based on the forums and social media comments.

2. If it's a crown store purchase, completed homes should be more complete. Meaning they should come with dps dummies, attuned crafting station and possible NPC merchant/bank enhancements. This all as result of what's in the crown store now assistants, motifs, storage for bank and inventory, etc. again based on the crown store offerings today.

I can't comment on if more than 12 /24 is needed for me but I can say that only 12 /24 is odd because when gathering for a trial or a PvP event if that's the desire....it's not ideal to only allow the chosen ppl to visit as the home would serve as a gathering point for more than just a group max based on content encounters.

Surely phasing should apply here based on a max per phase which makes sense at 6/12/24

#2

Attuned crafting stations should be earned not bought. Why bother even making master writs if there is just an easy work around to get the items associated with them?

MornaBaine · January 2017

Soella wrote: »

It was discussed as soon as PTS was open on January, 3? or 4?

ZOS answered that it is due to performance limitations, they are looking into it but no promises.

While I am aware of that, there is no reason that many of these houses should not also have a 24 cap. Especially the Large ones, not just the super special, super expensive Manors and crown only purchase ones. That's completely unacceptable.

BlackSparrow · January 2017

Overall, I agree... but I have one little nitpick:

MornaBaine wrote: »

Manor - 24 Redguard Palace

The Redguard palace is not a manor. The manors are Daggerfall Overlook, Ebonheart Chateau, Serenity Falls, and the Crown store exclusives.

Hunding's Palatial Hall, gorgeous as it is, will be limited to the Large cap of 12.

OOJIMMY · January 2017

Honestly the gold needed to buy the housing is reasonable. I've made about a million this last week with out really grinding to hard

Lyserus · January 2017

OOJIMMY wrote: »

Honestly the gold needed to buy the housing is reasonable. I've made about a million this last week with out really grinding to hard

care for a donation for poor? $:\$

Krainor1974 · January 2017

BlackSparrow wrote: »

Overall, I agree... but I have one little nitpick:

MornaBaine wrote: »

Manor - 24 Redguard Palace

The Redguard palace is not a manor. The manors are Daggerfall Overlook, Ebonheart Chateau, Serenity Falls, and the Crown store exclusives.

Hunding's Palatial Hall, gorgeous as it is, will be limited to the Large cap of 12.

When I first saw it 24 was the cap

Acrolas · January 2017

Of course it's the teenage/college dream to have hundreds of people in your house to have an awesome party.

Once you actually have a house, you start getting stressed out with 2 extra people in it. Because they're going to use your restrooms and you're going to have to clean up after them. They eat your food. They look at you funny when you tell them to take off their shoes like you're suddenly the *** *** TSA.

I sent a lot more gold than I probably should have to my guild for a manor that I'm never going to set foot into. I don't care. It was a social gesture. An early Christmas card or a gift basket, if you will. That's what real homeowners do. Everything they can to avoid people messing with their stuff or getting cheesecake stains on the furniture.

MornaBaine · January 2017

Just updated the OP with even more bad news.

alexkdd99 · January 2017

Runs wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nice find. Thanks

FYI your link is to photobucket and not the wiki page - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

I'll say this in terms of a few big points of discussion around housing.

1. Nothing should be in the crown store as the feedback is largely around desires of storage, player capacity and utilities. A lot of these are seeming not to be met in general based on the forums and social media comments.

2. If it's a crown store purchase, completed homes should be more complete. Meaning they should come with dps dummies, attuned crafting station and possible NPC merchant/bank enhancements. This all as result of what's in the crown store now assistants, motifs, storage for bank and inventory, etc. again based on the crown store offerings today.

I can't comment on if more than 12 /24 is needed for me but I can say that only 12 /24 is odd because when gathering for a trial or a PvP event if that's the desire....it's not ideal to only allow the chosen ppl to visit as the home would serve as a gathering point for more than just a group max based on content encounters.

Surely phasing should apply here based on a max per phase which makes sense at 6/12/24

#2

Attuned crafting stations should be earned not bought. Why bother even making master writs if there is just an easy work around to get the items associated with them?

The same reason you can buy a nearly 4 million gold manor for crowns? Probably much easier to obtain a attuned creating station than obtaining 4 mil.

bellatrixed · January 2017

MornaBaine wrote: »

Soella wrote: »

It was discussed as soon as PTS was open on January, 3? or 4?

ZOS answered that it is due to performance limitations, they are looking into it but no promises.

While I am aware of that, there is no reason that many of these houses should not also have a 24 cap. Especially the Large ones, not just the super special, super expensive Manors and crown only purchase ones. That's completely unacceptable.

This. I don't like the 24 cap as well because it's STILL TINY. NO OTHER MMO has a cap that small for housing! Not one!

But, the fact many of us were bracing for 20-24 people for large houses, only to realize it's actually 12 for all but the manors, is a HUGE hit to any form of hype about housing.

Housing is my favorite thing to do in MMOS and I honestly don't even see the point now. I wanted to make social RP hubs for events and daily guild RP. 20 people sucks but is doable. 12 isn't worth the effort it will take to make gold, grind, or spend hard earned $$$.

static_recharge · January 2017

Not only should the cap be increased for sure, but they should tell you the cap before you buy it. Absolutely ridiculous otherwise.

ZOS_Bill · January 2017

We have closed this thread as there are a few threads already discussing player housing caps.
If you want to discuss housing caps, please use this thread linked here.