Shadow Dancer

Stygian? But it's medium

Lol sorry.

Code2501 wrote: »

Ok. If Stygian is really all we have it could use a tweak to make it more on par with sets like sun and netchs...
1) light armor not medium.
2) the 20% buff should be in stealth/invis plus 6 seconds after leaving sneak/invis to make it more on par with the huge passive spell damage buffs of the elemental sets.

I have Sygian and its a 5 light set up. There is a unique arcane ring you can get from a delve in coldharbour, couple that with 2 body pieces and a restoration destro and you have stygian in light.

lynog85 wrote: »

Code2501 wrote: »

Ok. If Stygian is really all we have it could use a tweak to make it more on par with sets like sun and netchs...
1) light armor not medium.
2) the 20% buff should be in stealth/invis plus 6 seconds after leaving sneak/invis to make it more on par with the huge passive spell damage buffs of the elemental sets.

I have Sygian and its a 5 light set up. There is a unique arcane ring you can get from a delve in coldharbour, couple that with 2 body pieces and a restoration destro and you have stygian in light.

Usefull info. Thanks. Though even with a 5 piece its not equivalent to an elemental set buff given you have to recast cloak to reapply the damage buff. It should at least last a few seconds out of cloak to warrant the mag cost of cloaking.

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

I'm quite surprised that changes haven't been made to give nbs some frost based spells. Would it make sense? Probably not, but as you mentioned dks and Templars get fire, sorcs get shock and frost is left all alone.

I actually foresee this in the future. I believe Rich Lambert mentioned improving ice abilities. I'd imagine that NB's would get some sort of "Shadow's icy touch" ability.... or something like that.

So, I did a bit of farming and got 5 piece stygian to see if it was in any way workable as a synergy set for NB comparable to elemental sets for other classes. By no means was this optimal, but just to get an idea on the numbers. Stat allocation is 44 mag and 20 health, 64 mag would boost the stygian buff further but not a ton.
The crude test was 5 spinners / 5 julianos VS 5 spinners / 5 stygian with Gold staff, Gold Armor, purple jewelry and equivalent enchants/traits

Spinners/Julianos
Mag - 33875
SD - 1927
Crit 35%

Tooltip Damage
Concealed Weapon = 6245
Grim = 11238

Spinners/Stygian
Mag - 33709 (39422 stealth)
SD 1752 (2277)
Crit 32%

Concealed Weapon = 6013 (7308)
Grim = 10821 (13152)

Ultimately, your taking a damage reduction out of stealth as expected, but even from stealth the damage increase is not huge when you factor the reduced crit. To even make it comparable your burning cloaks so it ends up a net loss damage wise.
they need to do a few things to the set to make it a set in any way worth using for NB,
1) the 20% needs to be active for some time after leaving stealth I think 6-8 seconds would give you enough time to regen from a cloak before resetting it.
2) Replace the stam with magicka regen to help balance it
3) Replace the Robust trait on the jewelry with Arcane
4) Make it light armor
1, 2 and 3 are a must for the set to be usable, 4 would just give us more flexibility with slots cause farming purple jewelry is a pain without anchors.

Any other suggestions for a NB synergy set?

What are you all talking about, magNB scales incredible well with Necropotence (shadow image). You can easily get up to 60k magicka an have insane Dampen Magicka shields.

I use stygian on my nb. I am using 2 swords but am going to try and move towards inferno staff. The damage in between big burst damage is lack luster atm.

Code2501 wrote: »

I see sets like silks of the sun and netches touch and imediately think of dk's and sorcerors and dunmer and altmer combos with class skills and passives working with racial passives to buff a full set of skills wholisicly. Even temps get some flame damage spells.
Then I look at Nb and its all magic with zero elemental synergy. I'm not arguing they should use elemental, nb's use shadow magic. But where are the sets that synergise with the class?

I can play an altmer sorc and use a full compliment of lightning class spells and lightning proc set and a lightning buff set and all that specialisation works because i have racial and class passives for shock damage.
I see sets that synergise with poison also, great for stamblades. But where is the magblade synergy?

I'm looking but the only set that comes close to being magblade focused is stygian and thats MA and underwhelming. Might be ok for ganking but for sustained pve... meh.

nobody use the Lighning stuff ( netch stuff ) on sorcerer , this bad because we lost dps on our Elemental blockade- crystal frag proc - 2 other element of the force pulse - velocious curse .