Returning to game, but can`t decide class for hybrid style.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Intro

Hello, i have an easy and at same time hard problem.
Since almost all Beth game`s, i`m playing as hybrid, even in different games, im trying to take atleast visually hybrid.
If talking more direct, im playing melee as main, and using magic as secondary( Mostly CC or defense, buffs, debuffs ). If you still didn`t get picture of my common characters, then you can compare them to...dunno Sith/Jedi from Star Wars. But yes, i understand that it`s not singleplayer, there`s " balance " , pvp and other " things ". So i will not get what i want. I get over it...life in MMO is crude and yata yata.

Question

Soo, since " BAAAALANCE " and i can`t do viable sword/magic build ( That i will able to do endgame PVE ), i`m thinking about doing swordsman as main skill bar and source of dmg and bow as secondary for...emm.....something?
Understand me right, i want a melee class with sword( not staff, scepter, mace and definitely not shield), that`s not limited to melee combat, let`s say, enemy tries to run away, but i can still attack him, or for kiting a strong enemy. Well, you get the idea i think.

P.S. Don`t care about PVP in this game too much anyway, so we`re talking about successful from lowbie to endgame PVE here.

dodgehopper_ESO · October 2016

Since you are talking about visual effects, I would say from a visual perspective 'hybrid' works fantastically.

Sorcerer is not 'a mage'. You can make a stamina based warrior Sorcerer quite well right now. Hurricane is a fantastic morph for the stamina build, trust me you'll love it if you try it and it certainly 'looks' magical.

Templars have skills like Biting Jabs, purifying light, and some nice utility skills which are magic in resource.

DK's can spit poison-fire, swipe poison claws both of which are based upon stamina resource. Using Earthen heart skills affords utility or CC effects and feeds back into your stamina and ultimate, which in turn feed back into regeneration.

Nightblades have great magical utilities like siphoning strikes, cloak, some wonderful stamina based attack morphs, a teleport, and fantastic utility skills that allow you to teleport back to an archer or summon some shadow soldiers.

The important point here is every class has skills which consume stamina (and look magical) as well as magical skills that are useful for utility and therefore useful for Stamina (Warrior) based builds. I think you can do what you want just fine, just pick a class whose theme calls out to you, and learn more about how to do exactly what you want. Don't let people tell you it can not be done. Everyone is a 'hybrid' more or less, just realize that everyone has a primary focus, and that you build your strategy around using certain 'utility' magic skills where the scaling of damage is less important than the effect desired.

Countcalorie · October 2016

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

Lashiing · October 2016

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

every class has a strong stam build, stam sorcs are very good right now

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

every class has a strong stam build, stam sorcs are very good right now

How...what. I can`t even imagine how that works.
But again its a tank...right? Or not?
Still can`t " set in my head " a sorc in stamina build...okey I get it...i will take my duals or 2h....and then what?

People, please more info. I`m total newbie right now XD

Countcalorie · October 2016

Stam sorcs= think mages who increase there physical might(I think a nord battlemage in full plate armor). there in a good place atm basicly for pve they run dw and bow to be quite effective.
They may not be what your looking for though if your looking for a class with magickal looking abilitys for stam characters then try a stamblade or stam dk
Overwise your out of luck as any true hybrid extremily underperforms for pve and needs a set that can only be crafted by a 9 trait crafter with the dark brotherhood dlc.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Countcalorie wrote: »

Stam sorcs= think mages who increase there physical might(I think a nord battlemage in full plate armor). there in a good place atm basicly for pve they run dw and bow to be quite effective.
They may not be what your looking for though if your looking for a class with magickal looking abilitys for stam characters then try a stamblade or stam dk
Overwise your out of luck as any true hybrid extremily underperforms for pve and needs a set that can only be crafted by a 9 trait crafter with the dark brotherhood dlc.

I`m looking for melee character, that uses 2h or duals ( didn`t decide yet, since i like duals visually but gap closer in 2h sounds fun...) and secondary bar for kite or buffs/debuffs. It`s not like stam/magica, i can enjoy even full stam build. My problem i can`t decide what main class to take, so i could play around it. Reading forums, i got idea that stam/magic aren`t viable at all.

So, as my taste melee weapon+bow is good enough too. I`m not gonna take magica skills in that build.

driosketch · October 2016

DK is probably you're best bet for magic buffs, CC, while using stam for weapon damage.

Lashiing · October 2016

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

every class has a strong stam build, stam sorcs are very good right now

How...what. I can`t even imagine how that works.
But again its a tank...right? Or not?
Still can`t " set in my head " a sorc in stamina build...okey I get it...i will take my duals or 2h....and then what?

People, please more info. I`m total newbie right now XD

stam sorc is so good imo because they use their magicka pool for buffs and stamina for damage

an easy starter build for to get within a day would be:
5x nm's gaze, 4x nights silence/senche/ranger's gait/wilderqueen/fiord/nm's embrace/twin sisters/leki, 3x agil

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

every class has a strong stam build, stam sorcs are very good right now

How...what. I can`t even imagine how that works.
But again its a tank...right? Or not?
Still can`t " set in my head " a sorc in stamina build...okey I get it...i will take my duals or 2h....and then what?

People, please more info. I`m total newbie right now XD

stam sorc is so good imo because they use their magicka pool for buffs and stamina for damage

an easy starter build for to get within a day would be:
5x nm's gaze, 4x nights silence/senche/ranger's gait/wilderqueen/fiord/nm's embrace/twin sisters/leki, 3x agil

Any thoughts about weapon of choice? 2h or duals are better for this?

asa67dragoneb17_ESO · October 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Since you are talking about visual effects, I would say from a visual perspective 'hybrid' works fantastically.

Sorcerer is not 'a mage'. You can make a stamina based warrior Sorcerer quite well right now. Hurricane is a fantastic morph for the stamina build, trust me you'll love it if you try it and it certainly 'looks' magical.

Templars have skills like Biting Jabs, purifying light, and some nice utility skills which are magic in resource.

DK's can spit poison-fire, swipe poison claws both of which are based upon stamina resource. Using Earthen heart skills affords utility or CC effects and feeds back into your stamina and ultimate, which in turn feed back into regeneration.

Nightblades have great magical utilities like siphoning strikes, cloak, some wonderful stamina based attack morphs, a teleport, and fantastic utility skills that allow you to teleport back to an archer or summon some shadow soldiers.

The important point here is every class has skills which consume stamina (and look magical) as well as magical skills that are useful for utility and therefore useful for Stamina (Warrior) based builds. I think you can do what you want just fine, just pick a class whose theme calls out to you, and learn more about how to do exactly what you want. Don't let people tell you it can not be done. Everyone is a 'hybrid' more or less, just realize that everyone has a primary focus, and that you build your strategy around using certain 'utility' magic skills where the scaling of damage is less important than the effect desired.

Em, okey. You`re not first who`s talking good in this thread about stamina sorc, okey...sold.

dodgehopper_ESO · October 2016

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Since you are talking about visual effects, I would say from a visual perspective 'hybrid' works fantastically.

Sorcerer is not 'a mage'. You can make a stamina based warrior Sorcerer quite well right now. Hurricane is a fantastic morph for the stamina build, trust me you'll love it if you try it and it certainly 'looks' magical.

Templars have skills like Biting Jabs, purifying light, and some nice utility skills which are magic in resource.

DK's can spit poison-fire, swipe poison claws both of which are based upon stamina resource. Using Earthen heart skills affords utility or CC effects and feeds back into your stamina and ultimate, which in turn feed back into regeneration.

Nightblades have great magical utilities like siphoning strikes, cloak, some wonderful stamina based attack morphs, a teleport, and fantastic utility skills that allow you to teleport back to an archer or summon some shadow soldiers.

The important point here is every class has skills which consume stamina (and look magical) as well as magical skills that are useful for utility and therefore useful for Stamina (Warrior) based builds. I think you can do what you want just fine, just pick a class whose theme calls out to you, and learn more about how to do exactly what you want. Don't let people tell you it can not be done. Everyone is a 'hybrid' more or less, just realize that everyone has a primary focus, and that you build your strategy around using certain 'utility' magic skills where the scaling of damage is less important than the effect desired.

Em, okey. You`re not first who`s talking good in this thread about stamina sorc, okey...sold.

You can do well with all of them. You might also consider something like a Redguard DK for a tanky stamina dps warrior who fights tirelessly. Orc Stamina Sorcerer for high speed blitzkrieg heavy dps build (redguard, khajiit, bosmer, nord, imperial all good for stamina). Templar warrior with nice self cleanse ability, go Imperial, Nord, or Argonian if you want to have a really cool tanking blazing shield option. Nightblade warriors can fight tirelessly thanks to passives and siphoning strikes, excellent for high dps and highly function in dark brotherhood, thieves guild, and sneak attacks as well as high mobility. Take your pick with what you wanna play.

DHale · October 2016

Hybrid build.... wrong game. You will be less effective solo and you will be very ineffective in a group. Don't even think hybrid.

Lashiing · October 2016

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Lashiing wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Countcalorie wrote: »

sorry to burst your bubble dude but hybrids arnt viable at all for end game pve. Ive heard some things about them being viable in pvp though.
I would go sorc and heavily invest in weapon damage while wearing the set "pelinal's apdatude"(I think thats the name)
they may be viable as tanks in pve but ive got no clue.A shame too I wanted to be a hybrid when I got the game aswell.

Sorc is a mage, annnd im not kinda interested in mages. Like i said above, i gived up on stamina/magic build, so i`m asking what are or can be good with swords( I like swords.....) as main weapon(didn`t decide what i want, two handed or duals, guess depends on what it can give...), and bow as secondary.

And yes, last time i played this game was on Beta and a bit after beta, so i have no idea what skills and what is working or not XD

every class has a strong stam build, stam sorcs are very good right now

How...what. I can`t even imagine how that works.
But again its a tank...right? Or not?
Still can`t " set in my head " a sorc in stamina build...okey I get it...i will take my duals or 2h....and then what?

People, please more info. I`m total newbie right now XD

stam sorc is so good imo because they use their magicka pool for buffs and stamina for damage

an easy starter build for to get within a day would be:
5x nm's gaze, 4x nights silence/senche/ranger's gait/wilderqueen/fiord/nm's embrace/twin sisters/leki, 3x agil

Any thoughts about weapon of choice? 2h or duals are better for this?

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Returning to game, but can`t decide class for hybrid style.

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