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2Handed vs Dual wield advantage

alephthiago
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In your opinion, what is the biggest advantage of using 2handed over dual wield for stamina builds in PVP?
What can we do/change to get dual wield to a better spot and improve build diversity?
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  • Jeckll
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    Advantage: Rally
    Bonus: Execute

    Dual Wield is doing good in PvP and is THE best PvE option.
    Nothing has to change in terms of 2h and DW.
    Edited by Jeckll on September 23, 2016 10:45AM
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  • Swainburg
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    Great question. In my opinion its the single target execute alongside the power of dizzying swing.

    Dual wield is in a good place in pvp, lots of people use it well too.

    2h = burst

    Dw = constant damage

    I'd even say DW is better in duels like on a stam sorc or something. It all depends on the skills on the bar and the player and opponent.

    It sounds like you believe DW is bad, and its really not that bad. Especially if you got a maelstrom dagger or two.
    Edited by Swainburg on September 23, 2016 10:51AM
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  • strikeback1247
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    2H has pure burst with WB and exec and a nice heal + source of major brutality with rally. DW is good if your class has a spammable damage ability.
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    DW works well for NB, with surprise attack as your main attack you're getting a good amount of damage or crit amount boost with daggers or swords.
  • Asardes
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    DW could work in PvP for NB, because they have a gap closer (ambush), a cheap spammable (surprise attack) and an execute (killer's blade) as stamina morph class abilities and a fear effect from mass hysteria. Other classes need the knockdown from dizzying swing and the execute from executioner. But rally can still be useful to a NB since it is the only way to get major brutality without breaking stealth - power extraction has to hit an enemy to grant the buff.
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    I also forgot to mention rally, because a lot of stam lack a reliable burst self heal. Rally keeps people alive in open world, DW doesnt have that. If your class already has a reliable self heal to use alongside vigor, then you dont need rally. (Crit surge stam sorc)
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  • alephthiago
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    Swainburg wrote: »
    Great question. In my opinion its the single target execute alongside the power of dizzying swing.

    Dual wield is in a good place in pvp, lots of people use it well too.

    2h = burst

    Dw = constant damage

    I'd even say DW is better in duels like on a stam sorc or something. It all depends on the skills on the bar and the player and opponent.

    It sounds like you believe DW is bad, and its really not that bad. Especially if you got a maelstrom dagger or two.

    I dont believe its bad, its just underused in open world pvp, cyrodiil right now is a festival of 2handers/bow, i know it performs very well in duels
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  • PrinceFabious
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    DW is in a great place in pvp. It requires more skill because of its lack of gap closer/execute/heals thus requiring a higher skill cap. I play nothing but DW on my stam sorc in pvp
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  • Xvorg
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    Asardes wrote: »
    DW could work in PvP for NB, because they have a gap closer (ambush), a cheap spammable (surprise attack) and an execute (killer's blade) as stamina morph class abilities and a fear effect from mass hysteria. Other classes need the knockdown from dizzying swing and the execute from executioner. But rally can still be useful to a NB since it is the only way to get major brutality without breaking stealth - power extraction has to hit an enemy to grant the buff.

    I've ben thinking on Diz swing use latelely and I don't find it is super useful in group fights. Most of the guys you will encouter have broken CC and sometimed the CC you apply means an ally cannot apply his CC (fear, for example).

    Nonetheless, in solo playing is key
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    If you can live without the rally heal, dreugh king slayer set is great source of major brutality for both DW and 2H (make room for other abilities). Speed buff after kills can be fun for battlefield maneuverability, too.
  • DephlaterMouse
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    The only place where 2H has an advantage over dual wield is in low level BWB PVP. The 2H passive increasing sword damage, maul armor penetration cannot be had much earlier.

    Also dizzying swings can be had at level 14 and an execute at level 20.
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  • Hutch679
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    As a stam DK I prefer fossilize and wrecking blow over using the dizzy swing morph. Fossilize is unblockable. Hit that venom claw, fossilize wrecking blow, dawn breaker combo. Yikes.
  • Alucardo
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    I don't really compare them because I use 2h and DW on my stamina builds. If I were to list what I miss if I didn't have a 2h, it would definitely be a burst heal and gap closer. I can live without an execute, because my DW does enough damage to burst things down (especially when you have the DW passives maxed)
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    I prefer duel wield. Heavy attacks equal 2 hits and you also have 2 seperate weapon enchant cooldowns. This makes fighting dodge chance users very easy.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on September 29, 2016 12:22AM
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  • DHale
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    Gap closer and stam gen for each kill.
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  • mtwiggz
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    Biggest draw back of using DW over 2H is the lack of gap closer, unless you're a NB.

    You could most definitely back bar a 2H and use Crit Rush to gap close then bar swap to DW. Yet with all of the latency issues a lot of the time swapping weapons like that is a complete fail.

    S&B is a very viable option that has a gap closer, two spammable DPS options and a defile. Only thing you're lacking is an execute. You could switch to your 2H bar to execute in this setup but most decent players will get out of range or heal while you swap.
  • altemriel
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    nice thing is that dual wield counts as 2 pieces to set bonuses
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  • texassob
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    im currently running dw/2h on my nb, works pretty good.
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