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What is the optimal race for a magicka templar?
Conjurer
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I know there is tons of other threads about this but they are mostly inconclusive. And I was curious about which is the most popular race for a magicka templar.
Edited by Conjurer on August 30, 2016 1:13PM What is the optimal race for a magicka templar? 94 votes
Altmer
37%
35 votes
Breton
29%
28 votes
Dunmer
23%
22 votes
Imperial
9%
9 votes
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✭BretonMy main Templar is an Altmer, but I do prefer my EP/DC's Breton tbh. The cost-reduction is amazing now that they silently increased all costs with the previous DLC. I guess for high-end maximum dmg-output with a maelstrom-staff, Altmer might be better as the damage-increase from elem.
I do prefer my Breton anyway.
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✭✭✭✭AltmerDumner for straight pve dps.
Altmer for all round. Good for dps and healing, good sustain for pvp too.0 -
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✭✭✭Argonian for heals and magicka maintainance with 12% resource return when drinking pots, as well as a good health buff and resistance. They aren't as squishy as other magicka-based classes.Edited by WuffyCerulei on August 30, 2016 1:23PMFor the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR2 -
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✭✭✭✭Altmerwolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »Argonian for heals and magicka maintainance with 12% resource return when drinking pots, as well as a good health buff and resistance. They aren't as squishy as other magicka-based classes.
Altmer will out preform an Argonian for sustain.0 -
MrTarkanian48✭✭✭✭AltmerMag Templars are arguably the best healers in the game. They have some powerful healing abilities, easy access to major mending, and also great group support abilities with Shards, Repentence, etc.
They also are very competitive as damage dealers with several dot damage skills, and Radiant Destruction which is the best execute in the game.
I would say Altmer would be the safest choice if you want to be flexible and be able to switch between roles. 10% magic, and 9% regen are useful for both roles. The added elemental damage will also boost some Templar skills and attacks with the destro skill line.
If you know you want to be a healer, the best specialized race would be either Breton or Argonian (since the latest DLC). I heal on my Altmer mainly now, but sometimes with it was Breton for the added spell resist. Running around in all light armor makes you vulnerable and every bit of mitigation can be helpful.
Maximum damage would probably be Dunmer with 7% flame damage, but you don't get any boost to resource management.
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✭Altmerwolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »Argonian for heals and magicka maintainance with 12% resource return when drinking pots, as well as a good health buff and resistance. They aren't as squishy as other magicka-based classes.
I've ran a Argonian healer before, all these things are true. Sadly, it didn't work out for my playstyle. But Argonian definitely going to be a little better with the recent race changes.
The health passive is a really nice plus. Great for PVP which is mainly what I did.Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on August 30, 2016 3:10PM1 -
bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭best dunno
most awesome argonian fosoHaze Ramoran Dunmer Dragonknight Tank/Dps – Smoked-Da-Herb Saxheel Templar Tank/Healer
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭AltmerDepends. For all around I'd say altmer due to regen, but for those who are pure pve I'd say dunmer.0
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Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.Argonian forever0 -
Conjurer✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.0 -
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✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.Argonian forever0 -
Conjurer✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.
1) Isn't the spell resistance cap is 33k? I don't know about you but with a light armor build I'm nowhere near that.
2) I don't know how diminishing returns work and how less effective they make reduction than regen.
3) Most dps on a Templar will be done using the Aedric Spear skill line which contains no elemental damage. Infact there is only one Templar skill that does fire damage and that is reflective light.0 -
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✭✭✭✭AltmerSilver_Strider wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.
1) Isn't the spell resistance cap is 33k? I don't know about you but with a light armor build I'm nowhere near that.
2) I don't know how diminishing returns work and how less effective they make reduction than regen.
3) Most dps on a Templar will be done using the Aedric Spear skill line which contains no elemental damage. Infact there is only one Templar skill that does fire damage and that is reflective light.
The main dps is sweeps. With a medium destro weave in between every sweep.
While wall of elements is down.
Dropping shooting stars as ultimate.
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Conjurer✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.
1) Isn't the spell resistance cap is 33k? I don't know about you but with a light armor build I'm nowhere near that.
2) I don't know how diminishing returns work and how less effective they make reduction than regen.
3) Most dps on a Templar will be done using the Aedric Spear skill line which contains no elemental damage. Infact there is only one Templar skill that does fire damage and that is reflective light.
The main dps is sweeps. With a medium destro weave in between every sweep.
While wall of elements is down.
Dropping shooting stars as ultimate.
That extra damage of high elf or dumner adds up
But is that 4% fire damage increase worth giving up 4k spell resist?0 -
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✭✭✭✭AltmerSilver_Strider wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.
1) Isn't the spell resistance cap is 33k? I don't know about you but with a light armor build I'm nowhere near that.
2) I don't know how diminishing returns work and how less effective they make reduction than regen.
3) Most dps on a Templar will be done using the Aedric Spear skill line which contains no elemental damage. Infact there is only one Templar skill that does fire damage and that is reflective light.
The main dps is sweeps. With a medium destro weave in between every sweep.
While wall of elements is down.
Dropping shooting stars as ultimate.
That extra damage of high elf or dumner adds up
But is that 4% fire damage increase worth giving up 4k spell resist?
For pve, absolutely.
For pvp, I don't think it makes a huge difference either way.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DunmerBreton for Heals, Dunmer for Damage, Altmer for all around, Argonian if you want to look like Godzilla...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BretonFor pvp: picking a Breton Templar could mean the difference between stretching stats to reach attempt to reach 30k spell resistance or easily getting 33k and dedicating CP towards physical defense. The cost reduction helps for niche blazing shield builds looking to maximize magicka resource regen this patch.
For PVE, I would choose altmer for dps.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭✭BretonSilver_Strider wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »It really depends on what you want to do with it.
For pure heals - Argonian or Altmer
For DPS/heals - Dunmer or Altmer
For tank - Argonian or Dunmer.
What about Breton? They have spell resistance so they're suitable as a tank, they have magicka reduction so they can be healers and finally they have max magicka for DPS.
1) Spell Resistance is the easiest stat for tanks to cap. Even without trying, you'll hit resist cap on most builds so the extra spell resist is practically useless. Argonians have more health and Dunmer have more stamina, both of which are much more useful to tanking than spell resistance.
2) 3% Cost reduction is mildly useful but since it suffers from diminish returns, it becomes a lot less useful in comparion to Altmer's regen passive. Argonians might lack the high magic of Bretons but coupled with the 5% extra healing Argonians have as well as the 12% potion return, it makes Argonians slightly better pure healers than Bretons.
3) Breton falls behind both Dunmer and Altmer when it comes to magic DPS, since a large portion of a standard magic build's DPS is elemental in nature, which those 2 races have passive increases for.
I'm not saying Bretons are bad but when comparing what they offer against the other magic races, they fall behind slightly and considering that the OP wants the most optimal, Breton does not fall into this category sadly.
1) Isn't the spell resistance cap is 33k? I don't know about you but with a light armor build I'm nowhere near that.
2) I don't know how diminishing returns work and how less effective they make reduction than regen.
3) Most dps on a Templar will be done using the Aedric Spear skill line which contains no elemental damage. Infact there is only one Templar skill that does fire damage and that is reflective light.
The main dps is sweeps. With a medium destro weave in between every sweep.
While wall of elements is down.
Dropping shooting stars as ultimate.
That extra damage of high elf or dumner adds up
But is that 4% fire damage increase worth giving up 4k spell resist?
For pve, absolutely.
For pvp, I don't think it makes a huge difference either way.
Unless you are a vampire. Fire can hurt lolMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭BretonBreton is the best for any class for me....
I choose Breton for all of my magicka classes, but in all honesty, for my templar I find it to be the best. I have tried templar in many races, as a templar addict, and Breton just seems more survivable, and overall better than the others. I am not one of those people who checks numbers and tries to always min/max everything, I am just going by the way that my characters play, and my breton templar is, has always been, and will always be, my main and my best
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