Mage Light doesn't reveal stealthed / cloaked targets correctly

frozywozy · August 2016

I've been getting this bug lately where I am stealthed while casting Inner Light to reveal a nightblade spamming Cloak closeby. Suddenly I get revealed (not by Mage Light - there is no white ball floating around me meaning that I got revealed by it) but I am not revealing the nightblade with my Mage Light.

Seems like Mage Light is not always detecting correctly even if the Nightblade is right on top of me obviously because I get revealed by him passing next to me.

Skyy · August 2016

I think it might just be the incredibly tiny range of magelight.

duuude9192b14_ESO · August 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

I've been getting this bug lately where I am stealthed while casting Inner Light to reveal a nightblade spamming Cloak closeby. Suddenly I get revealed (not by Mage Light - there is no white ball floating around me meaning that I got revealed by it) but I am not revealing the nightblade with my Mage Light.

Seems like Mage Light is not always detecting correctly even if the Nightblade is right on top of me obviously because I get revealed by him passing next to me.

I have had this experience as well. With both Mage Light AND Expert Hunter.

MalakithAlamahdi · August 2016

Yea, I complained about this in multiple posts already, but like always, no answers.

KenaPKK · August 2016

"Spamming cloak closeby."

Rage_Killin · August 2016

No ETA

HeroOfNone · August 2016

There is a difference as well with detection of targets and the mage light reveal that prevents them from going back into stealth. Lets say your detection radius is 5m, mage light may only increase this another 5m or so. I need to check these values, remembering off the top of my head)l. So you can see them at 10m out. The "reveal" is still limited to 5m though. So you need to close in quick to make sure they don't leave your detection radius. If you use a detection potion you can get another 20m of detection (30m or so total).

Keep in mind though if a target is BEHIND the way you are facing though your detection radius is something like 2m or less. Mage light will reveal these enemies though if they come into that 5m radius, making it a great tool to prevent the 2 hit gank.

Hope that helps, I'll have some yest videos showing off detection in a new build video sometime this week.

God_flakes · August 2016

So let me see if I have this right. Cloak is audible and now totally breakable and indeed constantly breaking, rendering it totally useless and people are still crying about it?

KenaPKK · August 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

So let me see if I have this right. Cloak is audible and now totally breakable and indeed constantly breaking, rendering it totally useless and people are still crying about it?

^

Edit: Note that it constantly breaks on its own. You don't even need to actively break it. It just does its own thing.

susmitds · August 2016

It is actually not a bug, but a mechanic if the Nightblade was a Bosmer or a Khajiit. Their racial skill Stealthy doesn't have any effect on stealth radius. Instead it decreases the detection radius of the other players and any skills that increase that. The sentry set can also do something similar by increasing the detection radius of the player. So even if he is out of the detection radius of Magelight, his own detection radius would be large enough to detect you.

donJay · August 2016

It's not broken. The range is VERY VERY VERY small.

Minno · August 2016

susmitds wrote: »

It is actually not a bug, but a mechanic if the Nightblade was a Bosmer or a Khajiit. Their racial skill Stealthy doesn't have any effect on stealth radius. Instead it decreases the detection radius of the other players and any skills that increase that. The sentry set can also do something similar by increasing the detection radius of the player. So even if he is out of the detection radius of Magelight, his own detection radius would be large enough to detect you.

Interesting. Sometimes I wish there tooltips were explained in this fashion to give insights how the game is coded.

newtinmpls · August 2016

Ever since they changed it from a toggle, it's been crap

I've died faster many many times due to this (granted, I probably would have died anyway, but I could have gotten SOMETHING in).

zyk · August 2016

newtinmpls wrote: »

Ever since they changed it from a toggle, it's been crap

Untrue. I ran with it in 2.3 and it was deadly against NBs. The cloak lockout is a death sentence to some builds.

I'm not saying there isn't an issue now, but it certainly hasn't been crap since the change.

GreenSoup2HoT · August 2016

If someone uses the Sentry set then uses Radiant Mage Light, it will reveal enemy players without them knowing like the old Radiant Mage Light used to.

Chori · August 2016

Just a heads up it might noe be cloaking constantly. As a nightblade, when you are in stealth and you swap weapons the character plays a cloak animation sound. I could be sitting right next to someone and swap weapons like madman and enjoy how paranoid ppl gets.

KenaPKK · September 2016

I want old Radiant Magelight back.

Old Radiant turned mageblade into a hunter.

Wreuntzylla · September 2016

It's been a while, but I though the bug was that the cloaked opponent had to be in range when magelight is cast. I have not been able to get it to work by casting and then running over someone. But again, that was a while ago.