Zorgon_The_Revenged wrote: »Spearblade wrote: »As a Nightblade, we often initiate combat from Stealth/Cloak. It's kind of our thing. As is, if we want Major Brutality before we launch a sneak attack, we have to use Rally or use fancy potions. It's very limiting.
Maybe change NB's Master Assassin passive, remove the 5%/10% damage bonus and change it to granting minor sorcery/brutality at rank one and both minor and major sorcery/brutality at rank two.
Who's going to QQ about a 5/10% stealth nerf to NB's?
Yeah, no.
Your trade off for being otherwise godlike is a class skill that requires you to be in melee range to get the buff otherwise slot a 2H or DW and throw the dagger.
To the guy who posted I can't ******* believe this ****
I fell over laughing.
Yay Let's give nb's everything they want in the easiest way to get. Why major brutality only You should want to get major berserk... And for real You have power extraction which gives it. The fact You cannot use it outside of fight sounds fair for me due to fact You have 9% more wep/spell dmg in hide and minor berserk also. Stamplars dont have ANY class major blutality and dont cry.
Stamplars have a lot going for them. The only stam class with a class purge now that cloak no longer purges. Major Mending, 10% crit dmg, 6% wep dmg, etc. They are OP af.
FullBlownBeast wrote: »What poor game design? It's about making choices.
Part of the allure of stamina sorc is we don't have to rely on rally. There are a ton of buffs nb has access to that I do not. Bottom line is stamina nb is very powerful so only way IMO they get major brutality is with significant nerf to whatever ability that it attaches to.
Spearblade wrote: »Yeah, no.
Your trade off for being otherwise godlike is a class skill that requires you to be in melee range to get the buff otherwise slot a 2H or DW and throw the dagger.
To the guy who posted I can't ******* believe this ****
I fell over laughing.
Slotting 2H isn't a punishment. It's a good skill line (except Cleave...). Exe/Reverse Slice is a better execute than Killer's Blade, Dizzying Blow remains strong, and of course...Rally. 2H isn't uncommon on ANY stamina char, especially in PVP.
I don't really know what you're scared of. People with a lot of gold running Major Brutality pots already exist.
And having weapon choices being restricted as a "trade off" is just poor game design, and not the vision of ESO.
Spearblade wrote: »Part of the allure of stamina sorc is we don't have to rely on rally. There are a ton of buffs nb has access to that I do not. Bottom line is stamina nb is very powerful so only way IMO they get major brutality is with significant nerf to whatever ability that it attaches to.
I'm not opposed to adjustments to skills to accomodate Major Brutality.
But again, I agree Sorcerers are FUBAR'ed right now. Marrying other classes to Rally/2H, just so Sorcerer feels special isn't a solution though. They need something else to make them feel more unique, and ZOS keeps diddling with pets with poor results.
I contributed to Stam Sorc threads for a couple months before DB release before giving up on em.
Stam sorc is in a good place right now. Hardly fubar.
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »They should just make a Monster Set that gives you Major Brutality/Sorcery. Boom fixed.
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »They should just make a Monster Set that gives you Major Brutality/Sorcery. Boom fixed.
That won't solve anything. Then you're losing out on a valuable set bonus that you can otherwise still get, AND get Major Brutality/Sorcery from a skill/potion. That's why I don't understand why people like Dreugh King Slayer. You're missing out on a valuable 5 piece bonus to get something that's already obtainable in other ways. It's a net loss.
Anti_Virus wrote: »Suggestions:
Siphoning Attacks:
New effect: casting grants major brutality and major sorcery.
In addtion you restore 700 magicka and stamina each light and heavy attack this effect has a cool down of 1 sec and have a 10% of restoring an addtional 2300 magic and stamina
increase duration to 30 sec
-Or-
Relentless Focus
New effect: grants major brutality increasing WD by 20% and minor endurance 10% stam recov increase
Merciless Resolve
New effect: grants major sorcery increasing SD by 20% and increases base dmg of spectral bow proc.
I personally like the first option better and if implemented I wouldn't mind a nerf compensation to Relentless Focus. SA would be perfect it falls in line with other class dmg buffs
Sorcs have surge which heals them in addtion to WD/SD buffs
DKs have igneous Weps which add minor brutality stamina and buffs the whole group plus one morph gives 40% Heavy attack dmg
As for templars im open for suggestions I want that class to also have a WD/SD buff.
mildlylucid wrote: »My personal opinion based of experience and what I would like to see in the game:
Nightblades are probably the most balanced class (At least stamina nightblades, haven't seen to many magicka ones and I'm still levelling mine). Sure they're not perfect and don't have access to everything in their class abilities however I believe this should be the case, for nightblades and for all classes. This is an MMO and so teamwork and variety should be rewarded. In a group each class should be able to bring something unique to the table. So what if only nightblades can't give themselves major brutality whilst staying stealth without using rally, that's a challenge to be worked around and isn't really an issue if it's true for most of the classes in the game.
FullBlownBeast wrote: »I don't *** believe this ***...
Lava_Croft wrote: »I think buffing StamBlades should be top priority.
No. Just no.
Loooooool
Strider_Roshin wrote: »FullBlownBeast wrote: »I don't *** believe this ***...Lava_Croft wrote: »I think buffing StamBlades should be top priority.No. Just no.Loooooool
I think it's funny. The focus of this forum is to have a means of acquiring major brutality (and now major sorcery) through the means of a class ability for the sake of convenience, and build diversity, and everyone flips their lid. It's not even a buff lol. I swear, you could ask for a cosmetic change for the stamblade, and people will freak out.
Strider_Roshin wrote: »FullBlownBeast wrote: »I don't *** believe this ***...Lava_Croft wrote: »I think buffing StamBlades should be top priority.No. Just no.Loooooool
I think it's funny. The focus of this forum is to have a means of acquiring major brutality (and now major sorcery) through the means of a class ability for the sake of convenience, and build diversity, and everyone flips their lid. It's not even a buff lol. I swear, you could ask for a cosmetic change for the stamblade, and people will freak out.
Toc de Malsvi wrote: »Some of you just suggested giving up Minor Berserk for Major Brut... I suggest you learn more about the game before advocating a massive nerf to your class. Minor Berserk is not only better than Major Brutality but you can stack it with Major Brutality and no one else has it. Hundings as the only set....SMH
Anti_Virus wrote: »Suggestions:
Siphoning Attacks:
New effect: casting grants major brutality and major sorcery.
In addtion you restore 700 magicka and stamina each light and heavy attack this effect has a cool down of 1 sec and have a 10% of restoring an addtional 2300 magic and stamina
increase duration to 30 sec
-Or-
Relentless Focus
New effect: grants major brutality increasing WD by 20% and minor endurance 10% stam recov increase
Merciless Resolve
New effect: grants major sorcery increasing SD by 20% and increases base dmg of spectral bow proc.
I personally like the first option better and if implemented I wouldn't mind a nerf compensation to Relentless Focus. SA would be perfect it falls in line with other class dmg buffs
Sorcs have surge which heals them in addtion to WD/SD buffs
DKs have igneous Weps which add minor brutality stamina and buffs the whole group plus one morph gives 40% Heavy attack dmg
As for templars im open for suggestions I want that class to also have a WD/SD buff.
As a NB, I wouldn't want either of those changes. I'd prefer to not nerf the resources gained from Siphoning Attacks, and I don't want to give up Minor Berserk from Relentless Focus.