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Official Discussion thread for "Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video"

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This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video. Read the article for all the must-know Thieves Guild DLC game pack details for you, including features, pricing, release dates, and more!
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  • Paulington
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    Excellent details @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, really can't wait!

    Can we have those natch potes now? :smirk:.
  • petraeus1
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    Rich! PogChamp PogChamp

    From the sketch overview of the map, it looked as if Abah's Landing is GIGANTIC, like 1/3 of the entire zone. Is that correct? Does that mean the zone is smaller than, say, Wrothgar, or that Abah's Landing is simply enormous?

    Am I correct in reading that the special locations for the heist quests are Hew's Bane exclusive?

    Edit: given the price of the DLC as well as the fact there's just 2 delves and world bosses, I assume it's not as large as Wrothgar (which, admittedly, was a very large zone)?
    Edited by petraeus1 on January 28, 2016 3:38PM
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    im quite interested in these "assistants" is there any more info on this subject?
  • Ilsabet
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    This all sounds pretty rad.

    I wonder how characters who haven't yet unlocked other alliances will be able to do quests "all over Tamriel" if they can't access certain locations.

    Outlaw style motif for the DLC, and several new motifs for the base game sounds awesome. I wonder if the "Three Alliance Motifs" will be reminiscent of the cinematic costumes.

    Also:
    Guild Job Quests: Kari, a precise Nord woman who keeps accounts of the guild's finances, as well as accounts of information and rumors runs the Guild Job Board.

    The anime fan in me wonders if this is a reference to Kari Wahlgren, who voiced Vex in Skyrim.
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  • Dominoid
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    petraeus1 wrote: »
    Rich! PogChamp PogChamp

    From the sketch overview of the map, it looked as if Abah's Landing is GIGANTIC, like 1/3 of the entire zone. Is that correct? Does that mean the zone is smaller than, say, Wrothgar, or that Abah's Landing is simply enormous?

    I'd say because there are only 2 delves and 2 world bosses in the zone, it is much smaller. It does integrate into the base game as well though.
    Edited by Dominoid on January 28, 2016 4:06PM
  • Gilvoth
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    we morrowind loving thieve rouge assassin types have been waiting for this for a long long long time.
    i know myself ive been waiting for this patch since beta 2013 :)
    this is soo awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Cinbri
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    So exact pts date will be announced on tomorrow ESO Live? Wonder about Soul-Shriven: is it new craftable style too or just skin, granted for completing Cadwell?
    Edited by Cinbri on January 28, 2016 4:17PM
  • Shadesofkin
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    Seeing a suggestion that I've been making for well over a year (regular repeatable guild quests) take form I'm immeasurably excited for what this means for base game and future additional content.
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  • Paulington
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    So exact pts date will be announced on tomorrow ESO Live? Wonder about Soul-Shriven: is it new craftable style too or just skin, granted for completing Cadwell?

    It says a new craftable style, maybe it's the same as the Soul-Shriven Costumes you could get in the Crown Store? :).
  • Turelus
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    Looking interesting so far. I might have to start logging in again for this.

    Still hoping for all sets at all levels, but I guess I'll be waiting until VR removal for that.
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  • Cinbri
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    Paulington wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    So exact pts date will be announced on tomorrow ESO Live? Wonder about Soul-Shriven: is it new craftable style too or just skin, granted for completing Cadwell?

    It says a new craftable style, maybe it's the same as the Soul-Shriven Costumes you could get in the Crown Store? :).
    Also i wonder about new alliance styles. Will they make unique alliance style of sets from IC as craftable motifs?

  • Enodoc
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    Looking forward to it! The precedent for "Guild dailies" is clearly being set in TG, so I hope you'll extend this back to the original guilds too. :)
    You've heard it before, but Fighters and Mages Guild Dailies would be great to see. Since they're base-game guilds, this could reasonably be a base-game content update, but it could also be a Crown Store pack to get some more revenue in.

    petraeus1 wrote: »
    Rich! PogChamp PogChamp

    From the sketch overview of the map, it looked as if Abah's Landing is GIGANTIC, like 1/3 of the entire zone. Is that correct? Does that mean the zone is smaller than, say, Wrothgar, or that Abah's Landing is simply enormous?

    Am I correct in reading that the special locations for the heist quests are Hew's Bane exclusive?

    Edit: given the price of the DLC as well as the fact there's just 2 delves and world bosses, I assume it's not as large as Wrothgar (which, admittedly, was a very large zone)?
    Yeah it seems the heists are exclusive. Not necessarily Hew's Bane exclusive, but you'd need to own the DLC to get there.

    Two delves and two group bosses would be exactly equivalent to one standard subzone, something akin to the size of Daenia or Jodewood; essentially 1/3 the size of a normal zone.


    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Any chance of getting a high-res version of that concept art map seen in the video at 0:51?
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  • Zyle
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    Is there any way we can see some more details on the following:

    "Tons of combat and gameplay balance improvements"

    "Improvements and updates to Cyrodiil and its campaigns"

    "Prioritization of animations during combat"

    Everything else was pretty defined...

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Is there any way we can see some more details on the following:

    "Tons of combat and gameplay balance improvements"

    "Improvements and updates to Cyrodiil and its campaigns"

    "Prioritization of animations during combat"

    Everything else was pretty defined...

    Those were purposely fairly broad statements since there are so many improvements going into each. As an example, we currently have 13 pages just for gameplay balance changes alone from the PTS patch notes. Until those get published, you can catch up with some of the incoming Cyrodiil updates from a previous ESO Live where Brian Wheeler was discussing his plans:
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  • Zyle
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    Is there any way we can see some more details on the following:

    "Tons of combat and gameplay balance improvements"

    "Improvements and updates to Cyrodiil and its campaigns"

    "Prioritization of animations during combat"

    Everything else was pretty defined...

    Those were purposely fairly broad statements since there are so many improvements going into each. As an example, we currently have 13 pages just for gameplay balance changes alone from the PTS patch notes. Until those get published, you can catch up with some of the incoming Cyrodiil updates from a previous ESO Live where Brian Wheeler was discussing his plans:

    13 pages :open_mouth: Can't wait to see what has been changed, tyvm for the quick response.

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  • Lorkhan
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    pts release date announcement tomorrow? please
  • Darkeus
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    Is there any way we can see some more details on the following:

    "Tons of combat and gameplay balance improvements"

    "Improvements and updates to Cyrodiil and its campaigns"

    "Prioritization of animations during combat"

    Everything else was pretty defined...

    Those were purposely fairly broad statements since there are so many improvements going into each. As an example, we currently have 13 pages just for gameplay balance changes alone from the PTS patch notes. Until those get published, you can catch up with some of the incoming Cyrodiil updates from a previous ESO Live where Brian Wheeler was discussing his plans:

    awesome! minor skills changes or something big?
  • Enodoc
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Any chance of getting a high-res version of that concept art map seen in the video at 0:51?

    A very good chance, actually! We're working on getting it ready for public release (just putting it on a nice background, adding our logo, etc.)
    Oh cool, thanks! How about that full Tamriel cartography-style map from 1:48 then? ;) (I've seen it around, but not as an officially-released high-res image)

    (As a side note, are there any official high-res versions of the Wrothgar and Murkmire concept art maps available anywhere?)
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  • Caroloces
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    One of the most exciting aspects are the far-flung quests across Tamriel.
    I would think that Cyrodiil will not be included in this, but I'm wondering about zones that are limited by the constraints of the current game: If you're level 1-50 in the Ebonheart Pact, and a quest points to Auridon, How do you gain access to that zone.
    If you're on Cad's Silver, and you haven't unlocked zones in Cad's Gold, and a Thieves Guild mission directs you to those areas . . .? Anyway, you get the idea. How will this work?
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    Caroloces wrote: »
    One of the most exciting aspects are the far-flung quests across Tamriel.
    I would think that Cyrodiil will not be included in this, but I'm wondering about zones that are limited by the constraints of the current game: If you're level 1-50 in the Ebonheart Pact, and a quest points to Auridon, How do you gain access to that zone.
    If you're on Cad's Silver, and you haven't unlocked zones in Cad's Gold, and a Thieves Guild mission directs you to those areas . . .? Anyway, you get the idea. How will this work?
    I would imagine that such quests would only be available to players who have reached Level 50/VR1; before that, those quests would be confined to your own alliance.
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  • Kildayen
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    It says that we have to purchase the new Thieve's Guild in the crown store if we want to participate on the PTS. We don't have to if we are subscribed though, right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Also, 13 pages of patch notes just for gameplay balance kinda excites me and scares me at the same time lol.
  • Ilsabet
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    Caroloces wrote: »
    One of the most exciting aspects are the far-flung quests across Tamriel.
    I would think that Cyrodiil will not be included in this, but I'm wondering about zones that are limited by the constraints of the current game: If you're level 1-50 in the Ebonheart Pact, and a quest points to Auridon, How do you gain access to that zone.
    If you're on Cad's Silver, and you haven't unlocked zones in Cad's Gold, and a Thieves Guild mission directs you to those areas . . .? Anyway, you get the idea. How will this work?

    The Gold unlocking won't be an issue since at that point you'll be able to get anywhere in Silver or Gold zones just by reaching V1.

    But I had the same question for characters who haven't gotten to V1 yet.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    It says that we have to purchase the new Thieve's Guild in the crown store if we want to participate on the PTS. We don't have to if we are subscribed though, right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Also, 13 pages of patch notes just for gameplay balance kinda excites me and scares me at the same time lol.

    "Purchase" is a little misleading. Everyone (subscribers and non-subscribers) will need to "purchase" the DLC in order to gain access to the content on the PTS, but it will be extremely cheap, and everyone will be granted crowns in order to get it.
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  • Zyle
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    AH, now I remember what else I was curious about. It wasn't in this specific video, so slightly slightly off topic, but it is related to the Thieves Guild update. In this article (http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/10506/More-on-the-Thieves-Guild-DLC-with-Rich-Lambert.html) I noticed he said this: "In addition, Cadwell’s silver/gold quest rewards have been improved significantly!"

    Is there anyway you can elaborate on this? Will it be significant enough of a change that people who have already completed silver/gold will want it?

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