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That is a lot of EP

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  • Alomar
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    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?
    Edited by Alomar on September 30, 2015 4:35PM
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  • manny254
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    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's late night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    It is just sad that they can not balance the pops. For several hours of the day they can be balanced, but they tilt out of balance far too often for anyone to care about the map anymore. The worst part is the mechanic intended to balance the pops made them worse. It was locked EP, 2 bar AD, 3 bar DC. Yet our group of 10 was the largest opposition that most of the EP faction had to face at a DC scroll gate, and of course they had so many people they wanted to run 2 scrolls at once.
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    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

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    manny254 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's late night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    It is just sad that they can not balance the pops. For several hours of the day they can be balanced, but they tilt out of balance far too often for anyone to care about the map anymore. The worst part is the mechanic intended to balance the pops made them worse. It was locked EP, 2 bar AD, 3 bar DC. Yet our group of 10 was the largest opposition that most of the EP faction had to face at a DC scroll gate, and of course they had so many people they wanted to run 2 scrolls at once.

    yeah. that's the thing. Right now we have the entire map on lock in Azura. and where is DC?, Memorial district that's where. We have the map because we take it and like one person comes to try and stop us. even when the other factions have the population to try and stop us more often then not, they don't.
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  • Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    The salt is strong in this one. The song complety encompassed the feeling I had when fighting that monstrocity glad you liked my suggestion xD
  • Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    Indeed, only red bring 60players stacked up on top of each other. Blue are quite civilized usually and when they decide to camp noble ladder entrance, they only bring 12 and others are immediatly sent back to glenumbra when they fail to cooperate. Same goes for AD, only 12 are allowed to camp EP sewer base at a time and not more. If they fail to comprehend, they are banished from Cyrodiil until the end of the campaign.

    AD and DC never bring any pugs with their guild groups. Pugs usually stand behind the guild group and wait for their turn to engage into any fight. I just can't wait until they make faction changes possible so I can finally join the civilized side.
    Edited by frozywozy on September 30, 2015 8:02PM
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    AD and DC never bring any pugs with their guild groups. Pugs usually stand behind the guild group and wait for their turn to engage into any fight.

    Actually, many AD PUGs are quite happy to sit back and wait for their turn to stand in a breach instead of doing something like...placing siege, healing others, or going through said breach to where there isn't oil being dropped on them.

    So Telel thinks you at least made one correct statement.

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    From a certain point of view.

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  • QuebraRegra
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's late night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    It is just sad that they can not balance the pops. For several hours of the day they can be balanced, but they tilt out of balance far too often for anyone to care about the map anymore. The worst part is the mechanic intended to balance the pops made them worse. It was locked EP, 2 bar AD, 3 bar DC. Yet our group of 10 was the largest opposition that most of the EP faction had to face at a DC scroll gate, and of course they had so many people they wanted to run 2 scrolls at once.

    sooo damn borkd they take two scrolls at once and dance one of them around in the open so the remaining zerg can farm kills on anyone who tries to intercept.

    So what's the workaround you ask? All I see are former DC people I used to play with now showing up in EP and AD. Problem solved... LOL!

    It disgusts me.

  • Minnesinger
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    Normal day in Cyrodiil. I might be subjective but EP has the largest potential to form zergs. Somehow they have gotten everyone join their quest for glory. Well, at times every faction has done the same. Nothing new. Anyways, I don´t get why any EP would get b******t for the obvious fact. it is what it is. Go to AS and expect EP to zerg. There are campaigns with less zergs.
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    Good vid honestly. But seriously, we fight groups of AD/DC that are just as large. So all this about EP being the only one who zergs is just pish-posh.
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    HK being the largest group on AD? Have you even heard of TKO? I can't even right now..
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    I don't understand what all the confusion and analysis is about. EP (NA) physically has the highest player population. Simple as that. It's not ZOS's job to curtail where and what alliance people are playing. Fight outnumbered and take with you however many of the ebonfart fact you can to the grave.

    Or here is a thought. How about the outnumbered alliances join one or two campaigns and even the odds. But then you'll possibly whine about queue.

    Everyone wanted gates access to IC, and that campaign sits very empty all day.

  • PainfulFAFA
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    Zavus wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    HK being the largest group on AD? Have you even heard of TKO? I can't even right now..

    TKO - the equivalent of SOTP but better leaders

    Edit: Except they do what they HAVE to do certain days of the week. SOTP on the other hand...
    Edited by PainfulFAFA on September 30, 2015 9:48PM
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  • manny254
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    Jules wrote: »
    Good vid honestly. But seriously, we fight groups of AD/DC that are just as large. So all this about EP being the only one who zergs is just pish-posh.

    I din't think anyone would debate that. I named this "That is a lot of EP" because that was all we really had to say to each other in TS.

    The ultimate problem is the total pool of players over a average 24 hour period. There really is not much to say other than EP has a much greater total pool of players. This means they have some presence 24/7 on any server they populate. This will eventually result in what is seen in this video. A force of players that grossly outnumbers any defenders. Considering we amounted to a speed bump on that EP force imagine we where not there. This essentially means that they just steamrolled through anything in their path with no concern for what was in front of them. This is not pvp, and it does not create good pvp. All it does is drive players away when hard earned progress on the map is washed away with mindless and effort less play.

    All the faction are guilty of this, but with the total population pools this most frequently happens with EP.
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  • Telel
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    Zavus wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    HK being the largest group on AD? Have you even heard of TKO? I can't even right now..

    No offense but if TKO was on Azura's for more than last night's finale run...some of us sure didn't see them. Or you need better PR.

    In fact to us in COH it often felt like we were the largest organized (I.E Not a PUG) offensive force for AD throughout much of the last cycle. And we usually run five to eight people...

    Well there was also some group that often seemed to take random keeps way off away from everyone else. But as they never communicated with anyone or really seemed to come help us when the methusablob was real Telel and company just assumed they were newer players doing random capture quests.

    In comparison Telel saw a few appearances from HK, and whomever was using the GG invite string. In fact the latter was the primary reason we tended to have any keeps at all.
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    Telel wrote: »
    Zavus wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    HK being the largest group on AD? Have you even heard of TKO? I can't even right now..

    No offense but if TKO was on Azura's for more than last night's finale run...some of us sure didn't see them. Or you need better PR.

    In fact to us in COH it often felt like we were the largest organized (I.E Not a PUG) offensive force for AD throughout much of the last cycle. And we usually run five to eight people...

    Well there was also some group that often seemed to take random keeps way off away from everyone else. But as they never communicated with anyone or really seemed to come help us when the methusablob was real Telel and company just assumed they were newer players doing random capture quests.

    In comparison Telel saw a few appearances from HK, and whomever was using the GG invite string. In fact the latter was the primary reason we tended to have any keeps at all.

    Simple question, were you around when AD and DC tried to capture Ghartok's scroll ?

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    Telel was more referring to the majority of the last campaign cycle where there never seemed to be much of a guild presence from anyone on the AD or DC side.

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  • Publius_Scipio
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    How do so many of you know what guilds are out there and who is part of them? Is there something that goes on in TS? Is there some other website catering to eso guilds?
  • PainfulFAFA
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Telel wrote: »
    Zavus wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Alomar wrote: »
    Love that song, saw and killed just as large zergs of DC and AD in Azura's last night, but I think they were illusions since those don't exist amiright?

    Those weren't "zergs" though. They were "24 man tactical divisions". Only EP zergs.

    Well if yellow brings 24 to a fight you all know red will bring 48 at least. The red Zerg in the video is at least 60 people, the largest group on AD is HK and they will run 24, but you all know red will just get two 24 man groups to trample them anyways xD

    HK being the largest group on AD? Have you even heard of TKO? I can't even right now..

    No offense but if TKO was on Azura's for more than last night's finale run...some of us sure didn't see them. Or you need better PR.

    In fact to us in COH it often felt like we were the largest organized (I.E Not a PUG) offensive force for AD throughout much of the last cycle. And we usually run five to eight people...

    Well there was also some group that often seemed to take random keeps way off away from everyone else. But as they never communicated with anyone or really seemed to come help us when the methusablob was real Telel and company just assumed they were newer players doing random capture quests.

    In comparison Telel saw a few appearances from HK, and whomever was using the GG invite string. In fact the latter was the primary reason we tended to have any keeps at all.

    Simple question, were you around when AD and DC tried to capture Ghartok's scroll ?

    COH was busy defending Roe from blues (lolwtf) and Alessia from reds. By the time COH caught up with scroll they were past Arrius.
    Edited by PainfulFAFA on September 30, 2015 10:23PM
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    Makkir wrote: »

    word is getting annoying as ***. lol
  • JDar
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    How do so many of you know what guilds are out there and who is part of them? Is there something that goes on in TS? Is there some other website catering to eso guilds?

    Well Crown runs a guild for all the leaders and key contacts for all the major guilds in AD, and I'm sure there are things like that for EP and DC too.
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    JDar wrote: »
    Well Crown runs a guild for all the leaders and key contacts for all the major guilds in AD, and I'm sure there are things like that for EP and DC too.

    @JDar If you mean the AD Alliance guild that was disbanded months ago due to lack of cooperation and infighting.
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  •  Jules
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Good vid honestly. But seriously, we fight groups of AD/DC that are just as large. So all this about EP being the only one who zergs is just pish-posh.

    I din't think anyone would debate that. I named this "That is a lot of EP" because that was all we really had to say to each other in TS.

    The ultimate problem is the total pool of players over a average 24 hour period. There really is not much to say other than EP has a much greater total pool of players. This means they have some presence 24/7 on any server they populate. This will eventually result in what is seen in this video. A force of players that grossly outnumbers any defenders. Considering we amounted to a speed bump on that EP force imagine we where not there. This essentially means that they just steamrolled through anything in their path with no concern for what was in front of them. This is not pvp, and it does not create good pvp. All it does is drive players away when hard earned progress on the map is washed away with mindless and effort less play.

    All the faction are guilty of this, but with the total population pools this most frequently happens with EP.

    Your perception of populations is skewed as everyone's is.
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  • xaraan
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    I think they need to add "trampled" to death recap.

    And new hint: everyone re-roll EP so there is no more alliance war.

    Can't beat the zerg, join 'em. We can all be EP!!!
    -- @xaraan --
    nightblade: Xaraan templar: Xaraan-dar dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus necromancer: Xaraan-qa warden: Xaraanodon sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
    AD • NA • PC
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