Bug, Exploit, Lag, or Game Design?

Casdha · September 2015

I've gotten back into PvP a bit since IC has come out and the one thing that I run into that annoys the heck out of me is when my keys don't respond. This only seems to happen when it is against multiple players. What happens is that I get surrounded and nothing works. I'm not blocked, my inputs never even fire off, things such as pots, ultimates, attacks, blocks. It doesn't act like a silence (I use dual wield mostly anyway) but the animation or action never activates when keys are pressed. Sometimes they will fire off after I respawn but not always. It is almost as if someone unplugged my keyboard.

Is this just lag or how the system works? I imagine it could be maybe the system (server) is queuing up inputs and I'm just so swamped with attacks that the system never registers my inputs until it is too late. I understand I am gonna die in this situation but I should at least be able to land a blow and/or a block against someone.

Any help or insight is appreciated.

Edited: for a bit more clarity ( for you computer nuts it make me think that they used FILO instead of FIFO for combat registers)

Amica · September 2015

I have noticed this myself. From what i can tell the bow ability that silences, is bugging out and sometimes lasting 10-45 seconds. No weapon swap, ability use and or anything you can't even crouch sometimes. I'm assuming it's stacking, with the stun from stealth and that is causing the ability to bug out, but not 100% sure. I do however feel your pain in this.

Also biting jabs i think it is on the templar, that puts the target off balance. Really needs a cool down as spamming it you can keep nb's out of stealth almost permanently. with little to no change of escape if stacked with trops, i found it to be a 98% of the time a "I WIN" setup on my templar vs NB's.

Mr_Nobody · September 2015

candoaocrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have noticed this myself. From what i can tell the bow ability that silences, is bugging out and sometimes lasting 10-45 seconds. No weapon swap, ability use and or anything you can't even crouch sometimes. I'm assuming it's stacking, with the stun from stealth and that is causing the ability to bug out, but not 100% sure. I do however feel your pain in this.

Also biting jabs i think it is on the templar, that puts the target off balance. Really needs a cool down as spamming it you can keep nb's out of stealth almost permanently. with little to no change of escape if stacked with trops, i found it to be a 98% of the time a "I WIN" setup on my templar vs NB's.

It doesnt put target off balance, it gives the target free CC immunity for 5 seconds and pushes it away so its easier for him to escape you. While it indeed pops out NBs from stealth due to it dealing damage in a cone, you can do the same with any cone/aoe damaging ability.

FayaSDL · September 2015

With regards to the OP.
Yes, I noticed that aswell.
Movement or abilitie keys not responding even when held down, like moving forward..stopping..working after repressing or dodge rolling then stopping again.
This for sure needs to be looked at imo.

Casdha · September 2015

Could it be some type of animation canceling tied to CC and because of it I'm not seeing the Animation to the CC and also unable to break it? That still wouldn't explain things like pots and ultimates not activating.

Kas · September 2015

bombarb is a pain in the a* when things get crowdy and very hard to actually see. combined with fear, it's crazy. thus, shuffe is becoming even more prominent, lately.

MissBizz · September 2015

Hey @UrQuan we aren't the only ones who noticed this!

I think the best was when I hit my ultimate, the bar made it look used.. no ultimate.. couple seconds.. I'm dead.. respawn in that safe alliance tower in the districts.. take 2 steps.. and BAM. Nova in my face.

...really?

UrQuan · September 2015

Yeah, I've fallen prey to this in Imperial City for sure. Skills not going off when I hit the keys, heavy attacks not happening, potions not working... Not often, but always at the worst possible time, and each time it has happened I've been killed. Not that I'm blaming all my deaths in IC on this, mind you. Most of the times I've died I haven't had this excuse.

QuebraRegra · September 2015

Kas wrote: »

bombarb is a pain in the a* when things get crowdy and very hard to actually see. combined with fear, it's crazy. thus, shuffe is becoming even more prominent, lately.

planning to use that on my next build actually

Casdha · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, I've fallen prey to this in Imperial City for sure. Skills not going off when I hit the keys, heavy attacks not happening, potions not working... Not often, but always at the worst possible time, and each time it has happened I've been killed. Not that I'm blaming all my deaths in IC on this, mind you. Most of the times I've died I haven't had this excuse.

No I don't blame all of my deaths on this by no means either.
I liken it to an old saying I use to use a lot.
"You might get the sandwich but I'm dang sure gonna get a bite of it"
Except in this case it feels like they slapped a muzzle on my face

FriedEggSandwich · September 2015

I've noticed this too and assumed it was my keyboard. It has a detachable cable and sometimes it glitches out. But I've also noticed that it happens more in IC than the rest of cyrodiil, and when there are lots of players around as you say.

Makkir · September 2015

you guys sure its not negate? Negate is making a comeback in IC

Casdha · September 2015

Makkir wrote: »

you guys sure its not negate? Negate is making a comeback in IC

Not sure, but if any skill has the power to stop me from using a pot, a block, an ultimate, a cc break, an interrupt, stops my movement, stops my attacks (dual wield axes), and continues for given amount of time, all on top of a freshly cast Unstoppable, then I have a problem with that skill.

Edit: forgot some stuff.

Aunatar · September 2015

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

candoaocrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have noticed this myself. From what i can tell the bow ability that silences, is bugging out and sometimes lasting 10-45 seconds. No weapon swap, ability use and or anything you can't even crouch sometimes. I'm assuming it's stacking, with the stun from stealth and that is causing the ability to bug out, but not 100% sure. I do however feel your pain in this.

Also biting jabs i think it is on the templar, that puts the target off balance. Really needs a cool down as spamming it you can keep nb's out of stealth almost permanently. with little to no change of escape if stacked with trops, i found it to be a 98% of the time a "I WIN" setup on my templar vs NB's.

It doesnt put target off balance, it gives the target free CC immunity for 5 seconds and pushes it away so its easier for him to escape you. While it indeed pops out NBs from stealth due to it dealing damage in a cone, you can do the same with any cone/aoe damaging ability.

It does put target off-balance; in fact you get the 10% increased dmg from the CP passives

lath · September 2015

I get it as well, especially when using energy overload on my sorc. I hit ulti, then manage to get two light attacks out and then bug out - cannot light attack, cannot use any skills. Annoyingly, it happens when there are large battles around in IC, so it renders me completely useless for a couple of seconds.

UrQuan · September 2015

Makkir wrote: »

you guys sure its not negate? Negate is making a comeback in IC

Negate is an issue for my magicka Templar, but it's one that I'm becoming used to dealing with in IC, and it's a different problem from this. Negate only stops my magicka skills and ultimates - it doesn't stop my heavy attacks etc.