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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wait. Where the hell do you guys get these info thingies?ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)1 -
MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Could someone please link the Q&A summary from ESO Live?PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!1 -
HungryHobo✭✭✭Wasn't it stated previously that they were going to reduce the xp needed to get a VR level? if it is a ladder that scales approximately the same as 1-50 content, I don't see an issue with 2 more levels.
Its like lopping off 20 hrs of play time, and then they are adding 2 back in. We still benefit.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MornaBaine wrote: »Could someone please link the Q&A summary from ESO Live?
I think it's still live - probably won't be a summary unless a player wrote one up. The youtube vid is always late - but you can watch it on twitch like right after the show is done pretty muchLone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭HungryHobo wrote: »Wasn't it stated previously that they were going to reduce the xp needed to get a VR level? if it is a ladder that scales approximately the same as 1-50 content, I don't see an issue with 2 more levels.
Its like lopping off 20 hrs of play time, and then they are adding 2 back in. We still benefit.
If they lop off 15% from each level (150k each) they reduce the total VR14 by 2100k. Then we get two more levels for cap, adding 1700k back to the total. Which, all of this would be, imo, fine (or at least begrudgingly accepted) if:
- It was possible to reach VR14 with current content without grinding
- We were assured that this level increase came with content
If they thought adding levels to their massively unpopular system (that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out) wouldn't have been received well they would have announced it alongside content information. So either they're:
a) So out of touch with their players that they thought increasing VR would have been received well by the majority of players, or
b) Aren't planning on releasing content with itEdited by BBSooner on July 2, 2015 9:47PM3 -
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✭I'm just wondering if we will retroactively be rewarded for our existing XP. Will a VR14 at 1 million XP per VR level automatically become a VR16 when they go to 850,000 XP per level?
Wait, what am I saying? This is ZOS. They NEVER award us anything retroactively.4 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
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When was the last time we heard anyone from ZOS actually state that VR Ranks are still going to be removed? I have not heard anything one way or the other lately, but I don't listen to all the podcasts and don't go to Redditt all that much to read the AuA's. I know they talked about it back before the Champ System was introduced, but since then, have we actually heard anything other people posting that they are going to be removed?
Something tells me they are here to stay, and we are only going to get more of them. But, if the exp needed to get them is being reduced, then its no big deal.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭(that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out)
When was the last time we heard anyone from ZOS actually state that VR Ranks are still going to be removed? I have not heard anything one way or the other lately, but I don't listen to all the podcasts and don't go to Redditt all that much to read the AuA's. I know they talked about it back before the Champ System was introduced, but since then, have we actually heard anything other people posting that they are going to be removed?
Something tells me they are here to stay, and we are only going to get more of them. But, if the exp needed to get them is being reduced, then its no big deal.
It would not surprise me if they were here to stay. A system wide rework is something P2P ESO would enjoy, because the Dev's full focus is on providing content that their players want in order to justify a sub. B2P ESO is more concerned with Cash Shop income, and (eventually) the occasional bit of content to hold their players over while they pump out a green horse and duck slippers (feel free to use that ZOS).1 -
Pheefs✭✭✭✭✭if the overall xp needed to level was lowered and two more levels were added, it shifted the overall progression to change the pacing.
& it kinda sounds like a preparation to convert the whole system to whatever it will be when veteran ranks are removed, to be replaced by ??????{ Forums are Weird........................ Nerfy nerfing nerf nerfers, buff you b'netches!....................... Popcorn popcorn! }0 -
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Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
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Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
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Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When was the last time we heard anyone from ZOS actually state that VR Ranks are still going to be removed?
July 2, 2015 during ESO Live.
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭(that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out)
When was the last time we heard anyone from ZOS actually state that VR Ranks are still going to be removed? I have not heard anything one way or the other lately, but I don't listen to all the podcasts and don't go to Redditt all that much to read the AuA's. I know they talked about it back before the Champ System was introduced, but since then, have we actually heard anything other people posting that they are going to be removed?
Something tells me they are here to stay, and we are only going to get more of them. But, if the exp needed to get them is being reduced, then its no big deal.
It would not surprise me if they were here to stay. A system wide rework is something P2P ESO would enjoy, because the Dev's full focus is on providing content that their players want in order to justify a sub. B2P ESO is more concerned with Cash Shop income, and (eventually) the occasional bit of content to hold their players over while they pump out a green horse and duck slippers (feel free to use that ZOS).
Ding ding!
I just wish they'd rename/convert "Veteran Rank"s to "Levels"What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭HungryHobo wrote: »Wasn't it stated previously that they were going to reduce the xp needed to get a VR level? if it is a ladder that scales approximately the same as 1-50 content, I don't see an issue with 2 more levels.
Its like lopping off 20 hrs of play time, and then they are adding 2 back in. We still benefit.
can you stop bringing your logic to qq threads pleaseEdited by lathbury on July 2, 2015 10:50PM0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭(that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out)
When was the last time we heard anyone from ZOS actually state that VR Ranks are still going to be removed? I have not heard anything one way or the other lately, but I don't listen to all the podcasts and don't go to Redditt all that much to read the AuA's. I know they talked about it back before the Champ System was introduced, but since then, have we actually heard anything other people posting that they are going to be removed?
Something tells me they are here to stay, and we are only going to get more of them. But, if the exp needed to get them is being reduced, then its no big deal.
It's a big deal to those players who spent hours in gathering and using gold mats on VR14 gear on the premise that no more VR ranks were being added to the game because, you know, ZoS has stated their intention of removing them.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »
Its about 50 minutes into this video, but all I really heard is they have some long term goals to remove the VR's. But he could not allude to how, not that I blame him for that really.
http://www.twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/6855053
So, they could still end up being part of the game forever. Or not. I will just keep playing my characters and achieving my goals for them and ignore any future plans that I know nothing about other than something is planned for sometime in the future.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭HungryHobo wrote: »Wasn't it stated previously that they were going to reduce the xp needed to get a VR level? if it is a ladder that scales approximately the same as 1-50 content, I don't see an issue with 2 more levels.
Its like lopping off 20 hrs of play time, and then they are adding 2 back in. We still benefit.
If they lop off 15% from each level (150k each) they reduce the total VR14 by 2100k. Then we get two more levels for cap, adding 1700k back to the total. Which, all of this would be, imo, fine (or at least begrudgingly accepted) if:
- It was possible to reach VR14 with current content without grinding
- We were assured that this level increase came with content
If they thought adding levels to their massively unpopular system (that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out) wouldn't have been received well they would have announced it alongside content information. So either they're:
a) So out of touch with their players that they thought increasing VR would have been received well by the majority of players, or
b) Aren't planning on releasing content with it
your first point is bogus I hit v14 on my characters without grinding an my last one was v14 before doing any craglorn or vet dungeons thanks to eso+ and enlightenment.
as for your second point looking at past trends 2 levels means new content. don't believe me v10-v12 = lower crag v12-v14 upper crag.
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✭Just watch the Twitch video. Eric Wrobel went into quite a bit of detail as to why veteran ranks can't be removed just yet. They are ingrained into ESO in such a way that they cannot be removed until an entirely new system is created to replace it.0 -
Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »Just watch the Twitch video. Eric Wrobel went into quite a bit of detail as to why veteran ranks can't be removed just yet. They are ingrained into ESO in such a way that they cannot be removed until an entirely new system is created to replace it.
But then they say they are still planning on removing them and add two more levels....
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Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭still no logical reason why they need to be removed gg carry on.
Personally I think they are talking BS and have no plan to remove VR at all. They added two more and increased xp gains in game and sell xp scrolls...
They are obviously not removing VR ever and plan on changing the system to sell more crowns...Edited by Troneon on July 2, 2015 11:08PMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything0 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭HungryHobo wrote: »Wasn't it stated previously that they were going to reduce the xp needed to get a VR level? if it is a ladder that scales approximately the same as 1-50 content, I don't see an issue with 2 more levels.
Its like lopping off 20 hrs of play time, and then they are adding 2 back in. We still benefit.
If they lop off 15% from each level (150k each) they reduce the total VR14 by 2100k. Then we get two more levels for cap, adding 1700k back to the total. Which, all of this would be, imo, fine (or at least begrudgingly accepted) if:
- It was possible to reach VR14 with current content without grinding
- We were assured that this level increase came with content
If they thought adding levels to their massively unpopular system (that is supposedly so unpopular that it's still being phased out) wouldn't have been received well they would have announced it alongside content information. So either they're:
a) So out of touch with their players that they thought increasing VR would have been received well by the majority of players, or
b) Aren't planning on releasing content with it
your first point is bogus I hit v14 on my characters without grinding an my last one was v14 before doing any craglorn or vet dungeons thanks to eso+ and enlightenment.
as for your second point looking at past trends 2 levels means new content. don't believe me v10-v12 = lower crag v12-v14 upper crag.
My most recent finished all of lower and upper crag (quests included) by VR 12, was halfway through VR1 by the time I finished MB, skipped no content in either silver/gold, did every delve, dungeon (reg/vr), quest, etc.
As per your guess, I hope we don't get another staggered crag release. I hope it's not the best they can do after all this time is half a zone to go along with yet more development/itemization spent on a system they're (supposedly) removing.0 -
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✭✭✭CirithValaria wrote: »
Well that sure made my day. It appears I am still completely insane.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)1 -
Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »Just watch the Twitch video. Eric Wrobel went into quite a bit of detail as to why veteran ranks can't be removed just yet. They are ingrained into ESO in such a way that they cannot be removed until an entirely new system is created to replace it.
But then they say they are still planning on removing them and add two more levels....
Makes no sense at all...
Really doesn't make any sense. Only been here since console release and I can already see that the devs have absolutely no idea where they are going with this game. Such a shame.PSN: Welsh_Assassin26
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