mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »SoulScream wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I don t care about trolls and spies those are the minority and the exception. You should not limit what people can do. It pisses me off that on evening I can not play AD thornblade on my level 34 because my other toon is already on EP Thornblade
THIS is the kind of restrictions that drive people away. Let me play where I want when I want instead of managing for the exception and annoying 100% of the player base.
WHY have restrictions in the first place? Is having spies SUCH as massive issue? Seriously. Deal with spies in clever ways instead of these stupid gimmicks
You got this the wrong way round. These are the kind of restrictions that keep players in the game, not drive them away.
If anyone could log their lvl10 alt into the same campaign but for opposing faction and troll people with out of place FCs and sieges then PvP would be pretty much ruined. One troll is enough to ruin a defence.
I dunno what guild your part of what friends you have, but every PvP guild I'm part of are thankful for these restrictions, not angry about them.
Anyone can!
The restrictions aren't working to stop people that want to do that and they are preventing a normal player from enjoying their alts. Furthermore the restrictions are causing buff/empty campaigns because there has to be enough campaigns or different faction alts can't be played at all.
This is designed really bad and should have been changed already.
Anyone can what?
Not anyone can get their alts to any campaign or the person I was responding to would not be complaining. People can put troll camps by having a separate account and paying extra money. That's impossible to control, but at least the extra cost is a huge deterrent. If anyone could troll without having to pay any extra money, it would become so common-place PvP would suffer greatly.
And please don't make absurd assumptions. The reason why there are buff campaigns is in the name, buffs. If they didn't have buffs there wouldn't be buff campaigns. Many of the campaigns had healthy populations before large guilds (or guild alliances) started capping them so they could have buffs in PvE and the campaign they actually PvPed in.
The campaigns died because of the buffs and because of ZOS' ineptitude at dealing with the basic problems (like lag, fps drops and crashes) in a timely manner, which lead do a decrease in the PvP population. The travel restrictions most certainly had very little if anything to do with the demise of these campaigns. That's clutching at straws
demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Should probably just play as one alliance.
Rune_Relic wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »I will have to disagree with you in turn.
1. Yes it would be nice for dualists to have a home...(but one does not exist and was never envisioned to exist).
2. Yes it would be nice for PVE to have safe haven in Cyrodiil...(but it is not a safe haven...its RVR central. Areas outside of cyrodiil is your safe haven).
3. Cyrodiil was specific designed for large scale PVP. So to say he must sacrifice that to accommodate you and have large scale PVP compromised as a consequence isn't really an option is it.
Yes I agree pvp dualists need somewhere to go and need a home..but cyrodiil is not that place. Not unless ESO says...."New campaign ---abc is dualing server only." But they wont do that and have specifically said they don't want to do anything to detract from the war with arena style PVP combat.
Removing guest servers and buff servers means people have to fight or do nothing. Choice is yours. You enter cyrodiil to fight a war at the end of the day.
I have to disagree with you. Cyrodiil may have been designed for large scale PvP, but there is a huge amount of PvE in there too. I spent the greater part of the weekend with my two main characters in Cyrodiil doing mostly PvE and throwing myself into PvP if I was close to the action. I chose to do this in a campaign that was less populated rather than go to Thornblade because I figured that I shouldn't take up the spot of someone who does want to PvP in the busiest campaign.
So we went to Chillrend instead, which is dominated by DC (I'm in EP) and we did a quest that literally took us around the entire map and threw in some fishing too, while avoiding enemy players when we didn't want to fight them. We even got the ocean fish, and the ocean spots are right by the AD gates. It was a lot of fun! But if I had gone to Thornblade, I would have taken up a spot.
Now, I agree that campaign buffs should not affect players outside of their home campaign. You get those benefits only in the campaign you are fighting for.
I would love for all the campaigns to be reasonably populated, but not everybody goes to Cyrodiil just to PvP.
No they don't all go to cyrodiil to PVP.
None the less..that is the purpose of it.
Show me any ZOS literature that says cyrodiil is not intended to be the PVP faction vs faction centrepiece.
If you find some I'll retract my comment and apologise.
Hence any one elses claims on the pros and cons of cyrodiil comes secondary to whats best for the PVP war.
mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »
You got this the wrong way round. These are the kind of restrictions that keep players in the game, not drive them away.
If anyone could log their lvl10 alt into the same campaign but for opposing faction and troll people with out of place FCs and sieges then PvP would be pretty much ruined. One troll is enough to ruin a defence.
I dunno what guild your part of what friends you have, but every PvP guild I'm part of are thankful for these restrictions, not angry about them.
Joy_Division wrote: »
You are wrong about the difficulty in getting into a non home/guest campaign. You do not need to make a separate account or pay more money to hop in a campaign that is not your home or guest. You don't even need to have friends in the opposing faction; across-faction guild (such as one devoted to trading) will do.
And just to emphasize, this is NOT a bad thing. It is an MMO, Zenimax has stated numerous times that they wanted to make it possible to play with your friends. See here, for example: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/125176/alliance-war-future-plans-and-update/p1
@izazael Only way to see is to try, but I would assume so.@driosketch That is an awesome bug. But will I earn AP? It would be nice to at least be able to buy siege weapons...