Bahalul wrote: »

Wait EU server lags too?

B...b...but Havoc only plays on NA server?!

Maybe they have distant cousins in Europe. I don´t know you tell me. Seriously, unintended or not the scroll can be taken due to the lag. Something this game is making wrong when there is a way to abuse so easily.

Teargrants wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

See all those banners placed? There are no enemies in that spot. No reason to drop them all there, except to create so much lag that all abilities stop working, then you can just pick up the scroll and walk away with it, completely ignoring all defenders. That, in my book, is an exploit.

It's one thing to have natural lag occur during big battles that just happens and you can't prevent, but a completely different thing to intentionally create it. You who do this should be ashamed.

OP, you're just spouting a load of BS. Those standards are from 1 person trying to drop his 1 standard over and over again. But because the server is already lagged out, his ult does not get depleted and the banner animation keeps playing even though none of those banners are real. Eventually the server catches up and depletes his ult - that is the point that the real banner casts. This is by no means some obscure knowledge, anyone who's been in a lagged out keep since 1.6 and tried to drop ultis knows this is how it works.

Stop speaking sense!

Sharee wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Same thing happens with meteor and soul tether, and with almost all ultimates too be honest.

I am aware that spamming meteors also has the same effect. But with a meteor, the person spamming it at least has the excuse of "I'm trying to damage the enemy". Spamming a standard over and over in a place with no enemies in range has no purpose except to lag out the server.

I am not condemning the use of ultimates, i am condemning the intent behind it.

The intent of this is not to lag out the server as this only happens ONCE the server is already lagged out.

Renaissance wrote: »

LOL , that was my shifting standart , btw lag was caused by meteor spam from deffenders. In our raid meteor ult prohibited.
And abraxus can confirm that there was no lags when we fought in keeps cause both side didn't use meteor.
GL nobrainers.

Bet you was the smart one at school!

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

All of those standards aren't really there. This is the same story every single lag battle.

A bunch of players get together. Lag starts. People on both sides of the fight start trying to use skills. People realize there is lag. People start pressing their keys faster. People are trying to cast ultimates. On both sides. Over and over again. To some, those ultimates may be casting visually,, but there is so much lag, the player casting doesn't see and continues to spam his ultimate he hasn't seen drop yet. It's nobody's fault but the server's.

At least DK's can drop their standards (albeit visually only) during lag. Ever tried to drop a nova during lag? Impossible. Doesn't even play an animation. Prolly for the best though... so many particle effects, server would probably explode.

What it really is, is the DK used his ultimate during lag, he didnt see the standard drop down and the damage of it wasnt showing up. So whats the best thing? spam it, because we already know it will make like 50 standards, its the same thing with meteor. and spamming ultimates like that is one of the biggest factors into lag, they lag the server more than a zerg does.

If you ever see people in a lag fight spamming meteor, nova, standard, etc. yell at them to stop, because they are only making it worse (and i bet they'll be saying "omg ___ group lagged the server!!!").

I tested it once, there was an EP group grabbing a scroll from the temple, there was a bit of lag (about 300 ping or so) So i casted meteor and did it a few times. once I and another person started casting meteor over and over the ping shot up to over 1000.

We can't rely only on ZoS only to fix the lag, we need to do our part as well.

The picture the OP provides offers no proof of an exploit. It could have been a shot of the aftermath of a decent size battle that resulted in many reds dropping their banners (Dragonknights of course) to defeat the enemy and the enemy having just respawned at the transit shrines. All we have to go on is the OP's word that it wasn't. Why not provide video of them dropping their banners with no one around to prove his point? Please show tangible evidence of wrong doing instead of after the fact of a supposed loss.

Bouvin wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

See all those banners placed? There are no enemies in that spot. No reason to drop them all there, except to create so much lag that all abilities stop working, then you can just pick up the scroll and walk away with it, completely ignoring all defenders. That, in my book, is an exploit.

It's one thing to have natural lag occur during big battles that just happens and you can't prevent, but a completely different thing to intentionally create it. You who do this should be ashamed.

This is the fault of bad code by ZoS. Not the player.

He's just trying to use a skill and it's not actually going off but the animation is.

Not all of those banners are doing damage.. actually NONE of them are doing damage in that situation.

The lag keeps getting worse patch after patch.. maybe people should start pointing the finger at the one entity that CAN FIX IT. ZoS.

Correctly ))) But nobrainers can't see void around only one of them ))) All others just to fear nobrainers. )))

Methuselah wrote: »

While it is ZOS's fault, the players are not helping. We clearly, can NOT police ourselves. This has shown to be true everyday.

AD spam Standarts ... lol

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Some ulti's can be dropped multiple times in lag and still do damage though. I've tested a few on EP.

Yeah, those are Meteor (Ice Comet) and Dawnbreaker for example. More of that, as soon I here sound of Meteor falling down, I prepare myself for a lagspike. And it's always true if it's not a random 1 vs 1 but even some 10 vs 10 or 5 vs 5 vs 5 group PvP. And I really hate both: ZOS for still not fixing how Ice Comet works and players who still useing it even knowing it's maybe not the main but really the biggest reason of lags.

Methuselah wrote: »

While it is ZOS's fault, the players are not helping. We clearly, can NOT police ourselves. This has shown to be true everyday.

o wow look at that picture, it must have been done to intentionally create lag!! /s