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Remove aoe from PvP
jelliedsoup
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Encourages zerg
increases lag
nuff said.
Edited by jelliedsoup on April 30, 2015 5:00AM increases lag
nuff said.
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There shouldn't really be any skills in pvp. You should get heavy attacks and light attacks.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Dru1076✭✭✭✭I am fairly certain if it was as simple as that to fix Cyrodil, they would have done that a lot time ago.Ask not what your sweetroll can do for you....0 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭Or just lower the population cap to whatever the server can handle without lagging... and then add more campaigns to spread people out.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.4 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hit zerg with AoE.
Zerg discouraged.
Lag reduced.
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Lionxoft✭✭✭✭✭
✭MisterBigglesworth wrote: »Or just lower the population cap to whatever the server can handle without lagging... and then add more campaigns to spread people out.
That would be 4 people
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MisterBigglesworth wrote: »Or just lower the population cap to whatever the server can handle without lagging... and then add more campaigns to spread people out.
Then that would be 5vs5vs5
Seriously though...
I won't be surprised if with these 15 players dueling, Cyrodiil will still LAG because of grouping.Siblings-in-Prison
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Amisdt the events surrounding the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a brave few has escaped their captors and ran off as far away as they can, eventually landing on the shores of khenarthi's roost.
Armed with the skills and the scars they have endured during their captivity, these brothers and sisters in chains has vowed revenge on their Argonian captors and their allies.
They kept the names branded to them by the evil reptiles as a reminder of all the pain and torment they have suffered, and have joined the Aldmeri Dominion as a means to an end... Paint Tamriel with Argonian blood.
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No one would care if it didn't lag out the server.Daggerfall Covenant
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nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sallington wrote: »
"...lag out the server." Do you mean an overload to the GPU or lag across the entirety of Cyrodiil? I think I've spent a total of eight (8) collective hours in PVP, most of which in zergs or large-scale keep defense events, and never experienced the supposed God-awful lag people complain about. Has there been a more specific cause to this "lag?"0 -
Warraxx✭✭✭✭✭Remove AOE?
What's AOEbarbeque gonna do? change his name to SingleTargetBarbeque; doesn't have the same ring...3 -
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Have you ever been in the vicinity of one of the dreaded lag zergs? These are zergs full of people intentionally spamming AOEs to cause (and the exploit) lag. Or at least, that's what I keep hearing about on these forums. I don't PVP, so I've never encountered this myself.Sallington wrote: »
"...lag out the server." Do you mean an overload to the GPU or lag across the entirety of Cyrodiil? I think I've spent a total of eight (8) collective hours in PVP, most of which in zergs or large-scale keep defense events, and never experienced the supposed God-awful lag people complain about. Has there been a more specific cause to this "lag?"
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nastuug✭✭✭✭✭
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Have you ever been in the vicinity of one of the dreaded lag zergs? These are zergs full of people intentionally spamming AOEs to cause (and the exploit) lag. Or at least, that's what I keep hearing about on these forums. I don't PVP, so I've never encountered this myself.Sallington wrote: »
"...lag out the server." Do you mean an overload to the GPU or lag across the entirety of Cyrodiil? I think I've spent a total of eight (8) collective hours in PVP, most of which in zergs or large-scale keep defense events, and never experienced the supposed God-awful lag people complain about. Has there been a more specific cause to this "lag?"
No I haven't. But I have been in the middle of a ~80 player battle, AOEs going off everywhere, and never experienced the "lag" people talk about here.0 -
AriBoh✭✭✭✭✭Lol.khele23eb17
Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.
ZOS_AmeliaR admin
Ultimately, any method of entering an enemy keep without breaking down the door is considered an exploit. Thanks for checking!
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Ace_SiN✭✭✭✭Remove factions. Allow players to build their own keeps. Expand the PvP map. have players fighting over vital resources, spread throughout the larger map, to maintain their keeps, create gear, siege weapons, etc. You know, sandbox stuff.
/wakes up from dream.Edited by Ace_SiN on April 30, 2015 9:19PMKing of Beasts1 -
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Have you ever been in the vicinity of one of the dreaded lag zergs? These are zergs full of people intentionally spamming AOEs to cause (and the exploit) lag. Or at least, that's what I keep hearing about on these forums. I don't PVP, so I've never encountered this myself.Sallington wrote: »
"...lag out the server." Do you mean an overload to the GPU or lag across the entirety of Cyrodiil? I think I've spent a total of eight (8) collective hours in PVP, most of which in zergs or large-scale keep defense events, and never experienced the supposed God-awful lag people complain about. Has there been a more specific cause to this "lag?"
No I haven't. But I have been in the middle of a ~80 player battle, AOEs going off everywhere, and never experienced the "lag" people talk about here.
You seem to be one of the few. It would be nice to round up those who are seemingly unaffected by this and get specifics and system specs, location to server, internet connection, add-ons etc...
Maybe that would help narrow down why some people experience this lag.PC NA
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✭rajaniemiorama_ESO wrote: »
Have you ever been in the vicinity of one of the dreaded lag zergs? These are zergs full of people intentionally spamming AOEs to cause (and the exploit) lag. Or at least, that's what I keep hearing about on these forums. I don't PVP, so I've never encountered this myself.Sallington wrote: »
"...lag out the server." Do you mean an overload to the GPU or lag across the entirety of Cyrodiil? I think I've spent a total of eight (8) collective hours in PVP, most of which in zergs or large-scale keep defense events, and never experienced the supposed God-awful lag people complain about. Has there been a more specific cause to this "lag?"
No I haven't. But I have been in the middle of a ~80 player battle, AOEs going off everywhere, and never experienced the "lag" people talk about here.
You seem to be one of the few. It would be nice to round up those who are seemingly unaffected by this and get specifics and system specs, location to server, internet connection, add-ons etc...
Maybe that would help narrow down why some people experience this lag.
i7 3770k @ 4 GHz
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Could be a bottleneck if all hardware isn't lining up, or perhaps in the network. Not sure what else to say other than I've not seen anything like what others have reported here on the forums.Edited by nastuug on April 30, 2015 10:34PM0 -
glak✭✭✭There's GPU/fps lag and then there's latency. We're talking about latency caused by AoE calculations requiring more network chatter thus causing more lag. The latency causes a self-feeding loop of lag.0 -
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✭There's GPU/fps lag and then there's latency. We're talking about latency caused by AoE calculations requiring more network chatter thus causing more lag. The latency causes a self-feeding loop of lag.
Which could be possibly enhanced by a low/bogged down network from client to server?0 -
grimsfield✭✭✭ebethke_ESO wrote: »Man do I miss the lol button.
Marvel Heroes' forum has the "disagree" button... Just sayin....0 -
desciviib14_ESO✭✭✭Remove AOE?
What's AOEbarbeque gonna do? change his name to SingleTargetBarbeque; doesn't have the same ring...
lol It took me like an hour to get that sucker but I got an avenge with 5,6 names attached.
On topic; I don't know....it feels like a cheap fix but I don't have a suggestion short of what is probably really, actually needed.There is nothing here of interest to any nations; as a matter of fact, there is nothing here but people.0 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭They just need to disable the abilities that cause the worst of the lag until they are fixed....1
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✭Want to discourage Zerg? Give players access to reliable ranged AoE options that aren't DoT. If people in a Zerg can be taken out by a few people on the outside, it would encourage people to spread out more.1 -
glak✭✭✭
Essentially yes. They would crap a gold brick if they actually emulated such a network for debugging purposes. It's just easier to drive blind:There's GPU/fps lag and then there's latency. We're talking about latency caused by AoE calculations requiring more network chatter thus causing more lag. The latency causes a self-feeding loop of lag.
Which could be possibly enhanced by a low/bogged down network from client to server?
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