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Patriotism
Calrid
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We, the People, recognize that we have responsibilities as well as rights; that our destinies are bound together; that a freedom which only asks what's in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity or duty or patriotism, is unworthy of our founding ideals, and those who died in their defense.
Barack Obama
Kinda apposite, whether you think the Merkins are evil or not in an MMO.
let me get to a point at least, before the trolls rush in like gibbering simpletons, correcting grammar, and debating semantics without actually saying anything.
For the first time since launch I can actually say kudos to Zenimax et al, kudos to the devs and of course Kudos to all the players, as importantly who worked hard to make this game finally work.
If however I may add one caveat, people who complain, deride are the most often are the biggest patriots and the most interested in keeping the game goingl but, one must remember we must keep vigilant against the min maxers who seek to make the game all about them, not of course those who min maxers who don't. The selfish people who seek to degrade community, the people who seek to destroy our fun, are ignoble and we must seek to chastise and stop them.
We must of course help all new players, be considerate and kind, no matter how newb the question. If you build it they will come.
If I can finally get to a point though, what are you doing to make a community, and if so here is your platform, do feel free to wax on like The Karate kid on steroids crack and PCP, what are you not doing, what are the people who are just in it for themselves not doing, if indeed there are any.
Barack Obama
Kinda apposite, whether you think the Merkins are evil or not in an MMO.
let me get to a point at least, before the trolls rush in like gibbering simpletons, correcting grammar, and debating semantics without actually saying anything.
For the first time since launch I can actually say kudos to Zenimax et al, kudos to the devs and of course Kudos to all the players, as importantly who worked hard to make this game finally work.
If however I may add one caveat, people who complain, deride are the most often are the biggest patriots and the most interested in keeping the game goingl but, one must remember we must keep vigilant against the min maxers who seek to make the game all about them, not of course those who min maxers who don't. The selfish people who seek to degrade community, the people who seek to destroy our fun, are ignoble and we must seek to chastise and stop them.
We must of course help all new players, be considerate and kind, no matter how newb the question. If you build it they will come.
If I can finally get to a point though, what are you doing to make a community, and if so here is your platform, do feel free to wax on like The Karate kid on steroids crack and PCP, what are you not doing, what are the people who are just in it for themselves not doing, if indeed there are any.
WTS a rare racial motif for a price that reflects it's value, you're probably the only one without an obsession for useless cosmetic crap. Who needs style anyway when you already have it?
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Calrid✭✭✭Incidentally every single grammar error I could of corrected, every single odd use of my native tongue that I could of said better I chose not to correct. Just FYI.WTS a rare racial motif for a price that reflects it's value, you're probably the only one without an obsession for useless cosmetic crap. Who needs style anyway when you already have it?2
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✭I can somewhat agree with the semantics of what you're saying but you sure do have an interesting way of getting to that point.
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golfer.dub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Off-topic, why the constant hate for min-maxxing?
Isn't that the entire point of an RPG to begin with? Name one respected RPG that doesn't have tons of math involved, tons of items that give percentage bonuses to specific stats, so on.
Whenever people parody or satirize RPG's, they always say things like "Battleaxe of +10 Promiscuity". The math part of RPG's has become a meme of its own, it's what defines the entire genre. So why hate the act of actually computing the math?
Why hate min-maxxers? Do you not realize their complaints make the game more balanced, thus more enjoyable, for you as a player? I would love it if Zenimax actually listened to the min-maxers, but they don't, thus we have a game where everyone only ever picks a small handful of the ten races available, a game where certain skills and items are woefully underpowered compared to others.
On-topic, just like his last thread I can not tell what point, if any, the OP was trying to make.Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on April 8, 2015 5:54AM0 -
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Requiemslove✭✭✭What am I doing?
Contemplating watching LOTR The two towers while I wait for the ridiculously slow ESO client to preamble along.
After, I might go into the game.
Only problem is I still cant get over the fact they made it B2P after saying at launch this would always be a subscription based game. I feel cheated out of my 6 month subscription yet also kind of glad I stopped for the second time [the first stop was not by choice when I was 4 days overdue] back in November.0 -
Zhoyzu✭✭✭✭✭patriotism is laughable. How many people chose where they were going to be born?
O right no one.
same goes for gender,ethnicity, social standing (until independent) and everything else.
People = people no matter how you look at it.Zhoyzu - Nightblade Alchemist (v15) RETIRED
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pugyourself✭✭✭✭We, the People, recognize that we have responsibilities as well as rights; that our destinies are bound together; that a freedom which only asks what's in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity or duty or patriotism, is unworthy of our founding ideals, and those who died in their defense.
Barack Obama
Kinda apposite, whether you think the Merkins are evil or not in an MMO.
let me get to a point at least, before the trolls rush in like gibbering simpletons, correcting grammar, and debating semantics without actually saying anything.
For the first time since launch I can actually say kudos to Zenimax et al, kudos to the devs and of course Kudos to all the players, as importantly who worked hard to make this game finally work.
If however I may add one caveat, people who complain, deride are the most often are the biggest patriots and the most interested in keeping the game goingl but, one must remember we must keep vigilant against the min maxers who seek to make the game all about them, not of course those who min maxers who don't. The selfish people who seek to degrade community, the people who seek to destroy our fun, are ignoble and we must seek to chastise and stop them.
We must of course help all new players, be considerate and kind, no matter how newb the question. If you build it they will come.
If I can finally get to a point though, what are you doing to make a community, and if so here is your platform, do feel free to wax on like The Karate kid on steroids crack and PCP, what are you not doing, what are the people who are just in it for themselves not doing, if indeed there are any.
I can't decipher the Barack Obama part. I know what a patriot is though. Would you be able to make the same analogy with a George Bush (43) quote so that I may compare the two and decipher your intent?0 -
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Er, for many people, not at all.golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »Off-topic, why the constant hate for min-maxxing?
Isn't that the entire point of an RPG to begin with?.
Min/maxing is fine in the privacy of your own off-line RPG, but it frequently becomes toxic when applied in an MMO .. that's where 'come as class X with spec Y or GTFO' attitudes come from.
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Er, for many people, not at all.golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »Off-topic, why the constant hate for min-maxxing?
Isn't that the entire point of an RPG to begin with?.
Min/maxing is fine in the privacy of your own off-line RPG, but it frequently becomes toxic when applied in an MMO .. that's where 'come as class X with spec Y or GTFO' attitudes come from.
@Calrid, I really don't think patriot means what you think it does, seriously, your OP has nothing to do with patriotism. If it says anything it seems an invective against trolls in the most general sense, which is a reasonable subject for a sermon, but the 'P' word seems entirely unconnected.
That of course assumes toy recognise them. That may be an ironic comment I accept ... OTOH ...I could of corrected
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We do not allow discussions of Real-world politics, as this is considered inappropriate for an official game forum such as ours. Additionally, we ask that all threads on the forums have a clear discussion topic related to ESO as per our forum Code of Conduct. As such, we are closing this thread. Thank you for your understanding.Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on April 8, 2015 12:43PM0
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