The Last Radiant Destruction Thread
Goldie
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At first I was surprised that after 10 or so hours of update 6 being live we had yet to see a forum post about Radiant Destruction. Now, I can feel it in my bones, that hundreds of new threads, all asking for this ability to be nerfed and crying about how OP it may or may not be, are about to fill the entire forum.
In this instance, now that a handful of threads have been started, I feel the need to say a few words and voice my own concerns...
1. The LOS of this ability IS completely broken, I will say that. Targeting an enemy and blasting away, the enemy breaks line of sight-> Never breaks beam or stops damage...
2. Want to get away or close the gap? Try Force Pulse or a similar skill! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
3. The fact that this ability has the potential to do devastating damage does NOT make it OP. Look at 'Snipe', even though it isn't channeled it still causes a metric crap ton of devastating damage, several other abilities are the same way!
4. Radiant Destruction does have several counters! Get out there and experiment! Find ways to nullify this ability and shove it up a Templars nose! (It CAN be done!)
Lastly, we know... We all know how much some of you are hating this ability, but we were all able to adapt to Focused Aim and Snipe arrow spam.
So before all of you flood the forum with your rants of rage and tears of torment, JUST SAVE IT!
Rethink your strategy and adapt. Find the niche that fits your own play style and own that ****!!!
Edited by Goldie on March 6, 2015 2:13AM In this instance, now that a handful of threads have been started, I feel the need to say a few words and voice my own concerns...
1. The LOS of this ability IS completely broken, I will say that. Targeting an enemy and blasting away, the enemy breaks line of sight-> Never breaks beam or stops damage...
2. Want to get away or close the gap? Try Force Pulse or a similar skill! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
3. The fact that this ability has the potential to do devastating damage does NOT make it OP. Look at 'Snipe', even though it isn't channeled it still causes a metric crap ton of devastating damage, several other abilities are the same way!
4. Radiant Destruction does have several counters! Get out there and experiment! Find ways to nullify this ability and shove it up a Templars nose! (It CAN be done!)
Lastly, we know... We all know how much some of you are hating this ability, but we were all able to adapt to Focused Aim and Snipe arrow spam.
So before all of you flood the forum with your rants of rage and tears of torment, JUST SAVE IT!
Rethink your strategy and adapt. Find the niche that fits your own play style and own that ****!!!
"Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves" - M'aiq the Liar
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Fatalyis✭✭✭✭It popped up in my death recap quite a bit, but I knew it was because it's a new ability and people are spamming it like crazy. I do take issue with the fact that I can't use Dark Cloak to break it, or LOS. There are counters to it.
That being said, I do feel it's going to be getting fixed very soon.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi folks,
As promised, we have an update on Radiant Destruction. We've confirmed that there is not a damage-stacking bug with the ability, but there is a bug that is allowing Radiant Destruction to deal full execute damage on a target much earlier than is intended. We're testing a fix now, and hope to have it in the next incremental patch.
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✭✭✭✭the Skill is OP
However, As a Sorc, i have yet to be killed by it, but my shield stack is a lot and pretty much protects me from this skill making it useless to use it on me. However, i could see certain DK, NB and such builds, tanks in particular being very vulnerable to this skill. Considering their are bugged traits allowing 100% ignore of spell resist, its just not a good mix, and keeping shields up is integral to my survival, it just happens to be a very good counter to RD as well.
Just because a skill has counters doesn't mean its not OP. Snipe was OP, its why it was slightly nerfed in 1.6 because it was too good.
Furthermore, you can't LOS RD which is absolute BS period, if it wasn't for me speccing into high value stack damage shields, I would be getting melted like everyone else because not only does it do a lot of damage and start at 50%, but it can't even be LOS like every other range and channell.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
Juste Gandolphi Dark Elf Templar Daggerfall Covenant
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Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
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Everything is Normal lolWilliam Reignes
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jopeymonster✭✭✭Sorcs spamming Bolt. NBs chaining Ambush. DKs stacking Talons. Now Templars have an ability to join the crew.
Welcome to Update 6.
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Everything is Normal lol
If Snipe had bright glowy lines in 1.5, it would eclipse the sun with its brightness. Just sayin'.
Anyway the damage modifier is getting toned down soon. Personally I never use it unless the target is sub-25% anyway when you are basically dead no matter what, so the change won't matter much to me, but it should please the masses.
The only other thing I think could use a tweak would be the range. 28m (35+ in Cyro) is very far. But then again I feel the same for Lethal Arrow2 -
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✭✭✭✭Really? More ppl defending Jebus Beam and telling everyone to L2P? As already posted in this thread, but since some of you seem to have selective vision perhaps you will see it this time:
The extreme high dmg output ppl are complaining about is a bug. The full execute dmg is procing much higher than the intended 30% that it was changed to in 1.6.4.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi folks,
As promised, we have an update on Radiant Destruction. We've confirmed that there is not a damage-stacking bug with the ability, but there is a bug that is allowing Radiant Destruction to deal full execute damage on a target much earlier than is intended. We're testing a fix now, and hope to have it in the next incremental patch.
Bruh, what? Do you understand how channeled beams work in this game? You cannot dodge roll out of it, you continue to take full dmg. Please don't try and tell me you've never been soul assaulted.2. Want to get away? Try a Roll Dodge! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...Edited by Teargrants on March 5, 2015 7:33PMPOST EQVITEM SEDET ATRA CVRA
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Kypho✭✭✭✭At first I was surprised that after 10 or so hours of update 6 being live we had yet to see a forum post about Radiant Destruction. Now, I can feel it in my bones, that hundreds of new threads, all asking for this ability to be nerfed and crying about how OP it may or may not be, are about to fill the entire forum.
In this instance, now that a handful of threads have been started, I feel the need to say a few words and voice my own concerns...
1. The LOS of this ability IS completely broken, I will say that. Targeting an enemy and blasting away, the enemy breaks line of sight-> Never breaks beam or stops damage...
2. Want to get away? Try a Roll Dodge! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
3. The fact that this ability has the potential to do devastating damage does NOT make it OP. Look at 'Snipe', even though it isn't channeled it still causes a metric crap ton of devastating damage, several other abilities are the same way!
4. Radiant Destruction does have several counters! Get out there and experiment! Find ways to nullify this ability and shove it up a Templars nose! (It CAN be done!)
Lastly, we know... We all know how much some of you are hating this ability, but we were all able to adapt to Focused Aim and Snipe arrow spam.
So before all of you flood the forum with your rants of rage and tears of torment, JUST SAVE IT!
Rethink your strategy and adapt. Find the niche that fits your own play style and own that ****!!!
Sure Oplar
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✭Teargrants wrote: »Really? More ppl defending Jebus Beam and telling everyone to L2P? As already posted in this thread, but since some of you seem to have selective vision perhaps you will see it this time:
The extreme high dmg output ppl are complaining about is a bug. The full execute dmg is procing much higher than the intended 30% that it was changed to in 1.6.4.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi folks,
As promised, we have an update on Radiant Destruction. We've confirmed that there is not a damage-stacking bug with the ability, but there is a bug that is allowing Radiant Destruction to deal full execute damage on a target much earlier than is intended. We're testing a fix now, and hope to have it in the next incremental patch.
Bruh, what? Do you understand how channeled beams work in this game? You cannot dodge roll out of it, you continue to take full dmg. Please don't try and tell me you've never been soul assaulted.2. Want to get away? Try a Roll Dodge! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
Buddy, no one is defending the bug. They are defending people calling it OP for other reasons. L2Read issue I think. We all are fully aware of Jessica's post and you'll see no one defending it. You will see people defending its damage in terms of dps in low health cases as many have posted screenshots about, or other mechanics. The damage capability of the skill is being called OP, its not... regardless of where it triggers the actual damage is fine. Once they fix the time in which it kicks in it'll be fine, but many of the complaints in these threads about it being OP won't change because its not the bug causing that (and thus some of us are trying to address it).0 -
NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭Teargrants wrote: »Really? More ppl defending Jebus Beam and telling everyone to L2P? As already posted in this thread, but since some of you seem to have selective vision perhaps you will see it this time:
The extreme high dmg output ppl are complaining about is a bug. The full execute dmg is procing much higher than the intended 30% that it was changed to in 1.6.4.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi folks,
As promised, we have an update on Radiant Destruction. We've confirmed that there is not a damage-stacking bug with the ability, but there is a bug that is allowing Radiant Destruction to deal full execute damage on a target much earlier than is intended. We're testing a fix now, and hope to have it in the next incremental patch.
Bruh, what? Do you understand how channeled beams work in this game? You cannot dodge roll out of it, you continue to take full dmg. Please don't try and tell me you've never been soul assaulted.2. Want to get away? Try a Roll Dodge! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
While on my NB I dodge rolled away from RD, dropped cloak and was way out of range and it still burned me down. It didn't break until I was dead. Yes, I need to work on countering it but a few of the methods stated to break it don't work at the moment. I guess I can counter snipe it and hope I can stun the caster before turning to ashes. Probably should just ambush and bash.
L2P is a factor along with NWAI."it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor0 -
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✭TL;DR version
1. Goldie is a Templar
2. He doesn't want his new found OP Templar skill to be nerfed
3. So he drops the L2P bomb in the thread
P.S. Radiant Destruction threads are funnier than snipe, impulse and flappy flap threads put together.Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...4 -
Goldie✭✭✭✭✭TL;DR version
1. Goldie is a Templar
2. He doesn't want his new found OP Templar skill to be nerfed
3. So he drops the L2P bomb in the thread
P.S. Radiant Destruction threads are funnier than snipe, impulse and flappy flap threads put together.
1. I am an Imperial Templar stamina build
2. Stamina and Radiant Destruction don't really jive that well do they
3. Nice try tho
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Goldie✭✭✭✭✭NukeAllTheThings wrote: »Teargrants wrote: »Really? More ppl defending Jebus Beam and telling everyone to L2P? As already posted in this thread, but since some of you seem to have selective vision perhaps you will see it this time:
The extreme high dmg output ppl are complaining about is a bug. The full execute dmg is procing much higher than the intended 30% that it was changed to in 1.6.4.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi folks,
As promised, we have an update on Radiant Destruction. We've confirmed that there is not a damage-stacking bug with the ability, but there is a bug that is allowing Radiant Destruction to deal full execute damage on a target much earlier than is intended. We're testing a fix now, and hope to have it in the next incremental patch.
Bruh, what? Do you understand how channeled beams work in this game? You cannot dodge roll out of it, you continue to take full dmg. Please don't try and tell me you've never been soul assaulted.2. Want to get away? Try a Roll Dodge! This ability eats a ton of Magicka, just saying...
While on my NB I dodge rolled away from RD, dropped cloak and was way out of range and it still burned me down. It didn't break until I was dead. Yes, I need to work on countering it but a few of the methods stated to break it don't work at the moment. I guess I can counter snipe it and hope I can stun the caster before turning to ashes. Probably should just ambush and bash.
L2P is a factor along with NWAI.
Force Pulse from the Destro Staff seems to work wonders on stunning and then allowing you to close the gap. By the time you get to the Templar in question its 0 Magicka and Burn 'em Down!
@Teargrants yes you are right about the roll dodge, I amended to reflect my original intention to get people thinking about ways to combat the ability.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on March 6, 2015 3:20PM"Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves" - M'aiq the Liar0 -
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✭✭✭✭They need to fix the LOS issue, I have yet to see it in my kill log, but it should be LOS like any other ranged attack.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
Juste Gandolphi Dark Elf Templar Daggerfall Covenant
Richter Gandolphi - Dark Elf Dragonknight Daggerfall Covenant
Mathias Gandolphi - Breton Nightblade Daggerfall Covenant
RinaldoGandolphi - High Elf Sorcerer Aldmeri Dominion
Officer Fire and Ice
Co-GM - MVP
Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak0 -
Tripwyr✭✭✭✭✭They need to fix the LOS issue, I have yet to see it in my kill log, but it should be LOS like any other ranged attack.
The way it currently works is not only the same as every other channelled ranged attack, but also the same as channelled ranged attacks in every other video game.
Please stop complaining about LoS, it is not the issue.Alacrity Founder | Forum Emperor
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I'm not crying. I don't care about it really. Just thought it was funny this is what my screen looked like all nightWilliam Reignes
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✭✭They need to fix the LOS issue, I have yet to see it in my kill log, but it should be LOS like any other ranged attack.
The way it currently works is not only the same as every other channelled ranged attack, but also the same as channelled ranged attacks in every other video game.
Please stop complaining about LoS, it is not the issue.
Seriously. This has to be the 5th time the correct response has been posted in this thread. Every channel goes through LOS during the cast, as does every spell/skill that has already been casted and is traveling.0 -
ZOS_UlyssesW✭✭✭Greetings, everyone.
In an effort to consolidate discussions on the same topic, we're closing this thread, as a larger thread about this topic already exists. We're interested in your feedback and to easily gather it, please head there to post. Thanks for your understanding.0
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