Yes, I'm leaving, too. No, I'm not a whiner.

Ahdora · January 2015

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Here's why.

It's not about people being able to play the game for free. I have no issue with that, so long as a true paid subscription is still available. I have no issue with a cash shop that offers appearance/vanity only items.

Here are my concerns:

The cash shop already has what they call "convenience" items. Like pots. You can bet those will be superior to the crafted ones. Sorry, alchemists.
The paid version offers significant advantages to subscribers. You might say "well, then subscribe." Obviously I have no problem with that, I've been subbed since launch. This kind of significant advantage, however, creates a rift in the community. Community is one of the most important things to me in an MMO. I can only see it degrading with this model, and I want no part of that.
Again with community: dismiss it all you want, but I've been in a lot of F2P/B2P MMOs, and the kind of crowd drawn there is... less than ideal. i don't know if it's because the game is free and therefore they don't care if they get banned, or if attracts a lot of immature kids whose parents refuse to pay a sub, or what... but it's something I've seen too many times for me to dismiss it.
The way they've already set up the system leads to believe it will only degrade from here, with more and more advantageous systems being offered behind a paywall.
It follows that content will now be more rushed and therefore less lackluster, due to a desire to get more money from paid DLC. Overall quality of the game will likely drop.

Now, my LARGER concern, and the reason I went ahead and canceled my sub, rather than just waiting around to see how this will play out:

I no longer have any faith in ZOS as a company.

It truly pains me to say that. I've been one of the most staunch supporters of this company. Not a blind follower, and not one who accepted everything without question, but one who had absolute faith that they cared about the future of the game and the gaming climate. This has made it wildly apparent that they care only about the numbers, the bottom line.

I'm not naive. I know that ZOS is a business first, as is any MMO. Hell, I went to college for the business side of gaming. There were multiple other routes that could have been taken, however, to increase said bottom line without compromising the integrity of the game itself, and without making an entire group of people feel as though they've only paid to play a beta.

Even if the business model were changed at this point, I doubt I'd come back. If I have no confidence in the way a company is conducting its business with a game, I have no desire to waste my time or my money supporting them.

I'm sure this will just get dismissed along with the countless other "bye" threads that are here and will come, but I needed to say it.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that all of you continuing to play the game will enjoy yourselves immensely and not feel duped or ripped off by a company to which you have remained loyal.

ZOS owed me nothing, but I expected much, and perhaps that was my own mistake.

Happy adventuring in Tamriel, friends.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · January 2015

Ahdora wrote: »

Yes, I'm leaving, too. No, I'm not a whiner.

'Leaving' before you see what happens is the epitome of rage-quitting, so yes, you are.

sirston · January 2015

thanks for all the heals see you in another game.

Ahdora · January 2015

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

Yes, I'm leaving, too. No, I'm not a whiner.

'Leaving' before you see what happens is the epitome of rage-quitting, so yes, you are.

Way to ignore the rest of the post entirely, but it's okay. I knew that would happen with a least a few folks here.

Rydik · January 2015

May i have your staff, please?=)
Im agree with you, but i think il give it a try.

Sallington · January 2015

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

Yes, I'm leaving, too. No, I'm not a whiner.

'Leaving' before you see what happens is the epitome of rage-quitting, so yes, you are.

I don't understand how anyone can trust ZoS at this point.

Ahdora · January 2015

sirston wrote: »

thanks for all the heals see you in another game.

I have at least one Ahdora character in every game I play, so if you see her, send a message!

Roechacca · January 2015

Sorry to see this happen Man . Farewell .

Ahdora · January 2015

Rydik wrote: »

May i have your staff, please?=)
Im agree with you, but i think il give it a try.

Is that a euphemism? *eyebrow waggle*

ers101284b14_ESO · January 2015

Yep I'm out too good thing I paid with a free game time card but it ends on the 8th.

Neryaz · January 2015

Agreed with you

Ahdora wrote: »

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Here's why.

It's not about people being able to play the game for free. I have no issue with that, so long as a true paid subscription is still available. I have no issue with a cash shop that offers appearance/vanity only items.

Here are my concerns:
The cash shop already has what they call "convenience" items. Like pots. You can bet those will be superior to the crafted ones. Sorry, alchemists.

The paid version offers significant advantages to subscribers. You might say "well, then subscribe." Obviously I have no problem with that, I've been subbed since launch. This kind of significant advantage, however, creates a rift in the community. Community is one of the most important things to me in an MMO. I can only see it degrading with this model, and I want no part of that.

Again with community: dismiss it all you want, but I've been in a lot of F2P/B2P MMOs, and the kind of crowd drawn there is... less than ideal. i don't know if it's because the game is free and therefore they don't care if they get banned, or if attracts a lot of immature kids whose parents refuse to pay a sub, or what... but it's something I've seen too many times for me to dismiss it.

The way they've already set up the system leads to believe it will only degrade from here, with more and more advantageous systems being offered behind a paywall.

It follows that content will now be more rushed and therefore less lackluster, due to a desire to get more money from paid DLC. Overall quality of the game will likely drop.

Now, my LARGER concern, and the reason I went ahead and canceled my sub, rather than just waiting around to see how this will play out:

I no longer have any faith in ZOS as a company.

I'm not naive. I know that ZOS is a business first, as is any MMO. Hell, I went to college for the business side of gaming. There were multiple other routes that could have been taken, however, to increase said bottom line without compromising the integrity of the game itself, and without making an entire group of people feel as though they've only paid to play a beta.

ZOS owed me nothing, but I expected much, and perhaps that was my own mistake.

Happy adventuring in Tamriel, friends.

Agreed.

ZOS_GaryA · January 2015

We understand and respect that sometimes people will leave The Elder Scrolls Online community. We're closing this thread now per our Code of Conduct policy on quitting/goodbye threads, but we wish you the very best.