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Arcane Fighter Talent (2h)

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can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?
  • Soliss
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    It might have something to do with:

    "Weapon enchantments can now proc elemental damage status effects, such as burning or chilled."

    It says elemental, which I believe would exclude disease and poison.
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    which is implying that they could proc disease and poison before this bug, which is a separate issue entirely than arcane fighter.
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

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    Nala_ wrote: »
    which is implying that they could proc disease and poison before this bug, which is a separate issue entirely than arcane fighter.

    Yeah, in my testing, I haven't been able to ever get weapon enchants to proc either the disease debuff or poison dot.... only the initial damage effect.

    This fix... which only applies to fire/shock/cold effects seems lazy on the part of the developers... as if they forgot that other statuses even exist.

  • killedbyping
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    Funny part, that there is no such thing as proc %.
    You just proc any enchant or effect from set bonuses like Viper every 4 seconds, so this passive are completely useless and looks more like a juke to me.
    Never used any desease or poison enchants thou, but Viper set proc works just fine with 100% chance to proc every 4 seconds.
    Edited by killedbyping on September 4, 2014 6:48AM
  • kkampaseb17_ESO
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

    Then that means it works since it states that it INCREASES the chance to apply status effects by 100%. It doesn't say it applies status effects 100%. That means in doubles the chances.

    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    Funny part, that there is no such thing as proc %.
    You just proc any enchant or effect from set bonuses like Viper every 4 seconds, so this passive are completely useless and looks more like a juke to me.
    Never used any desease or poison enchants thou, but Viper set proc works just fine with 100% chance to proc every 4 seconds.

    That is correct and incorrect. Procs happen on regular time intervals. However, the special effects that happen from elemental damage like burning, chilling etc have a certain percentage (unknown if I am not mistaken) to go off. Arcane fighter affects those special effects (status effects) not the actual proc rate....
    Edited by kkampaseb17_ESO on September 4, 2014 8:41AM
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    There are really powerful sets in this game that take advantage of Arcane Fighter more then just weapon sets, I let Sypher in on one of the sets I'm using that's just silly with Arcane Fighter.
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

    you didnt understand how arcane fighter actually worked if you think it was suppose to make it 100%.

    you people dont understand the difference between applying the effect, and having the damage proc on a weapon enchant. they are 2 different things.

    right now arcane fighter isnt applying the 100% bonus chance for some of the status effects to proc whenever people are hit by that type of damage.
  • guybrushtb16_ESO
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

    you didnt understand how arcane fighter actually worked if you think it was suppose to make it 100%.

    you people dont understand the difference between applying the effect, and having the damage proc on a weapon enchant. they are 2 different things.

    right now arcane fighter isnt applying the 100% bonus chance for some of the status effects to proc whenever people are hit by that type of damage.

    AFAIK there are no bonus procs (outside of destro staff) whatsoever right now, so arcane fighter might not even be broken actually.
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

    you didnt understand how arcane fighter actually worked if you think it was suppose to make it 100%.

    you people dont understand the difference between applying the effect, and having the damage proc on a weapon enchant. they are 2 different things.

    right now arcane fighter isnt applying the 100% bonus chance for some of the status effects to proc whenever people are hit by that type of damage.

    AFAIK there are no bonus procs (outside of destro staff) whatsoever right now, so arcane fighter might not even be broken actually.

    thats not true. there are no ELEMENTAL status effects being applied right now, but poison and disease do apply, on both live and the PTS
  • Xsorus
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    can someone else run tests on this talent on the PTS? im getting mixed data from it, to me it seems like the rate of proccing is doubling on burning,shock,cold, but im not getting those increases on disease and poison. anyone else have PTS that can run separate date to compare?

    i tested it..I'm thinking it just doubles the normal proc rate of status effects, and isn't actually 100% chance to apply status effects.

    you didnt understand how arcane fighter actually worked if you think it was suppose to make it 100%.

    you people dont understand the difference between applying the effect, and having the damage proc on a weapon enchant. they are 2 different things.

    right now arcane fighter isnt applying the 100% bonus chance for some of the status effects to proc whenever people are hit by that type of damage.

    When I tested it in pts, the status effects were going off with the weapon enchants. Now I don't know the base rate they are suppose to go off so it's hard to test arcane fighter. I just know it's not 100% chance
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    but like if you had on a set that randomly did 50 fire damage, would the fire damage from the set proc the same status effect that the weapon enchant can proc?
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    but like if you had on a set that randomly did 50 fire damage, would the fire damage from the set proc the same status effect that the weapon enchant can proc?

    Yea..Its burning..

    I actually a set that does that but with Disease Damage...
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