Dayv wrote: »

I know there's no such thing as a five-minute job when writing software, but I sometimes think ZOS doesn't realise that given the number of bugs I've seen introduced into the game. I think ZOS have tried to rush things and cut corners with quality quite often. I write software for aircraft and I don't expect them to have to follow as stringent procedures as I do as no lives are at risk, but if I was as sloppy as ZOS appear to be I could not only be fired but literally end up in prison.

Yeah, I agree that there seems to be a large number of regressions

Soloeus wrote: »

I won't vote in a trash poll like this, I gave you an LOL to mock you and make fun of you. You are setting up a bait-and-switch with an Appeal To Authority (on the grounds of only people with "Software Experience" should have the right to express opinions or think anything).

Your argument form is also Anti-Democracy and Anti-Freedom of Speech. We have a society where everyone who is and adult and isn't a felon can vote. We don't exclude people from expressing their views because they aren't a billionare, or because they don't have 10 years of experience as an Auto Mechanic. Instead, people who know nothing at all about cars are allowed to discuss their woes and comment about things they don't like.

This poll is pretty much here to make attacks against a group you created called "Complainers" that you can just lump anyone into. And your first assault is to question their rights to speak based on a lack of expertise.

Overreact much? Thanks for your "begging the question" logical fallacy, but there is no point at which I forbid or exclude people from stating their opinion. The intent of this poll is to shed light on the amount of the (self-reporting) community who has experience in making software.

In no way have I restricted anyone's right of speech, if such a thing applies on message board of a private company. Further, I created a poll to petition feedback, not silence it, as your paradoxical argument states. You misunderstand the difference between questioning someone's right and someone's competence. I can't silence people, nor do I want to, but I can help provide context in the area of my expertise as to the fundamental misunderstanding.

As to the bait-and-switch appeal to authority, how do you suppose I'll ever become a trusted authority to the 'complainers' when they clearly distrust the only 'authority' of the creation of ESO, Zenimax? That's not my agenda, but I appreciate your comment as it's helped me clarify mine.

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

Here's my opinion of this:

#include <iostream.h>

int main()
{

char ans ;
cout>> ("Is the OP really a software developer?\n");
cin>> ans;
if (ans=="yes")

{

cout<<printf ("Why does he think the end user is irrelevant?\n"<<endl);
}

if (ans=="no")
{
cout<< "Do not feed the troll!!!"<<endl;
}

else
cout<<"Incorrect answer"<<endl;
return 0;
}

We have a winner!!!!!!!!!

/thread

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

Here's my opinion of this:

#include <iostream.h>

int main()
{

char ans ;
cout>> ("Is the OP really a software developer?\n");
cin>> ans;
if (ans=="yes")

{

cout<<printf ("Why does he think the end user is irrelevant?\n"<<endl);
}

if (ans=="no")
{
cout<< "Do not feed the troll!!!"<<endl;
}

else
cout<<"Incorrect answer"<<endl;
return 0;
}

Not bad C++ code, but you're assuming I think the end-user irrelevant. I do not believe that, only that they are misinformed or have a poor understanding of software development that leads to unreasonable demands.

Studying business informatics and working besides in project management. (So only experience in Java, ABAP (for SAP) and Android (which is mostly Java))

And I know fixing bugs which require to alter huge amount of code are really taking its time.

But fixing a bug like e.g. the broken variable for the nights silence set has to be something done in a few minutes, because normally in object oriented programming this should be ONE variable which has to be changed. It even shouldn't be hard to find.
Getting answers like this

Hey everyone. We currently have this slated to be fixed when Update 3 goes live. To be clear, the issue with this set is not just a tooltip error, but also the application of the bonus itself. There are many factors that go into fixing an issue, including coding and localization. That said, the correct percentage for the stealth bonus is 60%, and not 220%.

for this kind of bug is just embarrassing.
If they say "...but also the application of the bonus itself." this would mean they don't even have something like the sneakmechanic in a method, cause otherwise it would just be the change of the variable in this set fixing this bug, mechanics and tooltip wise.

It seems to me that they have some sort of spagetthi-code and there are no objects for things like that, that may also be reason why some bug fixing only affects certain skills, while other skills, with the same mechanic aren't affected.

And WTF means localization? Localization of a % number!? Oo
Do they have to translate it in Hindi cause they outsourced the bug fixing to India?

I really would like to see an UML-diagramm of TESO, to see how they handle certain mechanics.

I know as a business informatician I have no knowledge of graphical programming, but on the other hand we have to be way more careful with calculation. Patching a software and have a routine that shows 220% were it should be 60% can cause our customers to lose millions of dollars in nutshell.