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Continued Bot Problem Growing
Griffus
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Some of us in the vet 1-10 zone probably never noticed. As I know I didn't until i retooled a few new toons w/ ppl. Bots are a "big big big" problem in the game. Which i feel just keeps becoming more and more evident, and the bots become more bold. I've spent every free minute running around Stonefalls reporting every bot I see for the last few days. I suggest everyone take a little time and do the same. Once you see how many "bots" there are. You'll be truly amazed. There are droves of bots following 1 toon who leads them from point A to point B. they spam farm Jute, herbs etc, forcing the system to "respawn" the perspective rss. immediately unlike other nodes these nodes farmed religiously by the bots spawn over and over. flooding our economy w/ hemming, embroidery, etc. Similarly they are doing it w/ iron flooding market. I've even reported some of the obvious "sellers" of gold farmed material. Players/Gold farmers selling outrageous amounts of materials which i saw leading a group of Bots around the map. I really don't know how the market can be so good for bots that they can have the 30-40 accounts following them i've been seeing it grow though. It used to be just a problem at "named" solo/public dungeon mobs. Now its spread to the physical world of Tamerial. They are a plague worse than the undead. If enough players don't come attempt to quell some of this botting the bots will claim tamerial. No way on earth 30 players following 2-3 named outfitted toons are not bots when all 30 have names like "xadfasdfasdf" and they follow circular pathing over and over doing the same things. Its also seen heavily in Coldhabor. Though It seems like between coldharbor and stonefalls or any other starter area to coldharbor the middle ground is "unoccupied by bots" similarly the vet modes seem void of bots. I am wondering what hindrance keeps them souly in these areas as i see them active same names for "long" periods of time.
Sincerely,
@JSumner
(aka Griffus)
Sincerely,
@JSumner
(aka Griffus)
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Griffus✭You'll see 2-3 bot at a jute, iron, or herbal spawn point when one is full the others start farming it. That way the bot farmers can take these ill gotten gain back to town at stacks of 60x100 for 400-500g ea on jute, 60x100x2.5g on the herbal stacks, etc. Jute doesn't normally spawn "endlessly" like the nodes they farm, nor do herbs, or iron. So i think another question is what are they exploiting to cause the nodes to spawn this readily? At the rate their spawning the nodes and flooding our market w/ both refined, and unrefined materials I fear for the "Megaserver" economy on basic materials pooling funds away from true payers towards bots and bot owners and those who have bought possibly from bots unknowingly or knowingly. Or pretend to be real players while continuing to take services from the bots.
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Griffus✭Please Please Please i beg you if your a player who wants this world to succeed, and if your on the tech support side as well. take more time out to go out and quell this horror before it claims our land. I myself will devote 1 hour a day to tagging bots. I hope more people will take a little time go back to starter zones and give 10-15 minutes look for those packs of "odd named gobbledygook ***" and report them all. Trust me at the rate i see them daily "You will see" plenty if you just look for them. They seem to love to congregate around Stonefalls "Alief, and Marracs" quest on the hill there's 3-4 Jute and other rss spawn points they like to farm. As well as you can see "oodles" of them on the beach fighting the Drugh.
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Pyr0xyrecuprotite✭✭✭✭✭I've seen what look like bots of this type (basic forgotten/slave linen clothes, jumble of nonsensical letters as their name) in ones or twos, following or near another character, in both the EP and AD L15-L25 areas. They were going around killing dreughs and mudcrabs mainly, presumably to farm hides/carapaces, probably getting multiple rewards for the kills? -
Iorail✭✭✭✭You'll see 2-3 bot at a jute, iron, or herbal spawn point when one is full the others start farming it. That way the bot farmers can take these ill gotten gain back to town at stacks of 60x100 for 400-500g ea on jute, 60x100x2.5g on the herbal stacks, etc. Jute doesn't normally spawn "endlessly" like the nodes they farm, nor do herbs, or iron. So i think another question is what are they exploiting to cause the nodes to spawn this readily? At the rate their spawning the nodes and flooding our market w/ both refined, and unrefined materials I fear for the "Megaserver" economy on basic materials pooling funds away from true payers towards bots and bot owners and those who have bought possibly from bots unknowingly or knowingly. Or pretend to be real players while continuing to take services from the bots.
What they do it's simple.
-They stack farmers in all nods on an X area, which causes all nods to instantly respawn as they are all been gather at the same time.
-They set 2-3 farmers a nod in intervals so when one is full and going to town, the other can take over and to prevent you, as a player, in ninja'ing the nod.
-They go to town with the bags full of, for example, Raw Jute and refine it to get the maximum amount of materials out of it (Boosters, Stones, etc).
-They vendor the refine Jute at 400g a pop per stack to the vendor, which can be as little as 60,000 refine jute per trip (getting 10 refine out of every single raw), which equals at 240,000g....
-Add to this all the boosters and I say they got it down to the teeth.
Unacceptable they allow this to continue.
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Griffus✭Damn. Truly amazing lol i have a vet 10 and lvling through the levels with 4 professions maxed out only have 125,000g to my name lol. Thats truly amazing and answers how the gold farmers make their gold they sell so fast at 100k for 20 USD thats possibly 60 USD from 3 bots farming for a day just from the jute alone they pay off the cost of 1 account. So the initial investment to make this monster army of bots seems to be paying off for themYou'll see 2-3 bot at a jute, iron, or herbal spawn point when one is full the others start farming it. That way the bot farmers can take these ill gotten gain back to town at stacks of 60x100 for 400-500g ea on jute, 60x100x2.5g on the herbal stacks, etc. Jute doesn't normally spawn "endlessly" like the nodes they farm, nor do herbs, or iron. So i think another question is what are they exploiting to cause the nodes to spawn this readily? At the rate their spawning the nodes and flooding our market w/ both refined, and unrefined materials I fear for the "Megaserver" economy on basic materials pooling funds away from true payers towards bots and bot owners and those who have bought possibly from bots unknowingly or knowingly. Or pretend to be real players while continuing to take services from the bots.
What they do it's simple.
-They stack farmers in all nods on an X area, which causes all nods to instantly respawn as they are all been gather at the same time.
-They set 2-3 farmers a nod in intervals so when one is full and going to town, the other can take over and to prevent you, as a player, in ninja'ing the nod.
-They go to town with the bags full of, for example, Raw Jute and refine it to get the maximum amount of materials out of it (Boosters, Stones, etc).
-They vendor the refine Jute at 400g a pop per stack to the vendor, which can be as little as 60,000 refine jute per trip (getting 10 refine out of every single raw), which equals at 240,000g....
-Add to this all the boosters and I say they got it down to the teeth.
Unacceptable they allow this to continue.
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Anath_Q✭✭✭✭If you look carefully, you'll see bots with nothing more than their heads showing above ground near the crafting stations, refining away like mad.
Happily, it makes reporting them easier. Nothing more exhausting than chasing bot trains to grab the names.
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Griffus✭I think some problem(s) also with bots are response time by ZSO. I reported a set of bots i saw going to and from Jute 3 times yesterday morning, noon, and night and I bet if the servers were up right now they would still be there. Even with all the banning and account suspentions the bots still seem to largely slip through the cracks. I know ZSO directly stated they banned 10,000 or whatever # of bots the first month. But if i walk around the map i can find more than 10,000 in a few hours by myself who i have little if any doubt are bots. And the problem grows.
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I made a thread you should visit called "Stop Multiclienting!" and this thread needs all the attention it can get.
I think part of why we have a bot plague is related to open multiboxing.
Having no up-front resistance to running multiple instances of the game satisfies the first prerequisite of a bot plague. I think your issue and mine are related, and we should go on a report spree some time.
I encourage all players to begin grouping up to visit busy spawn sites, or known bot-harvest areas. Having 2-4 people report a "Bot Horde" will work better than just 1 person reporting it.
Edit: A link to my thread.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/95512/stop-multiclienting#latestEdited by Soloeus on May 12, 2014 4:50PM
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Evandus✭✭✭✭Don't forget the newly emboldened selling accounts I see posting things like WTS Embroidery, Hemming, Dwarven Oil, Honing Stones. It's painfully obvious where this came from. I even engaged to verify on my bank mule.
Me: How much do you have?
(2 minute delay for I assume a translator program).
Them: As many as you want.
Me: How much per unit?
(1 minute delay for translation)
Them: 300gp per unit.
Me: So, if I want 600 Dwarven Oils, that will cost me?
(2 minute delay)
Them: 180kgp
I agree and travel to the totally non conspicous toon standing in the Daggerfall bank with a name similar too, but not 'akledj'- level 3 in Soul Shriven Gear. Open a trading window and see them put 600 Dwarven Oils into the trade window. I then log off...
So Zenimax: Could you inform me how it is that an actual player would be running around with 600 extra Dwarven Oil without using some sort of exploit?
Yesterday, it took me almost two hours to finish the first part of retaking Camlorn, as the werewolves were non existent due to the huge bot train running around in there killing everything. Only finished it by tagging them out of sheer frustration with Mutagen. Took an extra half hour to get harpies trapped in the Shrieking Scar due to bot trains killing everything. There were obvious bots running around in the air for the love of Pete. This was on a Templar I rolled up as an alt.
I'm getting frustrated. This is pretty ridiculous.
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Griffus✭I see this even in the vet 10 zones actually these "sellers". Some of them respond very fast and address how do they have 1000 Temporing alloy already as "i represent a conglomeration of friends". Which could be true, or could be a clear bot. The seller market is "hard" to tell if its real or fake. I think all accounts that have had interaction in the materials should be evaluate for how often they get "xyz" supplies from several accounts. I would think it wouldn't be hard to figure out these bots routines.
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Griffus✭I've not noticed them as active as you have Soloeus. The bot bots, and some of their vendors follow the same patterns, and are very lackluster for responses when they aren't actively advertising.They would use normal names in hopes to avoid identification. They can also jump between boxes and "talk".
They would also be at the keyboard most of the time making them harder to identify.