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May be cancelling my subscription soon.

Crazysam87
I played a bit during the beta weekends and I had a total blast with the game, but since launch all I see is bugged quests, infinite loadings, doors not opening, items vanishing from inventory, ncp's not responding, random dismounts and God knows the list could go on almost forever

I was fortunate enough to never get caught by a story-line quest bugged like many others, but all the *** I see and have to deal with is pissing me off real bad! I did not buy the game to be constantly frustrated by all the horrible bugs. I want to enjoy my gaming experience and I want to have fun, but I can't cause you gave us a piece of total crap and I feel ripped off.

You wanted the game out fast to avoid a close release to Wildstar? Your investors where pushing you too hard? I don't even want to know why you launched the game at such an horrible state, but you did and had no respect for your paying customers!
I understand that all new games have bugs cause I played most MMO's at their release and in my personnal experience, ESO is the worst I've been through so far!

I'm certainly not gonna pay you 15$ a month so you can just fix things. Paying a sub is for content and for the staff working on all the aspects of the game. By now, we all can see ESO price will drop in a couple months or even weeks and you will be forced to go F2P within a year if the game is to survive, so maybe I will just cancel my sub and wait!
  • randomaffliction66
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    Yeah for real this game is do e do not waste your money it will be free to play in a few months people always deny it but rest assured it will be so save your money and sit tight :)
    Brave New World.
  • WitchAngel
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    Making games is not art, it's 100% business. If it pays off to release a bugged game, a bugged game will be released. The stockholders can actually sue a corporation for not pursuing profit. They have no choice. Profit is first, second, third and fourth priority.

    Though I must admit that I have no idea whether ZoS, Bethesda and all those are companies or corporations.
    Edited by WitchAngel on April 20, 2014 8:17PM
  • jdhayes54b14_ESO
    you guys dont even know the real bad ***. i bought the game payed my sub fee and i havent played a single *** minute. i open the launcher press play and nothing. I have sent 3 emails and spent 2 hours on the phone with a support member and still hasn't been solved. And thats not including the 30mins i had to wait on hold.
  • Auric_ESO
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    and the 1million players not having issues means that the game is broke and going free to play. Not likely.
    "The purpose of training is to tighten up the slack, toughen the body, and polish the spirit." Morihei Ueshiba
  • BouchRS
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    There are not 1 million people playing this game. If there were, you would get nothing done. No mobs at all. To believe there are even 500k people on the US server is lunacy, right now.
  • patrikblb16_ESO
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    WitchAngel wrote: »
    Making games is not art, it's 100% business. If it pays off to release a bugged game, a bugged game will be released. The stockholders can actually sue a corporation for not pursuing profit. They have no choice. Profit is first, second, third and fourth priority.

    Though I must admit that I have no idea whether ZoS, Bethesda and all those are companies or corporations.

    Releasing bugged games will hurt their future revenues hard, if they want to cut off he hand that feeds them there's nothing we can do to stop them.
  • Bunk
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    expecting an MMO not to be bugged

    lol
    idiot
  • Sedalias_Hope
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    Actually I could not disagree with your post more. The GAME is improving on a daily basis. Perhaps some of the issues a lot of people are having is clicking through things and not reading ( NOT SAYING THIS IS YOU) Yes a couple weeks ago several quests were bugged but the developers are fantastic and are working through these issues quite quickly tbh. Everyone that has been around game launches has become very accustomed to the "when you fix one thing, something else breaks" problems, and we are seeing that as well, but it will improve, just like everything else has. The customer support has been, well lacking for the most part, so yes I get the frustration. But the game is improving and I do not see this as a free to play game in a few months or even years. This isn't a "here it is deal with it" type of launch, these guys have been working non-stop on fixing bugs. I have slammed the customer service in multiple threads in this forum, they are unprofessional, understaffed (I guess) and were unprepared, but that is NOT the game and the team of fantastic developers that are working to improve and even add more content.
  • Aryth
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    WitchAngel wrote: »
    Making games is not art, it's 100% business. If it pays off to release a bugged game, a bugged game will be released. The stockholders can actually sue a corporation for not pursuing profit. They have no choice. Profit is first, second, third and fourth priority.

    Though I must admit that I have no idea whether ZoS, Bethesda and all those are companies or corporations.

    Yeah, your suspicions are correct. Bethesda is an LLC and Zenimax only trades privately. There may be some financial pressure for them, but not from a stockholder perspective since, in both cases, the companies are owned by the founders and/or the employees.
  • thegamekittenub17_ESO
    This game needs more than a band-aide. It has lots of issues and I see come May Zenimax is going to see some pain when people refuse to re-sub for a very broken game. Yes, it is very broken.

    My fiancé loves this a bit more than I since I can't talk him out of trying WildStar and thinking of playing that instead of this if come June this game is still messed up as bad as it now.

    And I love my fiancé so I will continue to play with him, because this what we do as our do stuff together. I am a bit down because as of now Elder Scrolls online brings me more headaches than fun.

    Seriously, I didn't purchase the Imperial Box Edition, the gold horse, and Lore books just so I could play re-log to make game work game..>.>
  • grizzbi
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    I've encountered a few bugs but a lot less than in other mmos a few weeks after their launch. And none of these bug was game breaking. I may be wrong but I think that most of the players are like me. Also I've never seen a game with such a well optimized engine. I run it without any problem on an old computer. I'm going to buy a new one but it isn't really necessary.

    I'm more annoyed by the different exploits and of course those shameless goldspammer/botter.

    Bugs and exploits are not always related. I think it's important to make a difference.

  • Sharee
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    BouchRS wrote: »
    There are not 1 million people playing this game. If there were, you would get nothing done. No mobs at all. To believe there are even 500k people on the US server is lunacy, right now.

    Ever heard of instancing?
  • Tavore1138
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    The only 'game breaker' for a while was in Shornhelm for me, a few other quests were bugged but most appear to have been fixed.

    Lag on busy days can be frustrating at times if it messes up a boss fight & IMO there are one or two areas where the boss battles & allies are... erratic...

    Customer service is gradually improving, at least in comms.

    Exploits are annoying but I have yet to find they impact on my gameplay so... meh...

    A week and a half back I was also in anger/quit mode but have found myself enjoying it more as time goes on.
    GM - Malazan
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  • revanghost
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    When you have forum moderators looking at every post instead of fixing the game or communicating with customers about the game...

    When you have game breaking bugs not caught during beta that continue for weeks...

    When you allow a massive dupe and bots to destroy economy and PvP...

    When you rollback your game repeatedly, wasting your customers' time and effort

    You're going to have a game like SWTOR. All of this happening to ESO happened to SWTOR, which went F2P. It's sad because personally, ESO is a fantastic game. The management of the game is killing it.
  • Donarion
    Donarion

    My fiancé loves this a bit more than I...

    And I love my fiancé so I will continue to play with him...

    "Maybe the dingo ate your baby!"
  • Lord_Onyx
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    Im not even going to bother renewing myself. The fact that these dupe glitches are completely rampant and the fact that people are NOT even getting banned is a complete joke. Some of the dupers completely got away with it so it tell me they didnt even do a proper job about it. I didnt purchase the Imperial Edition just to have the game already RUINED by game breaking glitches that give people millions of gold. Gold spammers will get worse when Zenimax realizes theres another dupe glitch still going around lol and PVP will be garbage when theres legendary geared players running around. I dont give a S*** if the game is "2 weeks old" these dupe glitches shouldnt happen especially this bad. And ESPECIALLY for a company like Zenimax who excels in these types of games.
  • Valethar
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    revanghost wrote: »
    When you have forum moderators looking at every post instead of fixing the game

    Here's a newsflash for you professor. Forum moderators deal with the forums. They're not the game developers. Many of them aren't even paid employees, they're volunteers. As such, they have nothing to do with what gets fixed in the game, short of passing on information they find on the forums to ensure it gets some attention from the people who can fix things.

    Does the Dev team monitor the forums and interact with the masses? Some do, yes. However, their job isn't to close threads and hand out infractions like you think. Do they have the ability to do so? Absolutely, but they generally have more important things to deal with than cruising the forums looking for trolls.
    Resistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.
  • HandofBane
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    I am still undecided whether to continue my sub or not. I have run into massive numbers of bugs and problems, including being unable to cross some zone lines/enter Cyrodiil this weekend, quests that cannot be completed, several achievements that never triggered (Eastmarch), and assorted other issues.

    What may be the deciding factor is how they handle the next big dupe/bug. I reported it (more than once), but have no way to know if the report worked as the /bug interface gave a blank page at the end rather than the usual "Thanks for reporting this" message. If I get caught up in the ban wave following that, along with the hundreds/thousands of others who are at risk for accidentally triggering the bug, it will guarantee I am not renewing. No patience to fight with their already weak customer service just to get back in if they manage to screw that up after admitting their failure with bans of innocents the last time around.
  • Demira
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    Actually I could not disagree with your post more. The GAME is improving on a daily basis. Perhaps some of the issues a lot of people are having is clicking through things and not reading ( NOT SAYING THIS IS YOU) Yes a couple weeks ago several quests were bugged but the developers are fantastic and are working through these issues quite quickly tbh. Everyone that has been around game launches has become very accustomed to the "when you fix one thing, something else breaks" problems, and we are seeing that as well, but it will improve, just like everything else has. The customer support has been, well lacking for the most part, so yes I get the frustration. But the game is improving and I do not see this as a free to play game in a few months or even years. This isn't a "here it is deal with it" type of launch, these guys have been working non-stop on fixing bugs. I have slammed the customer service in multiple threads in this forum, they are unprofessional, understaffed (I guess) and were unprepared, but that is NOT the game and the team of fantastic developers that are working to improve and even add more content.

    I totally agree with your post, Sedalias!

  • Nordak
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    Maybe 1 million bots, The game's economy is broken, it isn't worth me continuing with my crafter. The bugs are nonstop, just today I had a new Character get stuck in Del's Claim due to not being able to load Auridon. I tried using fastravel, relogging and of course the /stuck command nothing would get me out of there.

    I have decided to unsub based on the current state of gameplay, the decision not to handle the Duping issues, and the lack of bans on botters.
    Edited by Nordak on April 20, 2014 10:04PM
  • revanghost
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    Valethar wrote: »
    Here's a newsflash for you professor. Forum moderators deal with the forums. They're not the game developers. Many of them aren't even paid employees, they're volunteers. As such, they have nothing to do with what gets fixed in the game, short of passing on information they find on the forums to ensure it gets some attention from the people who can fix things.

    Does the Dev team monitor the forums and interact with the masses? Some do, yes. However, their job isn't to close threads and hand out infractions like you think. Do they have the ability to do so? Absolutely, but they generally have more important things to deal with than cruising the forums looking for trolls.

    Ignorant much? Forum mods should be busy communicating with the customers about what's being done, what's being looked at, time frames for fixes, etc.
    This allows customers more confidence and increases subs, while the devs are busy fixing the game.
    Instead, forum mods are busy being the forum police, while those of us affected by gamebreaking bugs are left with canned responses that are copied and pasted from a database.

    Now go away and troll someone else.
  • Nordak
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    grizzbi wrote: »
    I've encountered a few bugs but a lot less than in other mmos a few weeks after their launch. And none of these bug was game breaking. I may be wrong but I think that most of the players are like me. Also I've never seen a game with such a well optimized engine. I run it without any problem on an old computer. I'm going to buy a new one but it isn't really necessary.

    I'm more annoyed by the different exploits and of course those shameless goldspammer/botter.

    Bugs and exploits are not always related. I think it's important to make a difference.

    Your actually better off with the older laptop, just upgrade you graphics card and ram. My 5 year old Asus handles the game better than a brand new HP for the same price. More of a Microsoft issue than anything to do with the game.
  • Shaggy214
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    Bugs can be fixed. They should of been fixed before launch but They are fixing them now at least. What bugs me are all the things they said were going to be in the game that aren't. For example, what happened to the option to filter out players that you don't want to see in the world. I want to role play but it's not as fun when the majority of the players don't do so. At least in WoW I can select a RP server. I am starting to think that we are not going to see a crime system like they promised and I will not be surprised if they never add the Thieves Guild or the Dark Brotherhood.
    Edited by Shaggy214 on April 20, 2014 10:14PM
  • raglau
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    Great game, abysmally managed and supported.
  • Soliduparrow
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    My fiancé loves this a bit more than I since I can't talk him out of trying WildStar and thinking of playing that instead of this if come June this game is still messed up as bad as it now.


    You are able to back out of it up until the ring goes on the finger. It is in the TOS you signed but probably did not read.
  • Xili
    Xili
    kids these days, so spoiled :) TESO had litteraly one of the smoothest mmo launches i ever had (and i pretty much played all of them). sure theres some bugs, but i havent encountered one single game-breaking bug so far. (this coming from someone who is veteran rank 10 and did almost every quest). In other words i can perfectly finish the content they offer in its current state.

    I truely cannot believe that some ppl would rage about a random dismount that rarely happens, a duping glitch wich has been in every other mmo out there. I dare you to name one mmo that didnt have a dupe glitch at some point :) there will always be those that want to hack/break the game and its not zenimax' fault. these guys are working very hard on fixing the game and banning the most intensive exploiters.

    ontop of that the game has more content than wow with all its current expansions combined, and they are alrdy putting out new content within 1-1.5 months of release? (craglorn) i say kudos to the devs!

    concidering these devs are totally new in the mmo genre... i'd say job well done sirs.

    end statement: stop acting like a spoiled brat and show some appreciation :)
  • Columba
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    Lol. I've been playing mmos for 20 years. This has been one of the buggiest launches
  • Strelok
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    Columba wrote: »
    Lol. I've been playing mmos for 20 years. This has been one of the buggiest launches
    Right you know because World of Warcraft wasn't a complete *** storm when it came out... right? RIGHT??!!?!

  • qwertyburnsb16_ESO
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    I admit I did reach a fukkit point with the recent login issues and did cancel my sub after not getting a phone call back. I slept on it and resubbed and found a player fix to my problems. I can put up with a few bugs here and there, but not getting to play is something else.

    The game itself I enjoy when working properly, however the customer support and public relations is just so woefully bad that I struggle to find words to really find how much it sucks.

    As for the bots and spam, there's plenty of forum posts and ZOS does next to nothing apart from more buffoonery with mistaken bans. The game is crying out for GM's and proof that there is a human at the other side of those support tickets.

    I would love this game to be a success, but ZOS just seem to be on the process of self destruction?
  • Xili
    Xili
    must be your hardware then, 90% of the bugs listed here i havent encountered once, nor has anyone in my guild complainted about them.
    Edited by Xili on April 20, 2014 10:35PM
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