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I have 30 more days I cannot play because I NEED to subscribe... THIS IS TOTAL BS!

  • angh
    angh
    @williambirkin‌ : I have bought and played about 8-10 subscription-based MMO's in last 5 years. This is not common practice. In fact this is worst approach I've seen yet. People saying this is common practice simply because they don't have any experience with this model and trying to defend publisher (probably because of being hardcore fanboy) and his model which is simply against consumers. They giving you option to use gamecode cards as a subscription method, but instead just check the box and buy the code at the end of the available period you are forced to buy the 2nd month before you will even play the first, not-do-free month you got with the game.
  • djodars
    djodars
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    @angh How is this not perfectly fine? If you had bothered reading the terms of service before buying the game, you would've known this and could've refused to buy the game based on the fact that you have to setup a subscription even before knowing if you want to continue playing the game or not...

    Yes they could do it differently, they could let you play for 30 days without setting anything up but it isn't like that at the moment and they've been very clear about it.

    People just like complaining for absolutely no reasons.
  • Atwa
    Atwa
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    I'm sad, a lot of ppl has boutght the game, and now can't play... :( It's frustrate.
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  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO
    Ok, I dont have credit card..


    There's your problem. Not Zenimax fault you don't have a credit card to setup the subscription. As soon as you bought the game, you agreed to the TOS and if you had read them or even just read what the requirements for the game was, you wouldn't have bumped into this problem.

    Ok, I dont have credit card..


    There's your problem. Not Zenimax fault you don't have a credit card to setup the subscription. As soon as you bought the game, you agreed to the TOS and if you had read them or even just read what the requirements for the game was, you wouldn't have bumped into this problem.

    Zenimax THE BAD BEST FACK ROBER
  • angh
    angh
    @djodars‌ :
    1. they allow you to set-up subscription with game time cards.
    2. they won't allow you to use free month without paying for new game time cards.

    For all the games I played it was enough to check game time option without actually buying the 2nd month to do that. I can understand the CC validation. But why do they want to validate my ability to buy a game time card?
    Don't be a sheep. If they wrote in the ToS that you have to pay E500 every 5 month you still would saying it is fine because it was written in ToS? Stupid and unnecessary terms are stupid regardless if they are written or not.
  • jjrgamer
    jjrgamer
    Kemono wrote: »
    Tera: F2P

    NEGATIVE... its F2P now, but was paid some months ago
    Kemono wrote: »
    SWTOR: F2P

    NEGATIVE.. was paid.
    Kemono wrote: »
    WOW -dont require autorization since they add free trial to 20 level Require autorization if you sub -

    Negative.. you can simply add 30 more days through paypal without set a subscription.. I know because I play since vanilla. You need to say only the things you really know.
    Kemono wrote: »
    other MMO you played -oh yea a bunch of F2P MMO

    I never played a F2P mmo... stopo being such a ***
    Edited by jjrgamer on April 7, 2014 3:37PM
  • ferenc72
    ferenc72
    I have only been able to play 5 minutes into the game since there was a bug. I sought help, but got none. Now my thirty days apparently over. What a bunch of crap.
  • beeriod
    beeriod
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    brokerxxxx you should not post this information here edit your post and make a ticket
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  • jjrgamer
    jjrgamer
    angh wrote: »
    @williambirkin‌ : I have bought and played about 8-10 subscription-based MMO's in last 5 years. This is not common practice. In fact this is worst approach I've seen yet. People saying this is common practice simply because they don't have any experience with this model and trying to defend publisher (probably because of being hardcore fanboy) and his model which is simply against consumers.


    FULLY AGREE!

  • Synikil1113
    Synikil1113
    Soul Shriven
    i might be misunderstanding, but from what i've seen in this thread people are upset that they have to pay for another 30days before they get their free 30 days? If this is what is actually being said i don't believe that it is actually working this way. Yes, they require you to set up a subscription before you can continue playing, this is true. Maybe its because i'm sorta old, but this is the way i remember almost all subscription based things on the internet being. So just put in the info, they don't actually charge you till the free thirty days are over. Just set up your subscription, log into the game and play for a few minutes so you know their system took it then log back into your account and cancel the subscription. Presto, you have your free thirty days, you are NOT charged for the next thirty days yet, and if you can't afford it after the free thirty days you will not be charged for it since you already cancelled your subscription. I've done this with every game that requires a subscription set up and have never had an issue.
  • Cowgomoo
    Cowgomoo
    djodars wrote: »
    @angh How is this not perfectly fine? If you had bothered reading the terms of service before buying the game, you would've known this and could've refused to buy the game based on the fact that you have to setup a subscription even before knowing if you want to continue playing the game or not...

    Yes they could do it differently, they could let you play for 30 days without setting anything up but it isn't like that at the moment and they've been very clear about it.

    People just like complaining for absolutely no reasons.

    I read the back of the box because that is what I purchased. It states that valid payment method or paid game time card for subscription is required. Not that subscription is required to redeem the 30 days free time. One could even go so far as to make the argument that the 30 days free time is considered a paid time card.

    While it didn't prevent me from registering the game, I'm simply stating that the wording that they printed on the box was poorly conceived. Between the poor wording and the commonplace practice of P2P games not requiring credit card validation upon registering your license key, I can see how people are miffed.


    Edit: I grammur gud.
    Edited by Cowgomoo on April 7, 2014 3:54PM
  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO
    It is supposed to be a temporary account verification charge that will be removed. You must have signed up for the 6 moth plan for the temp charge to be that high when most are upset about 15$
    and i cant my 30 days where is my 30 days
    I have already bought the Digital Imperial Edition for 80 EUR,
    i have order # MRGGPMLXXJLXEPF 2/12/2014,
  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO


    Eccentric wrote: »
    1. You don't pay by setting up a subscription, but it will at the end of the 30 day included with your game.
    2. Your girl must be playing on a mac obviously
    3. We all know girls do not exist on the internet, so this must all be a lie!!11


    1 is not entirely true. It is true if you use cc/paypal but for other payment methods you have to buy 30 more days to be able to use ur free 30 days.
    naw i cant play and not only inforf whise support
  • nrdw
    nrdw
    Soul Shriven
    i might be misunderstanding, but from what i've seen in this thread people are upset that they have to pay for another 30days before they get their free 30 days? If this is what is actually being said i don't believe that it is actually working this way. Yes, they require you to set up a subscription before you can continue playing, this is true. Maybe its because i'm sorta old, but this is the way i remember almost all subscription based things on the internet being. So just put in the info, they don't actually charge you till the free thirty days are over. Just set up your subscription, log into the game and play for a few minutes so you know their system took it then log back into your account and cancel the subscription. Presto, you have your free thirty days, you are NOT charged for the next thirty days yet, and if you can't afford it after the free thirty days you will not be charged for it since you already cancelled your subscription. I've done this with every game that requires a subscription set up and have never had an issue.

    Read the **** messages. Stop parroting this argument, because you're just not helping! People are mad because when you buy the game, it states that valid payment method or paid game time card for subscription is required. Not that subscription is required to redeem the 30 days free time. And that's especially bad for people living outside of the US.
  • Pahebe
    Pahebe
    Sharee wrote: »
    30 DAYS UNLIMITED GAME PLAY INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE. VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION AND PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED.

    You keep pasting it over in every thread. Doesn't help at all. Cool that you are so insightful and prepared for such an event. I must disagree tho with what you 're writting.

    30 DAYS UNLIMITED GAME PLAY INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE. - Unlimited, with purchase. And here comes second part of sentence VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION AND PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED - for further game playing AFTER your free time is over. This is how I and the rest understand it, and this is how it is written, tbh.

    I don't mind it anyway. Only thing I am sad about is unavailable prepaids, since this SHOULD be available at release and is not, and it is keeping most of player base away from game now. Not our fault that we do not own, do not want to own credit cards and such if prepaid option is here.

    Have fun in game ^^ I envy you so freakin much ^^
  • Vannor
    Vannor
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    I'm playing my free 30 days and haven't had to pay anything else, (my card was charged to enable the card to be confirmed as valid but that was refunded in minutes).
  • Toonen1988
    Toonen1988
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    jjrgamer wrote: »
    no, this is a SCAM.. I already played a lot of others mmors como wow (for 8 years), tera, gw2, swtor and others and I never had this problem...

    GW2 don't have a monthly fee.

    SWTOR (when it wasn't F2P) and especially WoW had this concept.

    I needed to buy a time card or 30 days on Blizzard before activating my serial key, WoW without any expansions.

    People are going to say, but if you buy a battlechest........ Yes, afcourse! Because there is a time card included.

    Without it, you still need to pay 30 extra days (60 in total).

    Even AngryJoe make this joke in his Guild Wars 2 review, about the $15 dollar when he was trying to buy WoW. Check it out!

    Just watch his joke at the begin of the video...


    This concept is used many years........
    Edited by Toonen1988 on April 7, 2014 4:11PM
  • preedb16_ESO2
    preedb16_ESO2
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    So it says "VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION"
    That is for SUBSCRIPTION.. Using the 30 days included game time that I got when I bought the game is something completely different and I can't find anywhere where it states I have to not only get a subscription plan, but have the funds TODAY on my account in order to activate the included gametime...

    I pre-ordered the digital imperial edition months ago, played in betas etc.. And this is the thanks I get... Oh, and if this is only to verify that I have a valid paypal account or VISA card, I already did that when I bought the game in the first place?

    I'm giving them 24h to sort this out and activate my 30 days, then I am getting a refund.
  • Dullemarc
    Dullemarc
    Soul Shriven
    I fail to see the problem, if you are scared that they will bill you for the 2nd month. Set it up with a CC or PP and log in, log out and cancel it. profit?
  • jjrgamer
    jjrgamer
    Toonen1988 wrote: »
    I needed to buy a time card or 30 days on Blizzard before starting my free 30 days (total 60 days).

    People are going to say, Battlechest didn't had this? Yes, correct, because a time card is included in a Battlechest.

    Exactly.. you buy the game and receive 30 days to play and you do not need to set ANY kind of subscription.
    Edited by jjrgamer on April 7, 2014 4:11PM
  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO
    Sub cancelled?....I guess he doesn't want his free 30 days. I don't remember paying for those.

    inb4 card verification thingy
    log into your game account at account.elderscrollsonline.com and follow the prompts to select your preferred subscription method.

    if you make cc dismiss 15 $ buy you cant 30 days free bought the Digital Imperial Edition for 80 EUR,
    i have order # MRGGPMLXXJLXEPF 2/12/2014,

  • invizo
    invizo
    So it says "VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION"
    That is for SUBSCRIPTION.. Using the 30 days included game time that I got when I bought the game is something completely different and I can't find anywhere where it states I have to not only get a subscription plan, but have the funds TODAY on my account in order to activate the included gametime...

    I pre-ordered the digital imperial edition months ago, played in betas etc.. And this is the thanks I get... Oh, and if this is only to verify that I have a valid paypal account or VISA card, I already did that when I bought the game in the first place?

    I'm giving them 24h to sort this out and activate my 30 days, then I am getting a refund.

    really if this is too challenging for you, drop the games, go back to work, and come back in a month when you have money. I'm sure you can tell this isn't some thrown-together MMO, its a AAA MMO, and premium experiences do not come cheap.

  • rawne1980b16_ESO
    rawne1980b16_ESO
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    jjrgamer wrote: »
    no, this is a SCAM.. I already played a lot of others mmors como wow (for 8 years), tera, gw2, swtor and others and I never had this problem...

    You paid a subscription for Guild Wars 2?

    Someone, somewhere, is laughing.

    Wanna buy some magic beans?
  • jjrgamer
    jjrgamer
    Dullemarc wrote: »
    I fail to see the problem, if you are scared that they will bill you for the 2nd month. Set it up with a CC or PP and log in, log out and cancel it. profit?

    the problem is: I have to wait 2 weeks to get credit on my paypal account and I dont have credit card. Which means I cannot use my gametime that I ALREADY PAID FOR.
  • Pahebe
    Pahebe
    I'm giving them 24h to sort this out and activate my 30 days, then I am getting a refund.

    http://datecountdown.com/?&d=4/8/2014+6:00+PM&t=preedb16_ESO2+quits

    Hope it helped :)
  • Nimrael
    Nimrael
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    Sharee wrote: »
    jjrgamer wrote: »
    no, this is a SCAM..

    No it's not, you just did not read the requirements which are publicly viewable on the game's store page:
    Additional Requirements

    30 DAYS UNLIMITED GAME PLAY INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE. VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION AND PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED.

    To be fair to him and thousands of other players:

    You should be able to play the free month without giving any info for payment etc. whatsoever, as you are in most other MMOs.


    30 DAYS UNLIMITED GAME PLAY INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE.
    VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION

    Where does it say I MUST subscribe in order to get the 30 days?

    ...

    Personally, I don't care, I did my sub with my card, no problem.
    But it was certainly done clumsily on Zenimax's part and I completely understand the rage that people effected are feeling.
  • preedb16_ESO2
    preedb16_ESO2
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    invizo wrote: »
    So it says "VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION"
    That is for SUBSCRIPTION.. Using the 30 days included game time that I got when I bought the game is something completely different and I can't find anywhere where it states I have to not only get a subscription plan, but have the funds TODAY on my account in order to activate the included gametime...

    I pre-ordered the digital imperial edition months ago, played in betas etc.. And this is the thanks I get... Oh, and if this is only to verify that I have a valid paypal account or VISA card, I already did that when I bought the game in the first place?

    I'm giving them 24h to sort this out and activate my 30 days, then I am getting a refund.

    really if this is too challenging for you, drop the games, go back to work, and come back in a month when you have money. I'm sure you can tell this isn't some thrown-together MMO, its a AAA MMO, and premium experiences do not come cheap.

    No I'm not saying its too challenging to me, and if I thought it was too expensive I wouldn't have bought the imperial edition now would I?
    It's just that right now I'm stuck with no funds on my VISA or paypal until the 27th of April, but I that should be fine, since I already bought the game with 30 days included game time. Except it's not, because without having the equivalent of 1 month subscription on my account, I can't access those 30 days..
    The irony of it all is that what brought my funds to 0 is the yearly VISA card fee.. LOL
  • brokerxxx4eb17_ESO
    MAKE DOS ATTAK ZENIMAX elderscrollsonline.com AND FORUMS
    brokerxxx4eb17_ESObrokerxxx4eb17_ESO ✭
    7:19PM in Customer Support - English
    I'm sad, a lot of ppl has boutght the game, and now can't play... :( It's frustrate.
    I have already bought the Digital Imperial Edition for 80 EUR,
    i have order # MRGGPMLXXJLXEPF 2/12/2014,
    i entered my game's registration code, but i could not to enter,
    because my code is invalid! I spent my money and my time,
    but i can not to play! Why??? Please send me right code or back money.
  • ArconSeptim
    ArconSeptim
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    What are you talking about all "this is standard for mmos bla bla bla ***" we dont like that and we wont give them to treat us like others mmo why should they be so greasy and dont let us play our paid time? Thats the reason why I prepurchased and bought it...
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