Now even I'm pissed off. prime time for Eu really?

Sakiri

Lenthas wrote: »

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

"Prime time" is evenings between 5 and 9 pm.

They're not taking it down in prime time.

10 am on a Sunday is not prime time.

Well thats true for NON WEEKEND, weekends as a whole is "prime time".

Not in the entertainment industry.

TheGoodShepherd

Grageeky wrote: »

TheGoodShepherd wrote: »

martinb16_ESO80 wrote: »

Ok, I have to admit that I got to play more than I expected from the early access, but seeing that this was a planned maintenance means that they knew beforehand that they will cut time off the early access. Without prior information, and that is what gets people so annoyed.

Also, Sunday Morning downtime during EU mornings... I would like to know who thought this would be a good idea. Have you even looked at other MMO's (such as WOW) and at what times there the most players are online? Guess what, it's not Monday mornings. Just saying.

Also, regarding the US players calling us whiners etc. It is untrue that US players make up the majority of PAYING subsribers, and what is the point of having two different servers if the maintenance is still not planned according to the players needs? Without us these poor IT workers would not have a job in the first place (and you don't hear me crying when I have to work at Thanksgiving).

everyone is down right now....so can EVERYONE stop trying to drive this stake between two continents?

God save the Queen!

touche, and I retort with "God bless America"
....your move Holmes

Valije

I don't whine that much usually, but since I got the early access, almost always I get home from work, the EU servers are down...

I hope you understand if you keep downtime hours like now, after the first 30 days the amount of people that pay the monthly fee will be not that much in EU.

Different servers -> different maintenance hours. Having a "EU" server down in EU peak hours is a nonsense, the same as having a "US" server down in US peak hours (I am sorry for the australinans).

kurstein

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Bringing down the game during European prime-time is not something we do lightly, and it is not our intent for it to be the norm. This is a bit of a unique case for launch day. When we have our weekly maintenances, which may not always be needed weekly, the one for the European megaserver is scheduled for Tuesdays at 13:00 BST (14:00 CEST) and Sundays at 09:00 BST (10:00 CEST.)

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Sundays10:00 CEST is a bad time look at it and se if you patch for 3-4h you will hit prim time on a sunday 12.00 CEST. I work as a it-admin and all server patch and updates are done at night to make for less down time. so I don't se the point in making down time on sundays.

Froobert

kurstein wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Bringing down the game during European prime-time is not something we do lightly, and it is not our intent for it to be the norm. This is a bit of a unique case for launch day. When we have our weekly maintenances, which may not always be needed weekly, the one for the European megaserver is scheduled for Tuesdays at 13:00 BST (14:00 CEST) and Sundays at 09:00 BST (10:00 CEST.)

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Sundays10:00 CEST is a bad time look at it and se if you patch for 3-4h you will hit prim time on a sunday 12.00 CEST. I work as a it-admin and all server patch and updates are done at night to make for less down time. so I don't se the point in making down time on sundays.

Thanks for the clarification Jessica! I'm very happy you guys respond to us on the forums! Thanks again for your communication!

randomaffliction66

Souler wrote: »

no, its *** bullshite. u pay for 5 days early acces, and out of the 5 days, ive been able to play 2 because of downtime. Iff they dont fix this *** by the end of the month i wont resubscribe.
What the hell do they think!

Prime time in the Eu eh, it's Prime time in Na as well, you didn't pay for the five days early access you paid for the game, they gave you five days early access, you may have said to your self " Self I'm getting in five days early, and that's why I'm buying this version of the game".

When in fact you didn't purchase five days early access that being said Yes I agree it does suck hahahahaha. What was supposed to be 3-4 hours is now what five hours? I believe na shard came down at 1 pm edt or at least that's when I logged off....


on the bright side, once they're up they shouldn't have any more down time today or tomorrow ( hopefully ) and we can play from here on out with no interruption.

christofdracul

Severia wrote: »

portallib14_ESO wrote: »

I think they're handling it pretty well, Keep complaining tho. I love watching the tears come rolling in when they're doing maintenance. you all are WAY over reacting to this. just chill out.

You have got to be kidding. This is the worse managed early access ever.

You clearly were not around for FFXIV, early access was unplayable at any time day or night as they had no server queue and no afk kick feature so people would stay logging in 24 hours a day. Consider yourself lucky this game is being handled as well as it is, its predecessors weren't so (and by that I mean every other mmo launch I have ever seen).

Inversus

Yeah, okay, we've had two or three server downtimes in launch week.
I agree with some of your points, but calm down.

steveb16_ESO46

Baggered up formatting. deleted.

randomaffliction66

Alphaeus wrote: »

Why did they say it would be back up for launch in 3-4 hours? Isn't launch at 7 tomorrow? What is going on?

The servers don't get shut down between now and launch, they're just doing what they need to do for the transition, once they come back up we can ply from here on out as if it were live... After all it mine as well be...

rootimus

All these whine threads make me think I'm reading the Eve online forum.

raglau

[quote="Clotholachesisatropos666b14_ESO;532488on the bright side, once they're up they shouldn't have any more down time today or tomorrow ( hopefully ) and we can play from here on out with no interruption.[/quote]

Well, until Sunday morning to afternoon when they take the EU server down again, in their all seeing wisdom.

simongaddb16_ESO

ArcheKnight wrote: »

It is prime time somewhere on Earth at all times. They aren't going to do updates and patches at different times, that would be very detrimental to the staff who has to be there. You are essentially asking them to work far more hours just so you can play during your national prime time.

I agree with the lack of warning though. If this was planned, they need to be more forthcoming with their down time information. If it wasn't planned, they should definitely not be passing it off as such.

I'm not "asking" them to work a few more hours, I am paying for it. If you are not prepared to cater to an EU audience properly in an online game, then don't advertise that you do. An EU mega server implies use by EU players, who live in EU time zones and have EU jobs. I work in the financial markets and we manage quite nicely with time zones and such things - I don't call my colleagues in Chicago when they are not there and I schedule phone conferences or virtual meetings around times when they are. This is not rocket science in the year 2014.

Please stop defending really poor decision making. They are raking in more than enough money on this to pay 3 or 4 employees overtime for a few weeks a year to patch a game sever at a time that better suits the paying client. How is this even a discussion point ? I am a client and I am paying to play this game at a prime time when I can virtually guarantee that others that are time zone matches will also be playing, because that's what they told me I was buying. With that comes the expectation of certain services. Do you go to a restaurant and think it ok if they bring the food when it suits them best to do so ? Oh, so sorry your meal is 5 hours late. There are no legal requirements for them to do it differently, but would you really ever go back there and think it was a great place to eat ?

olsborg

Its not about the downtime in the middle of prime time. But the lack of information beforehand (5 minutes doesnt count)

Erlqueen

I've read all this thread with my usual of what the heck attitude but Sunday maintenance has to be a mistype surely?

I'm looking forward to (hopefully) playing this game during the next month before subscription payment kicks in.

I'm hoping that all the BS that has gone before will be forgotten within that first few joyful hours of getting back into the game (if it ever let's me).

I'm usually quite laid back about this things, it is after all just a game and there are others that I can enjoy just as much instead, but seriously I'm thinking more and more of just playing for the time I've paid for, write off the price I paid for the game, and go back to playing a game where the customers actually seem to come first.

and before some troll comes along to say sarkily "We'll miss you" whatever... don't bother you are missing my point. If I'm considering this then there will be a lot of others also thinking the same.

I know that some hiccups were bound to happen but this is beyond the pale It could all have been handled so much better.

Kemono

christofdracul wrote: »

You clearly were not around for FFXIV, early access was unplayable at any time day or night as they had no server queue and no afk kick feature so people would stay logging in 24 hours a day. Consider yourself lucky this game is being handled as well as it is, its predecessors weren't so (and by that I mean every other mmo launch I have ever seen).

FF XIV early access was in fact very buggy, but seriously i was logged in for 2 days straigh without problems (that was better then waiting forever in queques)

Btw FF XIV is one of other MMOs that keep both NA and EU server in North America (Canada in this case).

Jonnymorrow

stefan9interrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Servers should have been taken down at seperate times. Don't call it an eu server if you aren't going to treat it seperately. Could take down the servers seperately yesterday, why doesn't the same apply today?

Exactly my friend.

randomaffliction66

helron wrote: »
I'm very unhappy with this.
Focusing on US-customers only is IGNORANT!

Clearly you're ignorant, number one we lost our server for almost 15 hours yesterday you did not.

Number 2. It's prime time for us as well so nothing you just said has any validity what so ever.

Number 3. You want to make comments like that? Okay well guess what? this company is a U.S company therefore insulting them and making comments like this once again serves no purpose lol. Of course we get things first in our country just like when countries in the Eu release games you get them before we do, stop freaking out and have some patience.


You all want to insult us, yet when the shoe is on the other foot act exactly the same, because hey after all were all human right

Immortal_1

helron wrote: »

I'm very unhappy with this.
Focusing on US-customers only is IGNORANT!

Just so you all know... I am from Minnesota, USA and our servers are all down as well

Sakiri

olsborg wrote: »

Its not about the downtime in the middle of prime time. But the lack of information beforehand (5 minutes doesnt count)

This. This this this this this.

christofdracul wrote: »

Severia wrote: »

portallib14_ESO wrote: »

I think they're handling it pretty well, Keep complaining tho. I love watching the tears come rolling in when they're doing maintenance. you all are WAY over reacting to this. just chill out.

You have got to be kidding. This is the worse managed early access ever.

You clearly were not around for FFXIV, early access was unplayable at any time day or night as they had no server queue and no afk kick feature so people would stay logging in 24 hours a day. Consider yourself lucky this game is being handled as well as it is, its predecessors weren't so (and by that I mean every other mmo launch I have ever seen).

EQ2 didn't have an afk kick. In fact, I don't recall if they ever added one.

If you're the only one in an instance it'll close it after 30 minutes afk, booting you offline, but that's the only thing I noticed. Closes instance to save on server resources.

You used to go afk in merchant mode in your house to sell things for consignment instead of using the broker, so you needed to be able to be in game without an auto afk kick.

I know FFIV has that merchant system thingy but I don't know how it works. Havent played it.

Tandor

Thinking about it a little more, the absurdity of taking down the EU megaserver at players' prime time on a Sunday morning could be better understood if it was a convenient (for which read "cheap") time for the maintenance team - but as I understand it, the maintenance is planned on a regular basis for the team at 4:00 am on a Sunday - can there be a worse time to ask people to work, let alone a more expensive one? It's not like you even tell us how long the maintenance is planned to take. Late morning? Mid-afternoon?

watcher

I don't think ESO really understands the gaming community. You don't leave your customer in the cold and how loyal will they be when something else comes along depends on their treatment. I seen games go under because of this.

FryingBullet

TheGoodShepherd wrote: »

Grageeky wrote: »

TheGoodShepherd wrote: »

martinb16_ESO80 wrote: »

Ok, I have to admit that I got to play more than I expected from the early access, but seeing that this was a planned maintenance means that they knew beforehand that they will cut time off the early access. Without prior information, and that is what gets people so annoyed.

Also, Sunday Morning downtime during EU mornings... I would like to know who thought this would be a good idea. Have you even looked at other MMO's (such as WOW) and at what times there the most players are online? Guess what, it's not Monday mornings. Just saying.

Also, regarding the US players calling us whiners etc. It is untrue that US players make up the majority of PAYING subsribers, and what is the point of having two different servers if the maintenance is still not planned according to the players needs? Without us these poor IT workers would not have a job in the first place (and you don't hear me crying when I have to work at Thanksgiving).

everyone is down right now....so can EVERYONE stop trying to drive this stake between two continents?

God save the Queen!

touche, and I retort with "God bless America"
....your move Holmes

No revocation without repudiation.

OK, not quite as catchy...

jsilva.casteloub17_ESO

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

"Prime time" is evenings between 5 and 9 pm.

They're not taking it down in prime time.

10 am on a Sunday is not prime time.

Dont be dumb... "prime time" is from 8pm to 11pm. What you're referring to is called "early fringe"... and its from 5pm-8pm.

About the week maintenance... What you guys have to understand is that this isnt WoW and yes, while we're burned from the 8 hours a week of "U NO PLAY" zenimax is taking a different approach on maintenance - In DAoC we never had a "U NO PLAY" day every damn week... only big patch-days and still they didnt last as long as WoW's regular maintenance does - still to this day I wonder what Blizzard does with all that time every freaking week and worse than that I wonder what the *** does that has to do with my Diablo and why cant I play it on tuesdays - Now this is something that people should be pissed about yet they accept it... because its Blizzard? Because its WoW? I dont know...

As for the "sunday" maintenance. Well the odds that I would play on a sunday at 9am... are slim to none and that would happen only if I was still up, because I would NEVER wake up at 9 am on a sunday and even if I do, its not to play ESO. But still... I have to agree that doing maintenance at weekends is a bad practice - a very bad one actually - it shouldnt even be contemplated let alone approved - who was the BRAIN behind that decision - Do you need Donald? Or do you have someone there who can fire him/her with style? A person that is capable of regurgitating such garbage certainly can come up with a lot worse - kill it with fire before it breeds. Seriously... its a terrible idea.

About today's downtime... you all whiners shut up. They're preparing for launch, fixing stuff and getting all that ready... they fixed so much in this last month its almost unbelievable - show some respect for their work - I'm from europe, stop with those "prime time" bs comments... who cares about your prime time? Cant you understand? The US guys have been without playing for 10 hours just a day ago while we just collected the fruits of their patch - we should consider ourselves lucky we only have 3 hours downtime - plus its thursday I'm sure you can endure one night and then you'll have all weekend and week to play the game... just go watch a movie, read a book, get laid for the first time, I dont know... so much stuff for you guys to do... The game will be up in no time - just relax and let zenimax do their job and then you can play all the time you want - just let them RELEASE THE GAME OK? DO YOU LET THEM RELEASE THE GAME? Thanks... I'm sure Zenimax will thank you guys also for letting them release their game...

dswiecacub18_ESO

My client just started dl patch, hopefully server will be up soon

raglau

Yes, this idea is mind-bogglingly bad. I am thinking I may raise a support ticket to get it into the system somehow. I genuinely think this needs bringing to Z's attention because they'll definitely lose customers over this one. Someone has not had their thinking cap on here.

Tandor wrote: »

Thinking about it a little more, the absurdity of taking down the EU megaserver at players' prime time on a Sunday morning could be better understood if it was a convenient (for which read "cheap") time for the maintenance team - but as I understand it, the maintenance is planned on a regular basis for the team at 4:00 am on a Sunday - can there be a worse time to ask people to work, let alone a more expensive one? It's not like you even tell us how long the maintenance is planned to take. Late morning? Mid-afternoon?

raykai12000b16_ESO

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, pass the to the next person in this post

sajackson

Is there any reason why they can't schedule the maintenance for the servers independently? I thought that would have been one of the advantages of having separate NA & EU servers.

Grageeky

raykai12000b16_ESO wrote: »

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, pass the to the next person in this post

raykai12000b16_ESO

sajackson wrote: »

Is there any reason why they can't schedule the maintenance for the servers independently? I thought that would have been one of the advantages of having separate NA & EU servers.

well i think they will but: The North American and European megaservers will first be hosted in North America. This gives us a more efficient way to address any platform issues that may arise at launch. After the initial launch phase is over, we will move the European megaserver to the European datacenter.

what i think there doing now is moving the EU servers from North American datacenters to European datacenters!

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/14/eso-road-ahead?ref=news-list