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So as i am pouring through my 7 accounts on the first day of crates
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ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »Keep track of everything you get in your free crates (including gems for items you turned back in). Replace the crates in the monthly reward listing with those items. Now look at the month again, pretending it had those items instead of crates. What would you think of a month like that? My guess is most people would be quite pleased.
The "preview" crate is a guaranteed non-combat pet. So, at the very least, you are getting a non-combat pet and a bunch of gems. I think if the crate week had been replaced with a bunch of gems and a non-combat pet, people would be like, "Nice! Great week!" And that is the minimum you are getting. You will likely get something from the other crates: a hat, a costume, an emote, etc.
But instead everyone seems angry they did not get a Radiant Apex mount from the first crate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No not angry i didnt get a radiant apex mount. i did get a mount. just some things are offensive to me.0 -
Blkadr✭✭✭✭I've always suspected... they put better RNG in the free crates than in the ones for sale because people get something not a potion and say hey, these are ok after all, so I will just go and buy some...
And then they get crappy stuff from the bought ones but they already bought some so now they have to buy more because they know those good items are in there. After all, they got them from the free crates.1 -
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"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....3 -
ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭i missed one screenshot in my fatigue state but i def got gloomspore pets all around and 3 cards.
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so these first two show the discrepancy between what it costs to buy an item with gems and what you get in gems if you gemify that same item. quite a markdown on that payout.
this very last photo shows an outfit a mount and a pet. my very low level khajiit with a striped fur pattern wears that so called climbing outfit that no woman could ever climb in. climbing requires short and sensible shoes not sandals. who climbs in sandals? anyway previoulsy she got the black dye and it looks nice on her white fur and black stripes. That toon now has a fancy mount, clothes and pet. very nice.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
But aren't these things in the game anyway? What makes the difference whether these are seen on NPCs and as furniture in zone design or somewhere unused in your menu? No criticism, just wondering.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake6 -
SgtWinnie✭✭✭I'm glad you stuck with it. I got about 10 ish accts in and decided the rewards were simply not worth the frustration of logging in [especially on EU] and left the rest of them.
I think it's more for newer people tbh. Nothing I would spend money on personally but as stated many times before it's just a little reward for simple logging in, a participation reward if you will.
Happy to see some folks got some stuff they wanted or at the very least gems to spend.
Not sure anything in the crates I would list as offensive but each to there own.0 -
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✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »
also got a hackey sack emote which i forgot to screenshot. uses a charrus egg and they cal it an egg scramble
Hacky Sack? Oh, you mean keepie-uppie, surely?
I love my keepie-uppie emote
Alchemy says "Hi".1 -
ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
But aren't these things in the game anyway? What makes the difference whether these are seen on NPCs and as furniture in zone design or somewhere unused in your menu? No criticism, just wondering.
what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.
Of course, but I don't understand how a random piece of furniture that you can destroy (or exchange against crown gems) immediately is different to a piece of furniture somewhere else in-game? Or a body marking that's somewhere in the menu to choose, but you never have to choose it when you dislike it (I'm not a fan of them, btw, never use them either). It might be there, but it can just be ignored if disliked.
I understand that one might not be happy if one gets items related to another religion handed out without asking for them, is that what causes your sentiment? In my case that only related to real-world religions (so basically missionizing unasked for, like religious writings deliberately thrown in my mailbox, etc), because there is actually an intention to interfere in my way of life (other than a fictional person belonging to a fictional religion in a fictional narration - I doubt ZOS really wants anyone to become a worshipper of Zenithar, Sheogorath or the Tribunal), and while I see it as disrespectful, I just discard these things (or in case it has a worth to someone, then search for someone who wants it and gift it) and move on - but indeed everyone has their own opinion about that.
Edited by Syldras on February 12, 2024 6:56PM@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake2 -
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✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
But aren't these things in the game anyway? What makes the difference whether these are seen on NPCs and as furniture in zone design or somewhere unused in your menu? No criticism, just wondering.
what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.
Yes but can you really say that something has been forced upon you if it was given away for free? You still have the choice to use or not use, that which you have been given.
I see you got the Gloomspore Senche mount. I love that mount! Congrats Your Mint Swamp Jelly pet is also super cool! Alchemy says "Hi".1 -
ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.
Of course, but I don't understand how a random piece of furniture that you can destroy (or exchange against crown gems) immediately is different to a piece of furniture somewhere else in-game? Or a body marking that's somewhere in the menu to choose, but you never have to choose it when you dislike it (I'm not a fan of them, btw, never use them either). It might be there, but it can just be ignored if disliked.
I understand that one might not be happy if one gets items related to another religion handed out without asking for them, is that what causes your sentiment? In my case that only related to real-world religions (so basically missionizing unasked for, like religious writings deliberately thrown in my mailbox, etc), because there is actually an intention to interfere in my way of life (other than a fictional person belonging to a fictional religion in a fictional narration - I doubt ZOS really wants anyone to become a worshipper of Zenithar, Sheogorath or the Tribunal), and while I see it as disrespectful, I just discard these things (or in case it has a worth to someone, then search for someone who wants it and gift it) and move on - but indeed everyone has their own opinion about that.
i dont know where you live by=ut here in the usa those things in your mailboxes were delivered by the post carrier. People with literature generally put it in a bag and put it on your door knob.
emotes can not be discarded or gemified unless you have a double of them. same goes with body markings. they are in your inventory under their perspective slots and i do not like posessing such things. Imagine you brought religious material and forced me to display it in my home and i was forbidden to throw it away. eeek. offensive. but truly i dont need to explain why i find it offensive. your approval is neither desired or required. that i find it offensive is justification enough. i have no requirement on me to satisfy your value system. if it's offensive to mine, that is enough of a justification to not have it or keep it.0 -
ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭Shara_Wynn wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
But aren't these things in the game anyway? What makes the difference whether these are seen on NPCs and as furniture in zone design or somewhere unused in your menu? No criticism, just wondering.
what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.
Yes but can you really say that something has been forced upon you if it was given away for free? You still have the choice to use or not use, that which you have been given.
I see you got the Gloomspore Senche mount. I love that mount! Congrats Your Mint Swamp Jelly pet is also super cool!
yes i can. because i cant by my own agency throw it away if i dont wish to possess it..
yah i like swamp jelly and lunar moth. ty.0 -
ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭just as an aside. i had a neighbor tell me she felt called to offer me some quartz crystals. having been a teenager once and learned about new age material i know what those crystals are for. i declined. they are not part of my experience and i dont want them. now imagine if she put them in my home after i told her i dont want them and discovered them some time later. offensive. that she likes them and wishes to possess them is no problem for me. not my business. if she want to discuss with me her crystals i'll probably be polite because i'm really not a jerk. but if she tries to compel me to meditate with her, that will likely be the last time we speak about anything. offensive.0
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✭✭✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »i dont know where you live by=ut here in the usa those things in your mailboxes were delivered by the post carrier. People with literature generally put it in a bag and put it on your door knob.
Europe. Mailboxes here at just, well, a square or rectangular metal container with a slot on the upper side, often situated in front of buildings or attached to a garden fence. Everyone can potentially stop by and throw something in. And people do, mostly normal commercial ads, but occationally there's also something political or the newsletter of the local church, whether one is a member of their community or not. And smaller religious groups are another thing, they do sometimes throw their stuff in, too. It's the most normal thing here to take a bunch of stuff out of your mailbox, browse it, take what's interesting or important, and throw the rest into the next trashcan.ClowdyAllDay wrote: »but truly i dont need to explain why i find it offensive. your approval is neither desired or required. that i find it offensive is justification enough. i have no requirement on me to satisfy your value system.
You don't have to do anything, but labeling genuine interest to understand people of different cultures and beliefs as vile is not the friendliest thing to do, to be honest.ClowdyAllDay wrote: »just as an aside. i had a neighbor tell me she felt called to offer me some quartz crystals. having been a teenager once and learned about new age material i know what those crystals are for.
As a crystal and fossil collector for about 30 years, I put them into my cabinet. Other people just use them for decoration. That might be the reasons that if someone offered me a specimen, I'd not suspect it to have any religious background.ClowdyAllDay wrote: »i now imagine if she put them in my home after i told her i dont want them and discovered them some time later.
That is rude, we don't disagree when it comes to that. There are probably two aspects where our opinion differs (and that's completely fine): I personally indeed see a difference between a digital thing somewhere that I can just ignore and doesn't take up real physical space in my home and a real, tangible item. Also, I don't see fictional religions in a game as in any way related to my real-world beliefs and real-world missionizing. It's an entirely different thing for me, a narration, there's no intention to really make people change their religion. - But, as I said, we can agree to disagree. I was just interested why you find game items easily ignored offensive, that was all.
Edited by Syldras on February 12, 2024 8:47PM@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake6 -
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✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »Shara_Wynn wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
But aren't these things in the game anyway? What makes the difference whether these are seen on NPCs and as furniture in zone design or somewhere unused in your menu? No criticism, just wondering.
what someone else choose to do with their religion is none of my business what someone else forces upon me is my business and is offensive.
Yes but can you really say that something has been forced upon you if it was given away for free? You still have the choice to use or not use, that which you have been given.
I see you got the Gloomspore Senche mount. I love that mount! Congrats Your Mint Swamp Jelly pet is also super cool!
yes i can. because i cant by my own agency throw it away if i dont wish to possess it..
yah i like swamp jelly and lunar moth. ty.
You could always choose to simply not open the crown crates. That way you would never know if there were any offending religious materials or body markings therein.
There is so much religion in TES. It is woven into the very fabric of the entire lore behind the game. I think it would be very difficult, nigh impossible, to avoid it completely. It is everywhere.
Also, none of it really exists
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✭✭I opened all my free crates today. Got nothing noteworthy or useful or wanted. I now have 32 more crown gems though.Edited by JustLovely on February 13, 2024 3:54PM1 -
Jarl_Ironheart✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Jarl_Ironheart wrote: »ClowdyAllDay wrote: »i find much is useless, some is offensive, and some is just not desired. I dont mean to seem ungrateful, it';s just that prayer beads and body are i find offensive. durzogs are gross. and what's left over so far is just normal daily login stuff like potions which are ok but the poisons i gemify. i wish i could gemify some body art and prayer beads. still have 3 accounts to go so hopefully something interesting emerges...
My friend I agree. The loot boxes in ESO are so bad. 90% of the time you get nothing but trash pots, mimic stones or similar crap that no one needs. I have 1200 tri potions and like 300 crown meals from these things.
Why wouldn’t you exchange them for Gems then??? I’m not saying the loot boxes are great — I don’t know any game in which they are. I remember liking in SWTOR that the rewards were not bound so I felt it worthwhile to buy a pack on release as I could sell what I didn’t want. I felt the GW2 loot boxes were worse because junk items could not be exchanged and many items were bound so I don’t think I ever bought them unless they came with some guaranteed item I wanted. ESO’s are better in several respects, but I don’t buy them unless there are many things I like in a particular set or I need just a few more Gems for something I do want. If you go in with realistic expectations then you won’t be disappointed and you may be pleasantly surprised. I’m not saying people should buy crates, but each must decide if and when it is worth it. But definitely don’t complain when they are free!
I do exchange them and most are from years ago when I was younger and didn't really understand exchanging them so I didn't. I missed my window unfortunately. Anything I get now I definitely exchange, still feel short of gems though. I would love to exchange mounts or costumes also, I have so many unwanted ones.Push Posh Applesauce, Pocket Full of Marmalade.0 -
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✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »How are some things offensive? And which, I don't see anything offensive in the crates and I doubt ZOS would release crates with offensive things in them. Even more so when these crates is almost 3 years old.
I like getting free crates, there's not a single downside to getting them instead of some research or xp scroll. Can get some cosmetic I don't have and if not I will always get at least a few gems.
religious symbols and body markings are offensive to me.
For a fantasy game with fantasy cosmetics, I have to say I find this person's take very bizarre. I'm assuming people who feel this extreme way over having random items unlocked in their cosmetics menu are quite rare.Edited by AScarlato on February 13, 2024 7:20PM7
