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Retreating Maneuver

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Mobilize your forces, granting Major Expedition to you and your group, increasing your Movement Speed by 30% for 8 seconds. Attacks from behind deal 15% less damage while this effect persists.
New effect
Attacks made against you from behind deal less damage while this effect persists.



I never actually read this. I wonder in Really high damage areas as a tank you could pop it and turn around. Plus trying to rez someone while taking extreme damage. I am gonna have some fun with this.

I have always had Charging Maneuver and had not looked in ages.


Assuming a staple in PVP. Not a PVP'er so not sure.

Edited by ElderSmitter on February 2, 2024 9:53PM
  • Nihilr
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    Mobilize your forces, granting Major Expedition to you and your group, increasing your Movement Speed by 30% for 8 seconds. Attacks from behind deal 15% less damage while this effect persists.
    New effect
    Attacks made against you from behind deal less damage while this effect persists.



    I never actually read this. I wonder in Really high damage areas as a tank you could pop it and turn around. Plus trying to rez someone while taking extreme damage. I am gonna have some fun with this.

    I have always had Charging Maneuver and had not looked in ages.


    Assuming a staple in PVP. Not a PVP'er so not sure.

    They may make it for "player damage only", but if not--then I'd easily slot it as a tank/healer.
  • ElderSmitter
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    Nihilr wrote: »
    Mobilize your forces, granting Major Expedition to you and your group, increasing your Movement Speed by 30% for 8 seconds. Attacks from behind deal 15% less damage while this effect persists.
    New effect
    Attacks made against you from behind deal less damage while this effect persists.



    I never actually read this. I wonder in Really high damage areas as a tank you could pop it and turn around. Plus trying to rez someone while taking extreme damage. I am gonna have some fun with this.

    I have always had Charging Maneuver and had not looked in ages.


    Assuming a staple in PVP. Not a PVP'er so not sure.

    They may make it for "player damage only", but if not--then I'd easily slot it as a tank/healer.

    It is def a PVP Skill it is in the Assault Skill Line. but i don't think so. It has been around for a while. I just never noticed lol.
    Edited by ElderSmitter on February 2, 2024 11:22PM
  • SkaraMinoc
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    New effect
    Attacks made against you from behind deal less damage while this effect persists.[/b]

    This "New effect" is already how it works today. You take 15% less damage from any players or monsters behind you.

    In PvP, it works well on a Stam Sorc with low max health, high max stamina running 2H or Ice Staff backbar because spamming Race Against Time every 4 seconds requires at least (1 mag recovery line + 1 light) or (0 mag recovery line + 2 light). This isn't ideal on wd/sd and crit damage builds so running Retreating Maneuver can be a better option since Dark Deal refunds most of the cost anyways.

    Edited by SkaraMinoc on February 2, 2024 11:35PM
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    Just keep in mind that it’s a 90-degree back cone, not the full 180 degrees. If something is attacking you from behind but to your right or left (back flank), it won’t offer that protection.
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Just keep in mind that it’s a 90-degree back cone, not the full 180 degrees. If something is attacking you from behind but to your right or left (back flank), it won’t offer that protection.

    I can confirm this is correct.

    I just verified in game that Retreating Maneuver is a 90 degree cone from behind. However, I also tested Camouflaged Hunter and it's a full 180 degrees behind the player. So if you attack a player from the side but a few degrees behind, it will proc Camo Hunter's Minor Berserk. You must move within the 90 degree cone directly behind the player for the damage mitigation to take effect.

    Dn9RxTZ.png

    :smile:

    Edited by SkaraMinoc on February 5, 2024 1:13AM
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  • virtus753
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    Just keep in mind that it’s a 90-degree back cone, not the full 180 degrees. If something is attacking you from behind but to your right or left (back flank), it won’t offer that protection.

    I can confirm this is correct.

    I just verified in game that Retreating Maneuver is a 90 degree cone from behind. However, I also tested Camouflaged Hunter and it's a full 180 degrees behind the player. So if you attack a player from the side but a few degrees behind, it will proc Camo Hunter's Minor Berserk. You must move within the 90 degree cone directly behind the player for the damage mitigation to take effect.

    Dn9RxTZ.png

    :smile:

    Thanks for the diagram!

    Camo Hunter is actually a 270-degree cone because "flank" covers the back, left, and right 90-degree cones. It only doesn't work in the front 90-degree cone.
  • ElderSmitter
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    After reading everyone's comments i switched back to Charging Maneuver for Major and Minor expo for my tank. Thank you for the testing.
    Edited by ElderSmitter on February 5, 2024 7:52AM
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