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Why is the Golden always on time but Luxury Vendor late?

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  • Araneae6537
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    Because Cyrodiil observes this ridiculous mortal concept of “daylight savings” while Coldharbour does not (yes, he’s now in Craglorn as well, but he’s still on Oblivion time :p )
  • Marto
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    For the same reason many things in online games and services are staggered.

    Helps lower the load on the server so everyone has a good experience, and prevents things from breaking too much.
    If and when things do break, it's easier for the devs to check logs and find what broke.
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  • Varana
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    Ah, the astonishing amazingness of Adhazabi Aba-daro assures she's always attendant at the appropriate hour.
    Unlike some other, less affluent vendors.

    Zanil Theran needs to haul much bigger items around so he takes longer.
  • katanagirl1
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    Because Cyrodiil observes this ridiculous mortal concept of “daylight savings” while Coldharbour does not (yes, he’s now in Craglorn as well, but he’s still on Oblivion time :p )

    I see you are using humor to make light of the situation and I can appreciate that.

    The irony is that where I live we do not do Daylight Savings and so they both should show up at the same time for me every week and most of the time they do, but maybe 2-3 times a year Luxury Guy is exactly one hour late.
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  • Araneae6537
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    Because Cyrodiil observes this ridiculous mortal concept of “daylight savings” while Coldharbour does not (yes, he’s now in Craglorn as well, but he’s still on Oblivion time :p )

    I see you are using humor to make light of the situation and I can appreciate that.

    The irony is that where I live we do not do Daylight Savings and so they both should show up at the same time for me every week and most of the time they do, but maybe 2-3 times a year Luxury Guy is exactly one hour late.

    Well that is weird and I don’t have an explanation — humorous or otherwise. 🤔 I had thought that for whatever coding reason the timing of the Golden Vendor changed with DS but the Luxury Vendor did not, based on when I see BenevolentBowd’s threads appear and on random observations when I happen to be in the Hollow City at the time.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    It's the servers internal clock, some functions do not deviate from the standard 24 hours and activate like clockwork regardless of any timezone changes. Other things they will manually change to make it always happen at the same time when Daylight Savings roll into effect in the States.
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    It's the servers internal clock, some functions do not deviate from the standard 24 hours and activate like clockwork regardless of any timezone changes. Other things they will manually change to make it always happen at the same time when Daylight Savings roll into effect in the States.

    Daylight Savings started round Halloween though, not this past week.
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  • Grizzbeorn
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    Daylight Savings started round Halloween though, not this past week.

    Daylight Saving ENDED at that time. We are on Standard Time now through sometime in March.
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      The answer is obvious. The Golden only has to carry helmets/shoulders and trinkets. EZPZ The Luxury furnisher has to carry giant items of all sorts. I am surprised they have the energy to trade once they get into place!
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      The golden has to be swift and on time or else she could end up in prison, how else do you think she got them items?
    • katanagirl1
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      Daylight Savings started round Halloween though, not this past week.

      Daylight Saving ENDED at that time. We are on Standard Time now through sometime in March.

      Oh sorry I get confused because my time relative to others always changes.

      My point was that if Luxury Guy was showing up at a different time because of that I would have had that problem back then, not now.

      EDIT: it’s doubly confusing because people who are in Eastern Time will say EST regardless of whether they are on standard time or daylight savings.
      Edited by katanagirl1 on December 18, 2023 7:48PM
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    • katanagirl1
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      Luxury Guy is late again.
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    • vgabor
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      Well, the Golden is in a military camp, the Luxury is in a lawless wasteland, it's pretty obvious where punctuality matter :D
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      He is a luxury vendor. A rather highbrow fellow. He has places to go. People to see. He considers us lucky he bothers to bless us with his presence.

    • Kisakee
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      To give a serious answer (like the jokes though): Technical reasons.

      Option 1: They don't want massive server load due to tons of people rushing to those maps to prevent instance problems if both spawn at the same time.

      Option 2: There's a software problem when both spawn at the same time which may break somehing so they just do it one after another.
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    • katanagirl1
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      Kisakee wrote: »
      To give a serious answer (like the jokes though): Technical reasons.

      Option 1: They don't want massive server load due to tons of people rushing to those maps to prevent instance problems if both spawn at the same time.

      Option 2: There's a software problem when both spawn at the same time which may break somehing so they just do it one after another.

      They are supposed to appear at the same time each week, and most of the time they do. There is a bug that is causing Luxury Guy to sometimes appear one hour later. I wanted to post each time I see this happen until they figure out why.

      However, my trials group is starting back up in one week so I won’t be able to visit either until later in the evening.
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    • SgtWinnie
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    • reazea
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      One vendor is set to GMT time that doesn't do seasonal time change. The other vendor is set to US time and does recognize the seasonal time change.

      Personally I think the US should do away with seasonal time change.
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      reazea wrote: »
      One vendor is set to GMT time that doesn't do seasonal time change. The other vendor is set to US time and does recognize the seasonal time change.

      Personally I think the US should do away with seasonal time change.

      You might be onto something.

      I just looked this up and according to UESP the Golden times are listed as midnight Friday to noon Monday GMT and the Luxury Vendor as 1am Friday to noon Monday UTC.

      Note that GMT is the same as UTC and neither takes daylight savings into account.

      https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Zanil_Theran

      https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Adhazabi_Aba-daro

      That being said, I am always MST so the times should never change for me, yet I swear I have been to Luxury Vendor at 5pm MST (which is 0 GMT) multiple times and he was there. I suppose I could be mistaken but I feel certain about this.
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    • TaSheen
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      reazea wrote: »
      One vendor is set to GMT time that doesn't do seasonal time change. The other vendor is set to US time and does recognize the seasonal time change.

      Personally I think the US should do away with seasonal time change.

      I live in the US and I think so too. However, most of the discussion is to make DST permanent instead of making real time permanent. I'm not okay with that, because my body hates DST and always has....
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      TaSheen wrote: »
      reazea wrote: »
      One vendor is set to GMT time that doesn't do seasonal time change. The other vendor is set to US time and does recognize the seasonal time change.

      Personally I think the US should do away with seasonal time change.

      I live in the US and I think so too. However, most of the discussion is to make DST permanent instead of making real time permanent. I'm not okay with that, because my body hates DST and always has....

      I also prefer DST to standard time. That way we have more daylight in the evenings, when we can enjoy it.
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      reazea wrote: »
      TaSheen wrote: »
      reazea wrote: »
      One vendor is set to GMT time that doesn't do seasonal time change. The other vendor is set to US time and does recognize the seasonal time change.

      Personally I think the US should do away with seasonal time change.

      I live in the US and I think so too. However, most of the discussion is to make DST permanent instead of making real time permanent. I'm not okay with that, because my body hates DST and always has....

      I also prefer DST to standard time. That way we have more daylight in the evenings, when we can enjoy it.

      I don't go anywhere or do anything in the evening. Actually, I'd love it if it was always dark.... hate sunshine and daylight.
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      The real answer is daylights savings and that one follows it the other doesn't. Weird that they're coded differently but here we are.

      They do both show up at the same time for about half the year haha.
      Edited by Soarora on December 30, 2023 10:38PM
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