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Can you at least fix this... no one wants to play anything if the wait is this long.

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Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on September 16, 2023 3:33AM
  • wrrn519_ESO
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    This is nothing by the way of time, I just wanted to post this during dungeon event.
  • ArchMikem
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    A general understanding that propagated is to leave and re-queue if you've been waiting for more than 15 minutes. Back when I first heard of that it had something to do with your queue being bugged/stuck if it takes that long so it's good to just retry. That said has no evidence to prove, it's like a wife's tale.

    Also that said, people just need to role more Tank and Healer characters, to make a balance. Alas, everyone just wants to hit things.
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  • ixthUA
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    If you queue as tank its instant.
  • alternatelder
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    ixthUA wrote: »
    If you queue as tank its instant.

    :|
  • svendf
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    ixthUA wrote: »
    If you queue as tank its instant.

    Resistance 16k -17k and 18k-20k health, will never be a tank and be able to controll a hard hitter. Too many dd´s and few group´s will bring a long que. Try to do a premade, it´s better.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    I remember this being an issue 15 years ago in WoW. And in every other MMO with a queue system & role-based party composition.

    There's nothing that ZoS can do to "fix" the issue that most people make DPS, and not enough Tanks/Healers queue for random dungeons.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    You should never be in a queue for > 15 minutes. Definitely ridiculous. BUT, I’d highly recommend requeueing in the future! Give it 10 minutes, and if there’s no pop, drop and redo it.
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  • endgamesmug
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    I get max 15min que time as dps
  • muscle_witch
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    A general understanding that propagated is to leave and re-queue if you've been waiting for more than 15 minutes. Back when I first heard of that it had something to do with your queue being bugged/stuck if it takes that long so it's good to just retry. That said has no evidence to prove, it's like a wife's tale.

    Also that said, people just need to role more Tank and Healer characters, to make a balance. Alas, everyone just wants to hit things.

    We also lost a lot of tanks because of the block bugs
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    It's a created problem that could be easily solved by making ESO a true TES game and removing the trinity which is an antiquated unfun concept.
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  • kojou
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    I give it about 5 minutes and then I requeue...

    I think sometimes it bugs out, but I am too impatient to wait for 15 minutes let alone over an hour. If you are in a group of 2 or more, you can also switch leaders and re-queue as that seems to have an impact. It might also all be coincidence...

    I also would like to see a feature where if you are waiting for more than 15 minutes the queue would give you the option to run with a companion tank.
    Edited by kojou on September 12, 2023 1:17PM
    Playing since beta...
  • exoib
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    A general understanding that propagated is to leave and re-queue if you've been waiting for more than 15 minutes. Back when I first heard of that it had something to do with your queue being bugged/stuck if it takes that long so it's good to just retry. That said has no evidence to prove, it's like a wife's tale.

    Also that said, people just need to role more Tank and Healer characters, to make a balance. Alas, everyone just wants to hit things.

    We also lost a lot of tanks because of the block bugs

    Most good tanks I know also DD, including me, I have 7 tanks, done all dungeons and trials with hardmodes. People leave because of the game's direction not coz of one bug. But I agree something as fundamental as blocking should've been fixed with high priority over anything else, but it lingered around for months, just shows how little they care.
    Edited by exoib on September 12, 2023 1:54PM
  • Jaimeh
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    Out of curiosity, was the dungeon also the daily pledge? Generally, I only queue on a DD character for dungeons that are the daily pledge dungeons, because the queue time is usually not that long, but if I want to do a dungeon that's not in any of the pledges for that day, then I queue with a support character.
  • belial5221_ESO
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    Specific dungeons,especially vet DLC ones will have longer queues.Best to requeue every 20 minutes incase you stuck in loop,or jsut spam chat in different zones for group.
  • Tsukyme
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    funny thing, i have all 3 roles, and still any of em i play i get long queues , even on my pvp chars at BGs does the same its either that or the bottle is getting empty
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  • belial5221_ESO
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    I get in on both PCEU and PCNA within 5-10 minutes as DD in normal randoms during event,and about 10-15 minutes non event.Like I said,vet and DLC specific queues will always be longer,unless there's a specific new thing to get.Also there is a bug that sometimes hits and you have to requeue after about 20 minutes to keep in the loop.Also,weekdays,and certain hours you play at can make it longer.If you always have issues,spam zone,or join guilds that do what you like.
    Edited by belial5221_ESO on September 12, 2023 2:55PM
  • kargen27
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    During the event players that would normally queue for a random are queuing for FG1 for the quick run. People that want to run a specific dungeon are experiencing longer wait times as a result. I wanted to run some pledges on a healer that can't do vet mode yet. Couldn't get a group. Soon as I added FG1 to the queue I got a group.
    Queuing for vet pledges I have been getting groups in a decent amount of time.
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  • disintegr8
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    Funny thing is that we're nearly always waiting for a DD to accept the dungeon ready check.
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  • kringled_1
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Funny thing is that we're nearly always waiting for a DD to accept the dungeon ready check.

    That's understandable really. The supports have short queues and the ready check is often seconds after they queued in the first place. The dds have usually longer queues, and are much more likely to be in combat/briefly afk/etc when the ready check happens.
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    ixthUA wrote: »
    If you queue as tank its instant.

    Uuhhh :/ ..... Yeah, great joke :disappointed: . Vet DLC Dungeon, fake tank queueing with a DD :angry: ?! That would be pure stupidity!!! The group would kick that one or disband the group itself faster than light needs for traveling 1km *muhahaha* :mrgreen: !


    Specific dungeons,especially vet DLC ones will have longer queues.Best to requeue every 20 minutes incase you stuck in loop,or jsut spam chat in different zones for group.

    Jup... Especially if the DLC-Dungeon is on Vet-Mode. You will only find a few randoms doing that.


    Regarding the queue time matter. So far I had no problems getting a pop with my DD within 25min during EU prime time phase (between 17:00 and 0:00 german time zone). I only needed to relist once, because the queue bugged out on me by poping and kicking me out at the same time, without me doing anything :confused: .

  • Twohothardware
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    They need to re-think the way Dungeons are developed so that you're not forced into needing the formula of 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 DD or they need to give great incentive to play a support role in the game.

    If it weren't for all the fake tanks right now the dungeon queue would be a lot longer than it is.
  • Michaelkeir
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    This might may or may not be helpful to you but what I did to circumvent this was just create a duel spec using Armory Assistant’s, and have the 2nd spec as a tank. I did this to all my dps characters. That way I can skip the que and still perform my role.

    It’s the best workaround other than forming your own group and queuing or soloing it for the rewards.

    Having the ability to summon the armor assistant makes this process even smoother. Que as a tank while you running around in your dps spec, Que pops, summon the armory assistant, change builds, run dungeon. Profit.
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    This might may or may not be helpful to you but what I did to circumvent this was just create a duel spec using Armory Assistant’s, and have the 2nd spec as a tank. I did this to all my dps characters. That way I can skip the que and still perform my role.

    It’s the best workaround other than forming your own group and queuing or soloing it for the rewards.

    Having the ability to summon the armor assistant makes this process even smoother. Que as a tank while you running around in your dps spec, Que pops, summon the armory assistant, change builds, run dungeon. Profit.
    On pc dressing room works even better I say but it can not turn an dps into an tank but it can turn an magic dd into an healer, at multiple levels. Or you dd get more self heals if no healer and needed.
    For random normals I say roles are not an requirement, yes in many normal dlc its very nice and and weak group might easy fail there without roles.
    The original dungeon pledges I say is not much harder than newer normal dlc even in HM.
    But if you pug at least slot an taunt or a heal for the cp 200 guy in crap gear.
    Vet dlc, organized group unless very good and some kinks 😺
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • peacenote
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    A general understanding that propagated is to leave and re-queue if you've been waiting for more than 15 minutes. Back when I first heard of that it had something to do with your queue being bugged/stuck if it takes that long so it's good to just retry. That said has no evidence to prove, it's like a wife's tale.

    Also that said, people just need to role more Tank and Healer characters, to make a balance. Alas, everyone just wants to hit things.

    While anecdotal, I can confirm that this sometimes works for me. I have even had this happen queuing as a tank. Recently.

    So probably not a magic bullet but definitely worth a try.
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  • Ragnarok0130
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    ixthUA wrote: »
    If you queue as tank its instant.

    He should ensure he's actually a tank if he doesn't want to be kicked.
  • ZOS_Hadeostry
    Greetings,

    After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's related to dungeons.

    Thank you for your understanding
    Staff Post
  • AvalonRanger
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    1, Just do it with guild real tank member.
    2, Or, you become the real tank.
    3, Don't be fake tank or fake healer...and useless DD.

    Many times people keep making these type of thread, but no more.
    Problem solved already.

    Well, U40 will bring new group finder. If you don't need real tank or healer,
    then search 4 DD style group at there when you get U40.

    Personally...I think that real 1tank - real 2DD - real 1healer are always best.

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  • ixthUA
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    Uuhhh :/ ..... Yeah, great joke :disappointed: . Vet DLC Dungeon, fake tank queueing with a DD :angry: ?! That would be pure stupidity!!! The group would kick that one or disband the group itself faster than light needs for traveling 1km *muhahaha* :mrgreen: !

    Life pro tip: you dont need to be a fake tank to queue as tank.
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