Please ZOS, let us buy the Jubilee Cake for the years we missed.

Natsirt812

I'm asking ZOS to make it possible to buy Jubilee Cake mementos from the same year as the account was created, using event tickets. My proposal is as follows:

- If a person's account was created on May 5, 2020 (for the release of Greymoor, for example), they would be able to buy the memento Jubilee Cake 2020 released from April 2 to 14 during the event of the same name, as well as those for 2021, 2022 and 2023. This would allow those who purchased ESO after the chapter's release to obtain the corresponding year's Jubilee Cake.

- The same person would NOT be able to buy the 2019 Jubilee Cake, or any of the previous Cakes from a year in which they had not yet played ESO.

To me, Jubilee Cakes are testaments to the time players have spent on ESO, and I don't think there would be any flaws in implementing what I've cited above. They could be sold by Philius Dormier (the Event Merchant's Assistant).

I hope everyone is doing well, and I look forward to seeing what you think of this.

Braffin

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

Stanx

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

Braffin

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

But you can indeed buy these furnishings during the anniversary event.

TaSheen

Braffin wrote: »

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

But you can indeed buy these furnishings during the anniversary event.

Not for years when you didn't participate. That's the complaint.

Didn't we have this almost identical thread last month?

Stanx

Braffin wrote: »

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

But you can indeed buy these furnishings during the anniversary event.

Yeah but only for the events you participated in. OPs point is that in theory you could have joined one day after the event in 2019 and not be eligible to purchase the 2019 cake during the future events.

Braffin

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

But you can indeed buy these furnishings during the anniversary event.

Yeah but only for the events you participated in. OPs point is that in theory you could have joined one day after the event in 2019 and not be eligible to purchase the 2019 cake during the future events.

Well, when you joined after the event, there isn't really a need to celebrate the time between anniversary 2018 and 2019, is it? At least I for myself don't celebrate my birthdays in advance.

16BitForestCat

I've gotten cakes for every year of the event, and I would love for people who missed out on cakes to get them. Even if it costs more tickets to buy the cakes for years you couldn't/didn't earn them, if people think it's "more fair" to go that route. (I'm in the camp of, "Let people have all the cakes they want from all the years for the same price," personally, but I don't care if other people have the same nice things I do. Heck, I *want* everyone to have the same nice things! I'm not an elitist.)

LunaFlora

i Love the jubilee cakes. let everyone have cakes.

Natsirt812

TaSheen wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Stanx wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I think they're referring to the furnishings for your house

But you can indeed buy these furnishings during the anniversary event.

Not for years when you didn't participate. That's the complaint.

Didn't we have this almost identical thread last month?

Yes that's what I'm talking about (sorry for not responding)

It's a good thing we can buy the furnishings of the jubilee cake we have even after the related event, but we should also be able to obtain the cake we didn't get. Once again, I'm not talking about cake from previous years.

@ZOS_Kevin , @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Is it possible that you pass on this request to the dev team, to see if it's possible or not ?

Kiralyn2000

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

Personally, I think they're a testament to the events you participated in. So of course you should only have access to ones you actually got.
(and yes, there's some I missed)

NoOneSpecial

Only fruitcakes last that long.

FeedbackOnly

Or the years we were here but was confused on how quest worked as year 1 and 2 were vouchers

Amottica

While I do not consider the cakes to be a big deal, I do respect game offerings that were only offered in-game during a given period and are never offered again.

The Senche Mount that was supposedly given to players for free if they subscribed during the first year of the game is a great example of what I speak of. It makes it very special. The cakes, while not as big of a deal IMO, falls into that same category. So if someone was not around, and especially if it was before they played the game, then it would not be available to them.

FeedbackOnly

Amottica wrote: »

While I do not consider the cakes to be a big deal, I do respect game offerings that were only offered in-game during a given period and are never offered again.

The Senche Mount that was supposedly given to players for free if they subscribed during the first year of the game is a great example of what I speak of. It makes it very special. The cakes, while not as big of a deal IMO, falls into that same category. So if someone was not around, and especially if it was before they played the game, then it would not be available to them.

What if they were around though? The first year this was confusing how to do the event especially for new players

LikiLoki

I don't have the opportunity to purchase one cake. I don't mind if such an opportunity arises. But I don't want to destroy these achievements of other players who deserved the cake. I would suggest that the "missed cakes" have be without visual glow.

NordSwordnBoard

I get it, you join the day before the event you get a year anniversary reward for when you didn't even own the game. You join a year before the event but miss it, and lost out.

Unfortunately, I missed gold jewelry in the vendor from a dungeon last weekend and I may never see it again unless I craft it. That's my fault.

I'm not sure the sorting out part of this will be easy enough to implement. The OP argument pretty much is giving rewards to non participants. Which non participants are eligible? I'm ok with free cake, even for the undeserving or unworthy lol. It just creeps towards the whole "slippery slope" stuff. I really doubt it would happen.

whitecrow

The point of it being acquirable is to show that you participated.

Natsirt812

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

I get it, you join the day before the event you get a year anniversary reward for when you didn't even own the game. You join a year before the event but miss it, and lost out.

Unfortunately, I missed gold jewelry in the vendor from a dungeon last weekend and I may never see it again unless I craft it. That's my fault.

I'm not sure the sorting out part of this will be easy enough to implement. The OP argument pretty much is giving rewards to non participants. Which non participants are eligible? I'm ok with free cake, even for the undeserving or unworthy lol. It just creeps towards the whole "slippery slope" stuff. I really doubt it would happen.

Sometimes players can get busy with real life problems and can't log in for the entirety of the event.

It's what happenned to me, for the last few years I was in the hospital and unable to play ESO. I'm not saying this to make you feel pity, just to express that it's not always the fault of the player if they can't log in during an event.

It's for those scenarios that I think it would be a good thing great to give the cakes for those who didn't get it. It's always sad for me to see the cakes I got in my home and then 3 missing ones. It reminds me of what I've been through and I wish it could be avoided.

Amottica

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

While I do not consider the cakes to be a big deal, I do respect game offerings that were only offered in-game during a given period and are never offered again.

The Senche Mount that was supposedly given to players for free if they subscribed during the first year of the game is a great example of what I speak of. It makes it very special. The cakes, while not as big of a deal IMO, falls into that same category. So if someone was not around, and especially if it was before they played the game, then it would not be available to them.

What if they were around though? The first year this was confusing how to do the event especially for new players

I asked my guild about what was different the first year and they replied the quest to get the cake was the same the first year as it has been since. Hard to see how someone who put effort into figuring out the quest could get confused about such a straightforward quest.

spartaxoxo

Amottica wrote: »

I asked my guild about what was different the first year and they replied the quest to get the cake was the same the first year as it has been since. Hard to see how someone who put effort into figuring out the quest could get confused about such a straightforward quest.

The first year that the cake furnishings dropped was not the same as the first year the mementos did. In fact, they came a few years later. And the first year they were both together, there was confusion on how to get the furnishing.

In addition, the first year quest was different because the ingredients were not next to Donovan. Some people didn't know where to find the ingredients readily and didn't bother to figure things out because they did not care about getting exp from the memento. Only for that decision to come back to haunt them years later when they decided to make the cakes into furnishings.

spartaxoxo

The furnishing cakes were added in 2020. The mementos were added in 2016. This means that people in 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019 would have had to predict the future to understand the requirement to get the furnishing in 2020.

The players in 2020 did know of the requirements but may not have known that there'd be no chances to get it again as I don't believe they made any statements about past cakes despite the issue being raised. But I could be remembering that wrong.

For 2021, 2022, and 2023 the events were well-established and how the furnishings worked were well known.

So personally I'd be in favor of all the cake furnishings becoming available to all but not the mementos. However, I'd also support it if that only applied to 2016-2020 cakes.

I say this as someone who has all the cakes.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I would not be in favor of the mementos
becoming available to all but the furnishing seems reasonable.

amapola76

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I'd like the older cakes not for completionism (not really an issue for me), but purely for aesthetic reasons. Some cakes look better than others; some look better in some houses than others. No one really goes in my houses, so it's not like I'd be faking an accomplishment, either to myself or anyone else... I'd just be putting a cake that looks tasty to my character in their house of choice. I don't see how that would harm anyone.

amapola76

I mean, also, let's be real: we're not exactly talking about a reward for completing a veteran trial, here.

Does anyone really feel the need for exclusive bragging rights for handing Donelon a sack of flour for five years instead of four? Or imagine that anyone is going to come into their ESO home and think, "Oho! This person has all of the cakes instead of some of them, I am in the presence of a true champion of Tamriel!"

emilyhyoyeon

The cakes are great for bakery housing builds, and I'd have no problem with everyone getting access to them

joseayalac

There is a major flaw with OP's suggestion.

He said "To me, Jubilee Cakes are testaments to the time players have spent on ESO...".

The cakes represent the participation in the respective events to in order to earn it, so if they were not around to unlock it then they souldn't have bragging rights about having it.

Would defeat the whole purpose and value of a limited time item.

joseayalac

amapola76 wrote: »

I mean, also, let's be real: we're not exactly talking about a reward for completing a veteran trial, here.

Does anyone really feel the need for exclusive bragging rights for handing Donelon a sack of flour for five years instead of four? Or imagine that anyone is going to come into their ESO home and think, "Oho! This person has all of the cakes instead of some of them, I am in the presence of a true champion of Tamriel!"

That's what the cakes actually mean, even if you don't appreciate it. That's the purspose of making them event related and time exclusive.

Not all items are for it's nice to have some that are.

I'm not against making other different cake furnishings that are not jubilee related for all the baker friends out there.

Braffin

amapola76 wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I created my account in 2014 and missed a few cakes nonetheless. And I agree with you, that Jubilee Cakes are testaments for the time we sticked with this game.

But even if they were available for me for purchase, I probably wouldn't do it. I simply didn't spend the time with eso sometimes, and would've no use for a memento remembering me of an event I didn't participate in. There is simply nothing to remember about.

Seems more like compulsive completionism to me, but I also had no problem if they implemented it for others.

I'd like the older cakes not for completionism (not really an issue for me), but purely for aesthetic reasons. Some cakes look better than others; some look better in some houses than others. No one really goes in my houses, so it's not like I'd be faking an accomplishment, either to myself or anyone else... I'd just be putting a cake that looks tasty to my character in their house of choice. I don't see how that would harm anyone.

A fair point, I can indeed understand one wants to have a cake replica with a corresponding color scheme.

My initial response wasn't targeted at furnishings btw, as the OP clearly spoke about mementos, not the replica:

Natsirt812 wrote: »

I'm asking ZOS to make it possible to buy Jubilee Cake mementos from the same year as the account was created, using event tickets.

Not a problem for me either, can't just understand what's the purpose of having a memento related to an event one didn't participate in.

And in the end, yeah, it's just cakes

Kartalin

I don’t see the point in commemorating things in which you didn’t participate. It’s also why I’m for early pc supporters (glorified beta testers) being the only ones with the striped senche tiger mount.

illusiouk

I want this too. I have the years cakes on Xbox before joining the PC Master race server.

_Zathras_

Natsirt812 wrote: »

To me, Jubilee Cakes are testaments to the time players have spent on ESO

I'd be totally on board with this.

I've been here since beta, and was invested before that in the game's development over the previous years. I have most of the cakes, but for one reason or another I'm missing 2 of them. I feel like my collection is incomplete.