Returning Player Experience

Adonice

Decided to give this game a try after nearly two years. A lot of issues have occurred, just a few:

*Six months ago, had to download the entire game again, same computer, nothing was removed on my end, had to download it again anyway, left almost immediately after being able to get back into the game.
*Two weeks ago, decided to try again, for some reason, I had to download the entire game yet again, this was not an issue two years ago. Finally got in, bought some coin for additional character slots and signed up for ESO Plus
*Last week, after obtaining the Murri companion, noticed she was naked, alrighty then... never happened before, threw an appearance item on her, issue somewhat averted. Not needed for the most part.
*God Of Schemes quest where you fight the boss, prompt for the bridge does not appear. After multiple soft logs(character select) and hard logs, /uireload, nothing. After sending in multiple tickets about this game, I only get the obligatory bullet points on how to fix things and if the issue persists for more than four days to contact us. Did everything in the email that was asked of me, nothing worked. This is not my problem, this is your game.

After doing a number of Google searches which mostly led me back to this forum, these were common bugs that still persist to this day. The reason I'm posting this here and not the bug section is because I want people to read this before thinking about investing in this game, time and especially their money. None of this stuff is game breaking, but I can only imagine how many more bugs I will encounter if I continue here. The gist of this is, you lost a paying customer due to a poor product.

Any new players coming in, think twice about playing this game.

Amottica

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Adonice

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

markulrich1966

the game has issues, as a result I cancelled my subscription after 4 years. Bugs, and forcing players to drop the gear they crafted for millions of gold after nerfs (playing multiple characters).

On the other hand, there is no better alternative I know. I took a break for 4 months playing Fallout 76, but that game has not even 5% of the complexity of ESO storywise and in variety of building a custom setup, you cannot avoid getting ganked even if you activate pacifist mode.

So for now I'm back to ESO, though without ESO+, and will buy this years chapter only some months later on sale. Also skipped the current crown sale unlike in the years before, and without ESO+ there is no reason to buy houses because of the slot limit.

ESO can give you fun for years despite the bugs and issues, you just have to make your personal decision in how far it affects your will to pay for the game.

Amottica

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

Adonice

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

You brought the speed up originally, not I, and what I replied with was nothing short of the speed being irrelevant. Nowhere did I mention anything about being upset about the download speeds. What I did mention is that I had to download the game again, twice in fact, in a span of six months on the same computer, and that the gig total was around 90, which correlates with roughly how much this game's total gig is. In addition, I also followed up that others have had the same issue in regards to having to download the game again for whatever reason. In other words, there's something happening on Zos' end that is creating this issue, which there is according to online information. I would suggest you thoroughly peruse someone's response next time before replying.

I do appreciate the kinds words, and wish this community nothing but the best.

Four_Fingers

There was an update a couple of years ago where they restructured and all of us had to reload the entire game, probably one of the reloads you ran into.

Epiphany

Adonice wrote: »

Decided to give this game a try after nearly two years. A lot of issues have occurred, just a few:

*Six months ago, had to download the entire game again, same computer, nothing was removed on my end, had to download it again anyway, left almost immediately after being able to get back into the game.
*Two weeks ago, decided to try again, for some reason, I had to download the entire game yet again, this was not an issue two years ago. Finally got in, bought some coin for additional character slots and signed up for ESO Plus
*Last week, after obtaining the Murri companion, noticed she was naked, alrighty then... never happened before, threw an appearance item on her, issue somewhat averted. Not needed for the most part.
*God Of Schemes quest where you fight the boss, prompt for the bridge does not appear. After multiple soft logs(character select) and hard logs, /uireload, nothing. After sending in multiple tickets about this game, I only get the obligatory bullet points on how to fix things and if the issue persists for more than four days to contact us. Did everything in the email that was asked of me, nothing worked. This is not my problem, this is your game.

After doing a number of Google searches which mostly led me back to this forum, these were common bugs that still persist to this day. The reason I'm posting this here and not the bug section is because I want people to read this before thinking about investing in this game, time and especially their money. None of this stuff is game breaking, but I can only imagine how many more bugs I will encounter if I continue here. The gist of this is, you lost a paying customer due to a poor product.

Any new players coming in, think twice about playing this game.

I left as well, after playing since launch, partly because of ongoing bugs. Just curious, did they ever fix the running on top of mount bug?

Ilumia

Epiphany wrote: »

I left as well, after playing since launch, partly because of ongoing Just curious, did they ever fix the running on top of mount bug?

Yes they did indeed
And I can no longer turn my character into a mudcrab pet by previewing it in crown store and exciting anymore XD

TaSheen

Ilumia wrote: »

Epiphany wrote: »

I left as well, after playing since launch, partly because of ongoing Just curious, did they ever fix the running on top of mount bug?

Yes they did indeed
And I can no longer turn my character into a mudcrab pet by previewing it in crown store and exciting anymore XD

Um. I see at least one (sometimes more) people running on top of mounts (mostly horses) a day. I don't think it's "really fixed".

Amottica

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

You brought the speed up originally, not I, and what I replied with was nothing short of the speed being irrelevant. Nowhere did I mention anything about being upset about the download speeds. What I did mention is that I had to download the game again, twice in fact, in a span of six months on the same computer, and that the gig total was around 90, which correlates with roughly how much this game's total gig is. In addition, I also followed up that others have had the same issue in regards to having to download the game again for whatever reason. In other words, there's something happening on Zos' end that is creating this issue, which there is according to online information. I would suggest you thoroughly peruse someone's response next time before replying.

I do appreciate the kinds words, and wish this community nothing but the best.

I did read your post and understood your message completely. Unless someone plays on a machine with a tiny drive or has extremely limited bandwidth the size of the download is highly irrelevant outside of the time it takes to download it. I guess to each their own but either way, it is not a significant issue for anyone that is interested in playing this game.

I am glad @Four_Fingers noted the rework of the client to improve its operations which is a likely culprit to one of those large downloads and something that should be praised as it is an improvement. It is great that developers go through such extensive efforts to improve the game's performance.

They are about to start implementing the rework of the server-side code. There may be some bumps along that road but in the end, is expected to make huge improvements to the game's performance server side. Then again, every MMORPG has issues and is not perfect. Soon the update of equipment on all the servers will be completed which is another improvement they have been working on.

Again, hope you find a team that meets your wants and desires along these lines. We will continue to play the amazing game ESO. It is a great game.

To all new players, I suggest looking past the size of an update, and such, and deciding for yourself. A great many people enjoy ESO, making it one of the top three AAA MMORPGs out there. Those that have played this game over a period of time have the most experience on which to base their opinions and thoughts about the game. While not perfect, it is a great game that has a lot to offer.

Ilumia

TaSheen wrote: »

Ilumia wrote: »

Epiphany wrote: »

I left as well, after playing since launch, partly because of ongoing Just curious, did they ever fix the running on top of mount bug?

Yes they did indeed
And I can no longer turn my character into a mudcrab pet by previewing it in crown store and exciting anymore XD

Um. I see at least one (sometimes more) people running on top of mounts (mostly horses) a day. I don't think it's "really fixed".

Weird, I don't. It became less common at first, but I haven't seen this happen for a long time. I saw it a couple of times in 2022, and felt a bit nostalgic actually - and then I just felt silly for feeling nostalgic

Adonice

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

You brought the speed up originally, not I, and what I replied with was nothing short of the speed being irrelevant. Nowhere did I mention anything about being upset about the download speeds. What I did mention is that I had to download the game again, twice in fact, in a span of six months on the same computer, and that the gig total was around 90, which correlates with roughly how much this game's total gig is. In addition, I also followed up that others have had the same issue in regards to having to download the game again for whatever reason. In other words, there's something happening on Zos' end that is creating this issue, which there is according to online information. I would suggest you thoroughly peruse someone's response next time before replying.

I do appreciate the kinds words, and wish this community nothing but the best.

I did read your post and understood your message completely. Unless someone plays on a machine with a tiny drive or has extremely limited bandwidth the size of the download is highly irrelevant outside of the time it takes to download it. I guess to each their own but either way, it is not a significant issue for anyone that is interested in playing this game.

I am glad @Four_Fingers noted the rework of the client to improve its operations which is a likely culprit to one of those large downloads and something that should be praised as it is an improvement. It is great that developers go through such extensive efforts to improve the game's performance.

They are about to start implementing the rework of the server-side code. There may be some bumps along that road but in the end, is expected to make huge improvements to the game's performance server side. Then again, every MMORPG has issues and is not perfect. Soon the update of equipment on all the servers will be completed which is another improvement they have been working on.

Again, hope you find a team that meets your wants and desires along these lines. We will continue to play the amazing game ESO. It is a great game.

To all new players, I suggest looking past the size of an update, and such, and deciding for yourself. A great many people enjoy ESO, making it one of the top three AAA MMORPGs out there. Those that have played this game over a period of time have the most experience on which to base their opinions and thoughts about the game. While not perfect, it is a great game that has a lot to offer.

I'll try to clarify things this time around.

When I returned to this game last October or November, I had to download roughly 90 gig, which is in the neighborhood of the game's total gig, which would explain what was mentioned in post seven. Two weeks ago, I had to download another 90 gig, so unless this game's total gig is somewhere around 180 gig, there's an issue on ESO's end, and it's overwriting the current download. Do a Google search on that and you'll find it's been a reoccurring issue with this game for years. Again though, as I mentioned in my second post, that wasn't the core problem, the was only brought up as one of the many roadblocks I've encountered.

The fact these developers are still having an issue on God of Schemes after years says a lot about development and bug fixes here. The bridge prompt is only part of the problem, the boss can still bug out as well, which I did experience two years ago, but was able to use the workaround for it. That quest is part of the main storyline, there should be zero to minimal bugs, and not something that completely halts progress. The Mirri companion bug is still there as well. I didn't even bother running the other companion quests, found it to be pointless.

Regarding one of your last statements, no, ESO is not in the top three, and it's not even close, might want to look that up before making false claims. There will be a spike when the new class arrives, I'll give them that. And trying to discredit someone's opinion regarding this game is not a good look, because I or anyone else have not played in a couple of years, doesn't mean we don't have a high CP score and plenty of experience here.

New players that want to play this game, go for it, it does have a lot to offer, just know that the bugs that you will eventually encounter, most of us have already experienced and are unlikely to ever be fixed, including the main storyline.

Ragnarok0130

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

90 gigs is possible after a 2 year absence as we've had a couple of expansions adding new zones, mythics, companions, dungeons, trials, gear, and numerous balancing passes updating game the files. My steam installation is 115 GB on disc. About a year ago I had to re-downloaded the entire game which might be what four fingers was talking about.

mocap

ESO is in "ok" shape right now. The number of players who complain about this&that is an extreme minority. Most players just play, adapt and have fun as much as possible, despite the problems that still exist. In fact, it has always been like that.

Destai

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

You brought the speed up originally, not I, and what I replied with was nothing short of the speed being irrelevant. Nowhere did I mention anything about being upset about the download speeds. What I did mention is that I had to download the game again, twice in fact, in a span of six months on the same computer, and that the gig total was around 90, which correlates with roughly how much this game's total gig is. In addition, I also followed up that others have had the same issue in regards to having to download the game again for whatever reason. In other words, there's something happening on Zos' end that is creating this issue, which there is according to online information. I would suggest you thoroughly peruse someone's response next time before replying.

I do appreciate the kinds words, and wish this community nothing but the best.

I did read your post and understood your message completely. Unless someone plays on a machine with a tiny drive or has extremely limited bandwidth the size of the download is highly irrelevant outside of the time it takes to download it. I guess to each their own but either way, it is not a significant issue for anyone that is interested in playing this game.

I am glad @Four_Fingers noted the rework of the client to improve its operations which is a likely culprit to one of those large downloads and something that should be praised as it is an improvement. It is great that developers go through such extensive efforts to improve the game's performance.

They are about to start implementing the rework of the server-side code. There may be some bumps along that road but in the end, is expected to make huge improvements to the game's performance server side. Then again, every MMORPG has issues and is not perfect. Soon the update of equipment on all the servers will be completed which is another improvement they have been working on.

Again, hope you find a team that meets your wants and desires along these lines. We will continue to play the amazing game ESO. It is a great game.

To all new players, I suggest looking past the size of an update, and such, and deciding for yourself. A great many people enjoy ESO, making it one of the top three AAA MMORPGs out there. Those that have played this game over a period of time have the most experience on which to base their opinions and thoughts about the game. While not perfect, it is a great game that has a lot to offer.

I'll try to clarify things this time around.

When I returned to this game last October or November, I had to download roughly 90 gig, which is in the neighborhood of the game's total gig, which would explain what was mentioned in post seven. Two weeks ago, I had to download another 90 gig, so unless this game's total gig is somewhere around 180 gig, there's an issue on ESO's end, and it's overwriting the current download. Do a Google search on that and you'll find it's been a reoccurring issue with this game for years. Again though, as I mentioned in my second post, that wasn't the core problem, the was only brought up as one of the many roadblocks I've encountered.

The fact these developers are still having an issue on God of Schemes after years says a lot about development and bug fixes here. The bridge prompt is only part of the problem, the boss can still bug out as well, which I did experience two years ago, but was able to use the workaround for it. That quest is part of the main storyline, there should be zero to minimal bugs, and not something that completely halts progress. The Mirri companion bug is still there as well. I didn't even bother running the other companion quests, found it to be pointless.

Regarding one of your last statements, no, ESO is not in the top three, and it's not even close, might want to look that up before making false claims. There will be a spike when the new class arrives, I'll give them that. And trying to discredit someone's opinion regarding this game is not a good look, because I or anyone else have not played in a couple of years, doesn't mean we don't have a high CP score and plenty of experience here.

New players that want to play this game, go for it, it does have a lot to offer, just know that the bugs that you will eventually encounter, most of us have already experienced and are unlikely to ever be fixed, including the main storyline.

I've had such bad experiences with that quest. I think on 5 of my characters it's bugged out at some point. It's been reported here a lot, and I know I've reported a lot in-game. I agree though, anything base game should be error free at this point. It honestly feels like fixes for that are a lower priority than anything new, just given how long they've persisted. Heck, there's still a problem where players crash up near Arenthia. I just don't know where the breakdown is.

Adonice

@Destai Bugs are to be expected in most, if not all games, notably MMO's, doesn't matter which MMO I've played, they're everywhere. But yeah, given that this God of Schemes issue has persisted as long as it has on a quest chain where most new players are likely to go down, it's a problem, and a red flag.

If indeed this company is more concerned about ensuring their latest end game content is running smoothly, it might also be in their best interest for new players to have a good experience as well, primarily to pull in and retain new clientele, in other words, paying customers.

Five of your characters though... that's pretty sad. lol I've run through that quest multiple times in the past and never had the bridge issue, where there's no bridge prompt, another has been the boss bug and the other times I beat it, at least from what I can remember.

Destai

Adonice wrote: »

@Destai Bugs are to be expected in most, if not all games, notably MMO's, doesn't matter which MMO I've played, they're everywhere. But yeah, given that this God of Schemes issue has persisted as long as it has on a quest chain where most new players are likely to go down, it's a problem, and a red flag.

If indeed this company is more concerned about ensuring their latest end game content is running smoothly, it might also be in their best interest for new players to have a good experience as well, primarily to pull in and retain new clientele, in other words, paying customers.

Five of your characters though... that's pretty sad. lol I've run through that quest multiple times in the past and never had the bridge issue, where there's no bridge prompt, another has been the boss bug and the other times I beat it, at least from what I can remember.

Oh yeah, when I have actually convinced friends to actually commit to this game, there’s been many opportunities to explain to them the “nuances” of the questing experience.

Adonice

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Destai wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

@Destai Bugs are to be expected in most, if not all games, notably MMO's, doesn't matter which MMO I've played, they're everywhere. But yeah, given that this God of Schemes issue has persisted as long as it has on a quest chain where most new players are likely to go down, it's a problem, and a red flag.

If indeed this company is more concerned about ensuring their latest end game content is running smoothly, it might also be in their best interest for new players to have a good experience as well, primarily to pull in and retain new clientele, in other words, paying customers.

Five of your characters though... that's pretty sad. lol I've run through that quest multiple times in the past and never had the bridge issue, where there's no bridge prompt, another has been the boss bug and the other times I beat it, at least from what I can remember.

Oh yeah, when I have actually convinced friends to actually commit to this game, there’s been many opportunities to explain to them the “nuances” of the questing experience.

lol I hear ya. I did manage to figure out the lack of a bridge prompt during God of Schemes. Apparently one of the add-ons interferes with it not showing on screen. So if you or your friends come across a similar issue, just make sure to have the Synergize ability bound to a key, I think default might be x, but it did work, you just won't see a prompt, but you will hear a clicking noise, synergize then.

Amottica

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Sorry, you had such a bad experience on one or two quests. While the bug in the God of Schemes does happen and is unfortunate when it does, it is not very frequent.

I will note that after six months of not updating the game there will be two to three major updates so it will be quite significant. After almost two years the cumulative updates will seem huge, but it is a good thing when devs are updating the game.

I would suggest with such occasions start the update when one will be away from the PC for a while. Even with a regular update I start it and walk away to do something while it is updating.

Which was to be expected with any update(s), but unless those updates were 90 gig, that isn't the case here. I'm not the only one that had issues having to re-download this game after doing multiple searches online. I have very fast internet, so that's almost a non-issue, only pointing out one of the many roadblocks I've encountered. I've already canceled the ESO Plus and I do hope this company does get things together, still a fun game, but bugs will almost always deter people from playing.

The speed of our personal internet is not the issue as it has no bearing on how fast we download ESO updates. While I respect the right to be upset with how long it takes and the size of the downloads my suggestion makes it such a trivial matter which is why I brought it up.

I do hope you find a game that is managed more to your liking though I find ESO so much better than anything out there.

Good luck

You brought the speed up originally, not I, and what I replied with was nothing short of the speed being irrelevant. Nowhere did I mention anything about being upset about the download speeds. What I did mention is that I had to download the game again, twice in fact, in a span of six months on the same computer, and that the gig total was around 90, which correlates with roughly how much this game's total gig is. In addition, I also followed up that others have had the same issue in regards to having to download the game again for whatever reason. In other words, there's something happening on Zos' end that is creating this issue, which there is according to online information. I would suggest you thoroughly peruse someone's response next time before replying.

I do appreciate the kinds words, and wish this community nothing but the best.

I did read your post and understood your message completely. Unless someone plays on a machine with a tiny drive or has extremely limited bandwidth the size of the download is highly irrelevant outside of the time it takes to download it. I guess to each their own but either way, it is not a significant issue for anyone that is interested in playing this game.

I am glad @Four_Fingers noted the rework of the client to improve its operations which is a likely culprit to one of those large downloads and something that should be praised as it is an improvement. It is great that developers go through such extensive efforts to improve the game's performance.

They are about to start implementing the rework of the server-side code. There may be some bumps along that road but in the end, is expected to make huge improvements to the game's performance server side. Then again, every MMORPG has issues and is not perfect. Soon the update of equipment on all the servers will be completed which is another improvement they have been working on.

Again, hope you find a team that meets your wants and desires along these lines. We will continue to play the amazing game ESO. It is a great game.

To all new players, I suggest looking past the size of an update, and such, and deciding for yourself. A great many people enjoy ESO, making it one of the top three AAA MMORPGs out there. Those that have played this game over a period of time have the most experience on which to base their opinions and thoughts about the game. While not perfect, it is a great game that has a lot to offer.

I'll try to clarify things this time around.

When I returned to this game last October or November, I had to download roughly 90 gig, which is in the neighborhood of the game's total gig, which would explain what was mentioned in post seven. Two weeks ago, I had to download another 90 gig, so unless this game's total gig is somewhere around 180 gig, there's an issue on ESO's end, and it's overwriting the current download. Do a Google search on that and you'll find it's been a reoccurring issue with this game for years. Again though, as I mentioned in my second post, that wasn't the core problem, the was only brought up as one of the many roadblocks I've encountered.

The fact these developers are still having an issue on God of Schemes after years says a lot about development and bug fixes here. The bridge prompt is only part of the problem, the boss can still bug out as well, which I did experience two years ago, but was able to use the workaround for it. That quest is part of the main storyline, there should be zero to minimal bugs, and not something that completely halts progress. The Mirri companion bug is still there as well. I didn't even bother running the other companion quests, found it to be pointless.

Regarding one of your last statements, no, ESO is not in the top three, and it's not even close, might want to look that up before making false claims. There will be a spike when the new class arrives, I'll give them that. And trying to discredit someone's opinion regarding this game is not a good look, because I or anyone else have not played in a couple of years, doesn't mean we don't have a high CP score and plenty of experience here.

New players that want to play this game, go for it, it does have a lot to offer, just know that the bugs that you will eventually encounter, most of us have already experienced and are unlikely to ever be fixed, including the main storyline.

Not sure why you feel the need to clarify. I fully understood what you said the first time. Heck, the very first post I made in this thread clearly stated that I was sorry you had trouble with a couple of quests. I do not think I said another thing about the quests since then so it is odd that so much time was spent clarifying is clear I understood from the start.

I get that you find such things unacceptable and respect your opinion and support your decision to cease supporting the game financially in a manner that would restrict access to the new content.

If I received a new companion that was without clothing I would easily look past it since I think it is easy to correct. I have also run into a blockage playing the Got of Schemes on one character. It was annoying but I ended up getting through it and looked past it because the game as a whole is amazing. How amazing this game is drives the great success. Zenimax (parent company to Zos) finds it so successful that the top developer of this game was put in charge of developing another game for Zenimax Online Studios with the #2 person being promoted to the Creative Director position.

Top 5 by a major gaming publication.
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-mmos/

#3
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-mmorpg/

This one does not rank but has maybe 10 games listed
https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-pc-mmos

Here is a publication that compares ESO to FF14 with good things to say about both games. It would be an odd comparison if ESO was not one of the top games.
https://www.thegamer.com/elder-scrolls-online-final-fantasy-14-comparison/#elder-scrolls-online-rsquo-s-story-is-more-beginner-friendly

If you are trying to get me to agree with you, that is not going to happen. I am sorry you had an experience you find horrifying and hope you find a game that meets your expectations. I will note that if you return in six months or a couple of years those bugs are probably going to exist and the download will still be sizeable.

Have a great day.

Adonice

@Amottica Hyperbole much? There was nothing horrifying about my experience. lol Pointing out flaws with this game is entirely different, notably two of the issues, and customer service. One of the issues I discovered was my own fault, problem resolved.

Again, ESO is not in the top three and barely crack the top ten depending on which statistical poll you reference. If you're only going off of personal preference or some reader's opinion, then yeah, I can see it cracking the top three, but I base my information off of raw numbers, as in actual players. Here is one of your own, Lucky Ghost, good guy and always has solid information pertaining to min/maxing in this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXnjx7Lem0&t=803s

disintegr8

Been on console the whole time and the only annoying issue I have always had is lag and getting DC'd. I know part of it is being in Australia and the distance but server performance does leave a lot to be desired, especially in Cyrodiil.

Amottica

Adonice wrote: »

@Amottica Hyperbole much? There was nothing horrifying about my experience.

Sorry, I chose a word you disagree with. Since the experience was enough for you to stop paying to play the newer content it would seem rather significant.

Also, I am not going to watch 26 minutes of someone rambling . I have provided links to easy to read text information that takes only a few moments to get a glimpse of what is being said.

I will provide another link based on game populations. Most of those games are F2P which tend to be substandard as I noted earlier I was speaking of AAA games. Also, how they determine player count does not work well for ESO. The biggest manner is by looking at the trading volume which being decentralized in ESO makes it harder for them to figure out.

https://mmo-population.com/

I have noted I respect your opinion but I clearly disagree as I find the reasons minor. I am just pointing out ESO is a great game but I respect that you may disagree on that.

Again, I hope you find a game that meets your criteria. I expect somewhere in that lengthy video you provided you may find one.

Adonice

Amottica wrote: »

Adonice wrote: »

@Amottica Hyperbole much? There was nothing horrifying about my experience.

Sorry, I chose a word you disagree with. Since the experience was enough for you to stop paying to play the newer content it would seem rather significant.

Also, I am not going to watch 26 minutes of someone rambling . I have provided links to easy to read text information that takes only a few moments to get a glimpse of what is being said.

I will provide another link based on game populations. Most of those games are F2P which tend to be substandard as I noted earlier I was speaking of AAA games. Also, how they determine player count does not work well for ESO. The biggest manner is by looking at the trading volume which being decentralized in ESO makes it harder for them to figure out.

https://mmo-population.com/

I have noted I respect your opinion but I clearly disagree as I find the reasons minor. I am just pointing out ESO is a great game but I respect that you may disagree on that.

Again, I hope you find a game that meets your criteria. I expect somewhere in that lengthy video you provided you may find one.

It's not hard to mouse over the bottom of the screen in a video link to find ESO and check where the game currently sits, which is number eight, although you would have to watch the first few minutes of that video to understand how the numbers are put together. In the links you provided from your previous post, there were no numbers, only opinions, I'm sure you understand the old adage and what is said about opinions. As far as the person rambling in that video, he's important enough to this game's staff that he was invited down to test the new content and class, along with Deltias Gaming and a few others, in other words, their opinion does matter.

Your latest attempt to back your stance is to provide a link which clearly shows where ESO sits and then try to claim 'Triple AAA' to bolster that stance more. Triple AAA or FTP, doesn't matter, but do remember, ESO is a FTP game, using the trader community here to skew numbers doesn't change anything.

I'll probably wind up sticking around a little longer simply because I did figure out the bug in the main story was my own fault, and it was due to a parser add-on I had installed. Doesn't change that there are bugs here and there, but that is to be expected with any game. What finally prompted me to create this thread to begin with was the main story bugging out, the other issues I let go of, again though, my own fault. The add-on removes the bridge prompt. The boss in Schemes worked flawlessly, unlike two years ago, which is good, it means this staff does actually care about their product.