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ZOS's angry weapon designers. (Weapon glow)

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I mean how can they not be?

Enchantment glows muddy and obscure the amazing and intricate detail and styling of the weapons they work so hard on, and yet there is NO WAY for the player to turn off these annoying glows on their weapons (without getting rid of the enchantments).

Why have they not implemented a toggle of some sort to hide these glowing effects?

In any case I'd be kind of pisssed as a weapon graphics designer at ZOS.
Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2024 11:19AM
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  • Dragonlord573
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    Imagine how people who use poison feel
  • Billium813
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    Enchantment glows muddy and obscure the amazing and intricate detail and styling of the weapons they work so hard on, and yet there is NO WAY for the player to turn off these annoying glows on their weapons (without getting rid of the enchantments).

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?
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  • Triplesixtyson
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    There are sooo many amazing options. Some with glow some without. I appreciate both and like seeing them as is.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Enchantment glows muddy and obscure the amazing and intricate detail and styling of the weapons they work so hard on, and yet there is NO WAY for the player to turn off these annoying glows on their weapons (without getting rid of the enchantments).

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?
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    That's a monster style weapon. They got unique effects that hide weapon enchant effects.

    I also wish we could get monster arms without the effects.
    There are sooo many amazing options. Some with glow some without. I appreciate both and like seeing them as is.
    All weapons gets flow with enchants. There's no option to be without unless you go without an enchant on your weapon, which is only an option for solo play.
    Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on November 21, 2022 9:37PM
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  • prof-dracko
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Enchantment glows muddy and obscure the amazing and intricate detail and styling of the weapons they work so hard on, and yet there is NO WAY for the player to turn off these annoying glows on their weapons (without getting rid of the enchantments).

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?
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    I think they mean just normal weapons. If there's an enchantment or poison equipped to one, the whole model gets a rather obscuring translucent glow effect. It's very frustrating when you're trying to get a good look at a new motif or style.
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    I'm kind of envious of the red effect nightblades get for their swords, as it reminds me of Sith lightsabers. It could be some visual setting, but my non-monster weapons only glow when I unsheath them or the enchantment goes off.
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  • whitecrow
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    The only glow I hate is the one from my throwing daggers.
  • CrashTest
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    I like the enchantment glow. It lets me know my enchant proc'd.
  • chessalavakia_ESO
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    Yeah, I really wish the glow had a toggle off it's one of the few things I always modded off in Morrowind.
  • GLP323b14_ESO
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    Billium813 wrote: »

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?

    All of them. Most of them.

    There's some real beautiful artistry and craftsmanship of the weapons, and a lot of it is in the finer details as well as the overall look and appearance of the weapon. The glow effects from various enchantments significantly obscure these designs; both the overall look and the finer detail in many of them.

    It's a huge disservice to the graphical artists who design and create these models.

    And as others have said it's particularly annoying when looking through the weapons of a new motif.

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  • Billium813
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    Billium813 wrote: »

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?

    All of them. Most of them.

    There's some real beautiful artistry and craftsmanship of the weapons, and a lot of it is in the finer details as well as the overall look and appearance of the weapon. The glow effects from various enchantments significantly obscure these designs; both the overall look and the finer detail in many of them.

    It's a huge disservice to the graphical artists who design and create these models.

    And as others have said it's particularly annoying when looking through the weapons of a new motif.

    Do you also oppose custom colors and dyes because they alter the original models intended design?
  • Thee_Cheshire_Cat
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    Not sure why they can't make enchants something you can apply to whatever weapon you like, like in WoW. Could be another source of revenue, either via crowns, gems, gold etc.
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  • Molydeus
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?

    All of them. Most of them.

    There's some real beautiful artistry and craftsmanship of the weapons, and a lot of it is in the finer details as well as the overall look and appearance of the weapon. The glow effects from various enchantments significantly obscure these designs; both the overall look and the finer detail in many of them.

    It's a huge disservice to the graphical artists who design and create these models.

    And as others have said it's particularly annoying when looking through the weapons of a new motif.

    Do you also oppose custom colors and dyes because they alter the original models intended design?

    Do you oppose an option to turn off the enchantment effect for players who want to see the weapon design?
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    I'm kind of envious of the red effect nightblades get for their swords, as it reminds me of Sith lightsabers. It could be some visual setting, but my non-monster weapons only glow when I unsheath them or the enchantment goes off.

    I wish Balorg's weapons glowed all the time, I'm also a fan of that effect, and have them on my Sith-inspired character :smile:
  • Billium813
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    Molydeus wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »
    Billium813 wrote: »

    I feel like effects compliment the look of the weapons. Do you have a specific example that you feel is particularly egregious?

    All of them. Most of them.

    There's some real beautiful artistry and craftsmanship of the weapons, and a lot of it is in the finer details as well as the overall look and appearance of the weapon. The glow effects from various enchantments significantly obscure these designs; both the overall look and the finer detail in many of them.

    It's a huge disservice to the graphical artists who design and create these models.

    And as others have said it's particularly annoying when looking through the weapons of a new motif.

    Do you also oppose custom colors and dyes because they alter the original models intended design?

    Do you oppose an option to turn off the enchantment effect for players who want to see the weapon design?

    I feel like my question is entirely reasonable and within the scope of the OP issue with enchantment effects:
    It's a huge disservice to the graphical artists who design and create these models.

    Players tend to use garish colors that obscure the models and motifs as well. Designers chose practical colors and designed a look with an intended color scheme. If the OP wishes to preserve the original design and integrity the artists created, it seems like what they want may go deeper. Much like disabling other players pets and companions, perhaps the OP also would want the ability to disable other players custom colors. In that way, the OP could enjoy the intended design of the game.

    OP doesn't seem to like the shimmer from enchantments. Ok. It's perfectly fine to dislike something and understandable. I just want to know the scope of what they dislike. I don't really care if they added an option to remove the enchantment shimmer. I find it to be incredibly minor and almost imperceptible. If players want it, ok. Otherwise, /shrug
    Edited by Billium813 on November 22, 2022 4:25PM
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    I would support a feature/option to disable enchantment shimmers and effects for self and allies, and all of them altogether for pvp, as disabling them for PVP could cause some (very few) users to have less of an advantage especially in drawn out fights. It's another thing to render in that could contribute to fps lag for certain systems, which would be a reason to disable it (for the sake of performance rather than cosmetics). Obviously they won't do this for NPCs, just imagine a if you couldn't see Arkasis's weapon on fire.
    Edited by Dr_Con on November 22, 2022 7:52PM
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    I assumed it was so other players can see what you're doing... and they are receiving.
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    Surely there are a lot of poor or questionable design decisions in ESO (or any game).

    But this thread is specifically to address this particular issue.

    In this case, one group's careful and considered designs (some of them quite attractive and intricate) are being purposely obscured by a blurring moving shimmering effect surrounding a weapon because of an enchantment.

    So not only are players who appreciate these designs being denied the ability to enjoy them (unless they forgo enchantments), but the designers are missing out having their work appreciated and enjoyed.

    In any case, I don't see why anyone would be opposed to an option to disable this effect. Obviously they have an option coded to display or not display such effects dependent on if an enchantment is active.
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  • Billium813
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    In any case, I don't see why anyone would be opposed to an option to disable this effect. Obviously they have an option coded to display or not display such effects dependent on if an enchantment is active.

    I don't think you're going to find anyway opposed to an option to disable it... more that I think it's so niche that you are hard pressed to find enough people that care. When any new possible feature ZOS may implement is only WANTED for by 0.01% of players, it makes it incredibly unlikely they will designate resources to implement it. There are only so many things ZOS can implement and this seems pretty minor imo

    Which... to be blunt... is why I have been questioning this whole topic further. I was trying to see if there were other, similar issues with the game that this enchantment issue could be 'bundled' with. More issues can garner more support and more advocates to get it implemented! But if it's really just the enchantment shimmer... idk if enough people would want ZOS to devote energy to this when there are other things to do.
  • MercilessnVexed
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    Billium813 wrote: »
    In any case, I don't see why anyone would be opposed to an option to disable this effect. Obviously they have an option coded to display or not display such effects dependent on if an enchantment is active.

    I don't think you're going to find anyway opposed to an option to disable it... more that I think it's so niche that you are hard pressed to find enough people that care. When any new possible feature ZOS may implement is only WANTED for by 0.01% of players, it makes it incredibly unlikely they will designate resources to implement it. There are only so many things ZOS can implement and this seems pretty minor imo

    Which... to be blunt... is why I have been questioning this whole topic further. I was trying to see if there were other, similar issues with the game that this enchantment issue could be 'bundled' with. More issues can garner more support and more advocates to get it implemented! But if it's really just the enchantment shimmer... idk if enough people would want ZOS to devote energy to this when there are other things to do.

    My goodness. It's just a button in settings OP is asking for. It might even be helpful for people who don't have that great of a connection and speed up their game or their load screens. Sheesh!
  • GLP323b14_ESO
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    Kind of weird that anyone would
    Billium813 wrote: »
    In any case, I don't see why anyone would be opposed to an option to disable this effect. Obviously they have an option coded to display or not display such effects dependent on if an enchantment is active.

    I don't think you're going to find anyway opposed to an option to disable it... more that I think it's so niche that you are hard pressed to find enough people that care. When any new possible feature ZOS may implement is only WANTED for by 0.01% of players, it makes it incredibly unlikely they will designate resources to implement it. There are only so many things ZOS can implement and this seems pretty minor imo

    Which... to be blunt... is why I have been questioning this whole topic further. I was trying to see if there were other, similar issues with the game that this enchantment issue could be 'bundled' with. More issues can garner more support and more advocates to get it implemented! But if it's really just the enchantment shimmer... idk if enough people would want ZOS to devote energy to this when there are other things to do.

    My goodness. It's just a button in settings OP is asking for. It might even be helpful for people who don't have that great of a connection and speed up their game or their load screens. Sheesh!

    Right!

    Not only that, we know for a fact that the effect CAN be turned on or off. That part is already coded.

    In any event Billium's point is why I also appealed to the fact that the glow is a true disservice to the model designers of the weapons. It's like throwing mud (albeit some apparently think shiny nice mud) on to what they worked so hard on creating.
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  • Whibbs
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    Found this post in my search for a way to turn OFF the red glow.

    I don't like it, at all. Not even a little. It's killing my ability to see detail around the rest of my character and makes it so I can't even see my face properly, no matter how I adjust lighting, shadows, video settings, monitor settings, nothing.

    Obviously, none of that will remove the glow, but I had hoped one of them might at least make my face (if nothing else) visible, and nothing's working. I must un-equip my weapons to enjoy my zombie skin + vampire mash-up. Kind of immersion breaking in my opinion. What should be a pale-white, undead face, with missing/rotted zombie flesh, and I can't see any of it but some... wrinkles. Red, glowing, undetailed... wrinkles...

    But hey, at least I can hide my polymorph helmet............
  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have closed this topic as it was originally created in November 2022. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

    Thank you for your understanding.
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