Realistic to join a vet trial guild without Discord?

subarctic

Have read that one can get viruses (or bad bad cookies?) through Discord, and don’t want that, so is it realistic to find a relatively good trial guild without having to use Discord? After many years I’ve eventually managed through luck and over 1350 CP to pug vDSA, vScalecaller and got last boss in vSS down to 40% before we wiped, but harder content needs microphone communication, right? Any safe alternative to Discord?

AcadianPaladin

I've been using discord for several years with zero problems at all.

Now, I don't do trials but the question about needing voice for trials has been asked before and the answer seems to be that receiving voice is quite important but, unless you are the leader, transmitting is not. I'm hoping someone with some trial experience can provide a better answer for you.

freespirit

Used Discord for ages without any issues.

I keep my security up to date and clean up my cookies regularly, I think cookie wise potentially bad ones are everywhere, I've had to crumple my tin foil hat!

All my guilds use it never heard of anyone having problems, doesn't mean there aren't I've just never seen or heard of any!

tomofhyrule

Realistically? There might be one out there, but it's unlikely. There's no in-game voice chat on PC, and there are a lot of mechanics that need callouts, especially in higher-level vet content.

If you don't want to download discord, you can always use the browser version. There's also the option of using a second screen for that - I have Discord on my phone when I'm on with friends so it doesn't interfere with my game at all. Some guilds may also prefer other chat platforms like TeamSpeak.

However, Discord is fairly popular, so I'd guess the chances of getting a random virus from a platform that 90+% of online gamers use is pretty minimal. Especially if you only stick to a could of relevant servers and practice good cybersecurity.

subarctic

I can use my laptop for Discord. Great advice and tip Thank you. I have played ESO since 2014 and only managed to pug 4 of the vet dungeons that need over 300 CP (in Dungeon Finder), and therefore nice to have a guild with voice chat

WiseSky

subarctic wrote: »

Have read that one can get viruses (or bad bad cookies?) through Discord, and don’t want that, so is it realistic to find a relatively good trial guild without having to use Discord? After many years I’ve eventually managed through luck and over 1350 CP to pug vDSA, vScalecaller and got last boss in vSS down to 40% before we wiped, but harder content needs microphone communication, right? Any safe alternative to Discord?

Discord is owned by the same companies that owns ESO. Aka Microsoft.

If you get a virus, it's cause you clicked on



And you chose continue to download, and then did not run an anti virus on the download or had an active one.

So avoid that and avoid going onto links that you get in messages that are about NFTs and you should be 99.9999% safe

WiseSky

subarctic wrote: »

I can use my laptop for Discord. Great advice and tip Thank you. I have played ESO since 2014 and only managed to pug 4 of the vet dungeons that need over 300 CP (in Dungeon Finder), and therefore nice to have a guild with voice chat

you can also use your phone for discord

Lumenn

I play both PC and Xbox and as many have said here, on PC it's kinda needed. On Xbox only guilds though I've seen the requirement to join discord which never made sense to me(some guilds span servers so I can KIND OF see that)

MidniteOwl1913

So from this I'm guessing that the PC doesn't have a built-in voice communication system like the PS? I have my mike disabled most of the time, but I hear people chatting away in pugs all the time...

subarctic

PS has in-built voice communication!? You lucky guys. But using my laptop for Discord and desktop for ESO is safest. Problem solved

AcadianPaladin

@MidniteOwl1913 you are correct - no built-in voice comm for ESO on PC.

@subarctic glad you've found an option that should work and that you're comfortable with.

subarctic

Me too, thanks for help

FeedbackOnly

Discord is like the Facebook for communication. The virus information that you got is about discrid nitro scams for free nitro. As long you don't click on such a link that's not an issue.

Discord has done a lot better this year on it. You are unlike to experience any issues. I have been using discord for 4 or 5 years

Some very old guilds use other services like Skype.

Tandor

tomofhyrule wrote: »

However, Discord is fairly popular, so I'd guess the chances of getting a random virus from a platform that 90+% of online gamers use is pretty minimal.

"Fairly popular" or "90+% of online gamers use". Which is it? Source if the latter, please.

FeedbackOnly

Tandor wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

However, Discord is fairly popular, so I'd guess the chances of getting a random virus from a platform that 90+% of online gamers use is pretty minimal.

"Fairly popular" or "90+% of online gamers use". Which is it? Source if the latter, please.

Not that person but ..

https://levvvel.com/discord-statistics/

It's currently 70 but a lot games have thier own chat too

p00tx

subarctic wrote: »

Have read that one can get viruses (or bad bad cookies?) through Discord, and don’t want that, so is it realistic to find a relatively good trial guild without having to use Discord? After many years I’ve eventually managed through luck and over 1350 CP to pug vDSA, vScalecaller and got last boss in vSS down to 40% before we wiped, but harder content needs microphone communication, right? Any safe alternative to Discord?

Heya! End game raider here, and I do think it's pretty vital to have discord if you're raiding on PC. Most ESO group content really needs group coordination and communication between players if you want to clear it effectively at the vet level and up. That being said, discord is a pretty safe bet if you're careful. Don't accept friend invitations from people you don't know. Don't click on any links that you did not specifically ask to see, unless it's ESO logs. If you're not sure about something, don't be afraid to ask a friend if it's safe to use. Better to be safe than sorry these days.

Tandor

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

However, Discord is fairly popular, so I'd guess the chances of getting a random virus from a platform that 90+% of online gamers use is pretty minimal.

"Fairly popular" or "90+% of online gamers use". Which is it? Source if the latter, please.

Not that person but ..

https://levvvel.com/discord-statistics/

It's currently 70 but a lot games have thier own chat too

As I read that article, the "70" you refer to is the 70% of those who have downloaded Discord who use it for " for gaming and other activities". That's nothing to do with the percentage of online gamers who use it. I don't doubt that Discord is fairly popular, but I do doubt that 90+% of online gamers use it. If that is the claim, then where is the source? It isn't your linked article.

Serenez

WiseSky wrote: »

Discord is owned by the same companies that owns ESO. Aka Microsoft.

Last year there was speculation this may happen with Microsoft, but I don't think this is the case now.

CrashTest

subarctic wrote: »

but harder content needs microphone communication, right?

Yes. You need to be able to communicate with your team so you can coordinate and learn. The most efficient way to do that is voice comms. You don't want to be that guy with a wiping mechanic on you constantly killing the team bc you're not in comms with your team.

Discord is safe. Just keep your PC's firewall and antivirus up.

redlink1979

subarctic wrote: »

(...) harder content needs microphone communication, right? (...)

Comms are crucial for group coordenation.

Jaimeh

Once upon a time groups used TeamSpeak but these days it's all through Discord. You can certainly complete vet trials without comms, the vast majority of Crag pugs only uses the in-game chat for instance, but for organized runs, especially hard mode progressions, comms are a must. I think the viruses in Discord were mostly related to links that people received via DMs, so if you do join, just be mindful what you click.

Kusto

Communication is necessary in more difficult vet trials. You don't necessarily have to speak if you're dps but you need to hear the lead. Tanks and healers however need a mic. This is why alot of pug runs fail, they don't often know mechanics and don't wanna join voice neither.

Nestor

The idea of using laptop for comms and pc for games is good, like hearing the sounds of the game in the headset. It can get echoey for others as the pc sound gets picked up by the headset mike. There is a delay that can back feed on its self

ForzaRammer

If you worried about virus, just save paper copies of everything important and put them in a safe.

Don’t save anything on your computer and re-install OS every 3 months.

It’s no big deal getting virus or malware if nothing of value is on your computer.

SpacemanSpiff1

my guild uses ventrillo, i rate it 5/7

Necrotech_Master

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

my guild uses ventrillo, i rate it 5/7

the last time i used vent/ts was like 8 years ago lol

was using skype for awhile until i switched to discord

cyclonus11

Some folks still use Teamspeak

Bat

Just don't open any links sent to your message requests from anyone you don't know and you will be fine. Discord does not contain viruses on its own. As with any other service there might be cookies and depending on where you are on the planet* you might be in your rights to opt out of all of them.

As with anything on the internet, user caution is recommended. Popups and direct messages that urge you to click on anything because "something bad has happened", or "will happen" if you don't, are usually best ignored (Alt+F4 until you reach your desktop, then run your preferred antivirus full scan plus a second opinion full scan to be sure).

Ragnarok0130

Discord is normally required for most vet trial runs so you probably won't get far without it. Discord can be used from a webpage, the mobile app, on your Xbox with the Xbox Discord app, or the actual PC program application so you have flexibility here.

The only weak link on discord when it comes to viruses and malware is located between the keyboard and chair so if you're likely to think that Nigerian Prince really is giving you $20M you're probably already infected with malware even without using discord and should just use discord for the raid. ;-)

You can also select a security posture on discord on which messages to scan; just be wary like when using email when it comes to links and attachment and you'll be just fine.

Dr_Con

don't download stuff from people if it seems fishy, that's how you get your viruses.

there's other temperamental stuff like discord crashing gifs but nothing that will cause permanent damage to your computer or phone unless you specifically download something and put it on your computer.

also there are few guilds who can do vet content with chat only, and they would need to communicate in chat effectively or have run it a thousand times with eachother to know the mechs to do it without comms. if you haven't already trained yourself then it's probably best to use comms.

DMuehlhausen

Discord is perfectly safe really to use. And now it isn't 100% needed for most things, but is helpful