Guild Leaders, would you let a player with an inappropriate name join your guild?

SilverBride

If a player with an obviously lewd and offensive name asked to join your guild would you let them?

Edit: I clarified this to add offensive.

rauyran

SilverBride wrote: »

If a player with an obviously lewd name asked to join your guild would you let them?

Not personally, but I guess there are guilds that don't care so much

SPR_of_HA_community

Any examples ? ) It is his name ))) And your choise.

Some times yes - some times no I think.

Depends on name and how you feel about player in current moment.

opalcity

No.

fizl101

Yes. The name doesn't make the person. If they acted in a way that wasn't in the spirit or intention of the guild then they wouldn't remain in the guild.

TBH I wouldn't be surprised if a person with an inappropriate name got reported and made to have a name change anyway

Edit for clarification - when I responded it talked about a lewd name, which to me is likely to be something funnily sexual or crude, not racist, offensive to groups etc. A lewd name i would have no problem. a name akin to <x group> killer etc I would have a problem with

SPR_of_HA_community

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.
If you have such player you than do care that there is some may be not good players in your guild with good names )))

But you always can kick some of them )))

For different people choise depends.

freespirit

Erm... I know of a GM who has had to do several character name changes!

I have had a few dodgy @ names in my guilds, doesn't bother me, I have bets with myself how long they will keep their name.

If they only PVE then often the name stays for a while, if they PVP it's changed fairly fast!!

SilverBride

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

Vulkunne

Well here's the thing. And I know no one probably wants to recognize this, however when an individual joins an association, and enters into a relationship with that party, then the Org is partially represented by their actions and they in turn are recognized as being part of the party.

Its kind of a grey area because I've seen Guilds with these home-made standards they want you to accept yet, you really should not have to accept anything as long as you are complying with ZOS TOS. However, having managed two Guilds for several years, I can say that you want someone who best aligns to the values of your Org. Some players just join and they're a plague on moral or otherwise displaying values that run people away.

So any guild worth joining may try to accommodate the individual, which they should, however there comes a point (and someone always does this) where you cannot allow one person's behavior to be a cancer on your establishment. I hate to say it like that but sometimes command decisions must be made to protect the party's integrity.

SilverBride

Kingsindarkness wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

If a player with an obviously lewd name asked to join your guild would you let them?

[snip]

That is exactly what being in a guild with players with lewd names who think they are clever feels like.

[edited to remove quote]

SPR_of_HA_community

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

Random )

For some players it is OK, but some names others think are good - are not welcome in other guilds.

I think if guild master is OK with a meaning of its word - or do not know it - he will be OK with that.

The same it depends on storage factors that player who make choise think in that moment.

But why do you ask ? )

opalcity

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

This. I had a player ask to join my guild (different game) and they had a name that was questionable, so I declined. They might have been a one-hit dragon-killer for all I knew, but if they are the type of person who thinks that they are funny/clever/edgy by choosing an obvious dogwhistle as a name, the chances are they weren't going to be respectful to my other guildmates.

I reported their name, declined the invite, and put a heads up in the Alliance chat in case they tried to apply to the other guilds in the alliance.

SilverBride

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

Random )

For some players it is OK, but some names others think are good - are not welcome in other guilds.

I think if guild master is OK with a meaning of its word - or do not know it - he will be OK with that.

The same it depends on storage factors that player who make choise think in that moment.

But why do you ask ? )

I ask because I feel a guild is represented by their members. If even one member has a lewd name, such as one that describes as specific act, then that reflects negatively on the rest of the guild. I can't understand a guild leader finding this acceptable.

Kiralyn2000

If you don't want to be judged by your stupid name, don't make a stupid name. /shrug

Cazador

Probably not, also if someone in the guild already changes their name to something problematic they'll get reported.

SilverBride

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

If you don't want to be judged by your stupid name, don't make a stupid name. /shrug

This is true, but would you want this person with the bad name in your guild?

SPR_of_HA_community

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

Random )

For some players it is OK, but some names others think are good - are not welcome in other guilds.

I think if guild master is OK with a meaning of its word - or do not know it - he will be OK with that.

The same it depends on storage factors that player who make choise think in that moment.

But why do you ask ? )

I ask because I feel a guild is represented by their members. If even one member has a lewd name, such as one that describes as specific act, then that reflects negatively on the rest of the guild. I can't understand a guild leader finding this acceptable.

I think, that it is acceptable - because it do not show a lot.

To do not take normal players with such names show - that there are people - who based on their wrong opinion make other players problem. So I better have player with bad name in clan, than a player who do bad thingth to other people. I can as example base my choise on that. Thats why.

SPR_of_HA_community

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

If you don't want to be judged by your stupid name, don't make a stupid name. /shrug

The same time if you want to judge you can do a character with stupid name

SPR_of_HA_community

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

If it is a good player, you do not really care about his name.

What if you know nothing about the player but what their name is? Then how would you know if they are a good player?

Random )

For some players it is OK, but some names others think are good - are not welcome in other guilds.

I think if guild master is OK with a meaning of its word - or do not know it - he will be OK with that.

The same it depends on storage factors that player who make choise think in that moment.

But why do you ask ? )

I ask because I feel a guild is represented by their members. If even one member has a lewd name, such as one that describes as specific act, then that reflects negatively on the rest of the guild. I can't understand a guild leader finding this acceptable.

The same time it reflects negatively all guild if their members think such way )))

You more interested in name or in thingth that player really do ? )

But yes some names can be very unexeptable some times )))

Lady_Galadhiel

I am Co guildmaster in a trading guild on EU and in my experience less than 1% of the players have lewd playernames, but rather lewd/inappropiated character names.
I wouldn't accept people with obvious obscene names but sometimes it surely happens as lots use names in different languages.
You simply can't filter then all.

Blinx

I've met people with the most wholesome, benign names that say things, or do things that make my hairs stand on end, unless it was like truly repulsive, I won't judge.
Maybe they were on a skooma binge when they selected it, thought it was witty at the time, and at with the obscene price to change it, just left it alone.

SilverIce58

Are you the guild master? If not, then just block and move on.

If their name bothers you so much, then why not report them?

SilverBride

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

So I better have player with bad name in clan, than a player who do bad thingth to other people. I can as example base my choise on that. Thats why.

How does someone know if the player is good or bad to other people when they have never met them before? The only thing they know about the player is the inappropriate name they chose. That alone speaks volumes.

SPR_of_HA_community

The same time why people that are kicked in dunguans, hear about META all the time that is not really better in a lot of situations do not report a lot of such players?

Why do some body need to care about other players name ? )

SilverBride

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Are you the guild master? If not, then just block and move on.

If their name bothers you so much, then why not report them?

I do report lewd and offensive names but that isn't the question.

Stanx

It's just a name, and ZOS let them have it - which is the main check as far as I'm concerned. People also get triggered by different things, so it's subjective. I'd personally rather take action against the players with appropriate names that scream profanities in zone chat.

SPR_of_HA_community

SilverBride - Oh my god You lose my respect I based on your forum avatar )))

Thats how bad nick names really helps

They remove wrong expectations )))

Gaebriel0410

No, you are allowed to have standards. If you think someone has a terrible name that would reflect badly on your group, decline him.

Personally, I absolutely judge people with terrible names.

SilverIce58

SilverBride wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Are you the guild master? If not, then just block and move on.

If their name bothers you so much, then why not report them?

I do report lewd and offensive names but that isn't the question.

And you're asking the question here publicly when you could be having a private conversation with your guild leader of his/her choice to let in such a person, thereby involving everyone, when it could just be between you, the person, and the guild master. You've obviously come here to ask trying to get people on your side, when we don't even know what the person's name is.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

No. I expect some level of maturity.

Soarora

Not a guild lead but if I were, I probably wouldn’t let them in unless they’re friends with an existing guildmate. Not because I think it’s not a good look for the guild but because personally I don’t think I mesh well with the type of person who’d have a username like that. Of course, if its a large guild it doesn’t really matter but if its a small one then it would to me.