Give us a Guest mode for PVP land

Whiskers

So far, I have gotten 0 tickets from the event, and its unlikely I will get any.
In PVE events, PVPs can get tickets without getting ganked, not so in PVP events. I ran across a few players in other factions who left me alone. We didn't fight, we just ran the other direction. There was a group of Ebonheart players though that would hunt me down. To that group I say, 10v1, I'm sure your parents are proud...
Anyways, a guest mode would be nice where players could visit those zones do quests and be immune from player damage, while at the same time be unable to cause player damage.

redspecter23

You can generally do a scouting report with a very low chance of even seeing another player. That will be good for 2 tickets a day at least.

Browiseth

Browiseth wrote: »

isn't the whole point of this event to encourage people to pvp

DivineKitty

You could easily group with people in the lower population campaigns. It's easy to siege a fort with 20 others.

redlink1979

If you have a DC or EP char you can enter a campaign where your faction is dominant and go to Chorrol, Weynon Priory or Cheydinhal. 2 tickets in 5 minutes or less.

AcadianPaladin

@redspecter is right. Pick a low population campaign and do a scouting mission in Cyridiil per day. Extremely low risk if you exercise just a bit of care and situational awareness. Ride fast on the way, avoiding getting too close to enemy facilities or what the map shows as fights in progress. Sneak when you get close to your objective. Ride fast to the nearest keep you can port from - less care require here because if you get killed, you get a free port to where you want to go anyway. Don't even remember the last time I got killed doing this and I've been doing every Mayhem event (normally 2/year) for years now.

I'm PvE only but if you don't want to adapt to the requirements of an event, then just skip that event.

SkadiMZ

No

SilverBride

I personally don't enjoy PvP so I don't participate. But I don't think it would be fair to give players immunity from harm in a PvP event.

Casul

Topics like this are what spawn more NBs.

Jamie_Aubrey

If you come to our active campaigns and not one of the ones they added then its fair game but if I attack you and see you like level 30 I'll stop ( if I'm close enough to see your name plate ) but if I'm going somewhere and I see a red health bar, I attack

kargen27

It is because of events like these that I and several other players found we actually like PvP. PvP needs new players and these events help provide new players.
I'm getting tickets on two accounts and so far while doing quests for tickets I've only been jumped once. I was on a level 43 character with no CP and was jumped by two players while at a quest objective in Imperial City. I don't carry stones nor do I fight back when doing these quests because I don't want to reward the players ganking me. Sad thing is based on how long it took for them to kill me I think I could have taken one of them out. They were not PvP'rs. Twice in Cyrodiil I didn't see another player at all other than at Southern Highrock Gate.
Very few, if any, of the gankers during these events are actually PvP type players. At least not good ones. They are the ones that are frustrated by dying all the time and take it out on others during this event by camping quest areas.

Wolfpaw

Whiskers wrote: »

So far, I have gotten 0 tickets from the event, and its unlikely I will get any.
In PVE events, PVPs can get tickets without getting ganked, not so in PVP events. I ran across a few players in other factions who left me alone. We didn't fight, we just ran the other direction. There was a group of Ebonheart players though that would hunt me down. To that group I say, 10v1, I'm sure your parents are proud...
Anyways, a guest mode would be nice where players could visit those zones do quests and be immune from player damage, while at the same time be unable to cause player damage.

No it takes a spot and creates a bigger queue for those that want to PvP.

dinokstrunz

No. Either play up or don't partake. It's that simple. There's plenty of other events to claim the event rewards you seek

Freelancer_ESO

Be strategic about your campaign selection.

If you are trying to directly help the suffering population of Cyrodiil it's easiest to do so when you are on a campaign where the war effort is less active and people are less likely to be raving the country sides interrupting your good work.

If you'd like to spread the message of peace and the benefit of ending the Three Banners War, your message will likely to have more of an impact if you are in a highly trafficked campaign with group of like minded people so that your message of peace can impact a wider audience.

Sluggy

There has been so much advice given over the years that at this point I don't think it's worth my time any more. If you can't perform the actions then you will just have to go ticketless.

Amottica

Whiskers wrote: »

So far, I have gotten 0 tickets from the event, and its unlikely I will get any.

I have gained 2 tickets every day without seeing any PvP and will likely continue to get 2 tickets every day without seeing any PvP.

I go into a low pop campaign, do the quest, and get the tickets. When I did my quest today to turn in tomorrow, I saw two enemy players and they had no interest in PvP as they were likely deep in my territory to do quests to get the Tamriel Hero title.

It is a choice but this event will clearly remain a PvP event though it is easy to get at least two tickets every day without having to deal with PvP. Heck, even in the off chance I will get attacked by a player it is such a small event that it is nothing to get upset about.

RBAP28

Guest mode....uh no. As a person who likes to PvP, I wouldn't mind them doing a ''just questers'' (no PvP) campaign. That way I wouldn't be left wondering how much of my faction is here to fight and not pick flowers, quest and just get tickets. Especially during midyear, maybe I wouldn't have to wait 2+ hours to get in.

Zama666

No thanks to Guest Mode.

What next? Friendly Monsters Mode in dungeons so it is easier to find treasure?

I hated PvP a while a go. Now I think it is pretty solid. I still suck but keep coming back to try...little by little I am improving.

And yup - I don't event tickets all the time either

oldbobdude

That’s funny. Cyrodil tourist visa. I’d buy one.

Didgerion

Whiskers wrote: »

So far, I have gotten 0 tickets from the event, and its unlikely I will get any.
In PVE events, PVPs can get tickets without getting ganked, not so in PVP events. I ran across a few players in other factions who left me alone. We didn't fight, we just ran the other direction. There was a group of Ebonheart players though that would hunt me down. To that group I say, 10v1, I'm sure your parents are proud...
Anyways, a guest mode would be nice where players could visit those zones do quests and be immune from player damage, while at the same time be unable to cause player damage.

You can do that but that breaks the immersion.

Personally I'd like to see the 4th faction added to the game: The bounty hunters.
If a player killed another player then a bounty is activated and a bounty hunter can hunt the killer down.

There are so many guilds in PVE area but no guilds in PvP. I miss innovations in Cyrodiil.

xDeusEJRx

No and only because it makes for worse experience for PVP players. The amount of PVE players that will bump up population or create queues because they're all PVE'ing taking away spots from people who want to actually participate in PVP.

That will just make experience worse for people who want to pvp. That plus it creates a "false" population for the campaign, where it seems like people are in the server, but most of them would just be PVE'ers immune to combat. Meaning you waste time looking for pvp when it's a bunch of PVE'ers questing.

For that reason, I dont think it's a good idea.

SeaGtGruff

If you have a <L50 character, you could try going to one of the <L50 campaigns to see if it's any easier to get tickets there.

If you don't have a <L50 character, but do have a free character slot, you might consider creating a new character just so you can access the <L50 campaigns during these events. You'll need to level up to L10 to get into Cyrodiil, but that usually doesn't take very long to do.

That doesn't help with IC, but you can try the suggestion of doing the daily quest for the Arena district.

Daimonion82

I heartfully hate PvP, but Cyrodill is still the best place during those events. Do scouting or join zerg group. Yesterday I've captured three keeps and got shards from enemy towns without even see enemy player. All map was blue - best time I ever had there
Would be great if we could get all tickets in Cyro, without going to that cursed IC. That is a place with highest population of sociopaths. From my experience in Cyro people generally do pvp, map is big, so meeting a ganker is rare. Quite opposite in IC.

Hapexamendios

While I don't like PvP myself, this suggestion just serves no purpose. As others have said, the tickets aren't hard to get. I've gotten them in both Cyrodiil and Imperial City with minimal effort.

Galiferno

As much as I hate pvp and many pvpers I come across, they shouldn't change this event to accommodate Pvers, especially when it's very easy to slip in and out of both Cyrodiil and Imperial City without seeing an enemy player. Still, this event reminds me of why I don't give gear to pvpers in vet dungeons. They laugh and slaughter pvers who make the mistake of going in unprepared for pvp, I will treat them in kind when they queue for vet dungeons with setups unfit for pve.

renne

It's a PvP event.

If you don't want to go into a PvP zone then you don't get tickets, it's that easy. If you go into a busy campaign and get PvP'd, well, that's what happens when you don't go into one of the empty campaigns.

PvErs have more than enough events for the rest of the year get all the tickets you'll need, nevermind the fact you don't even have to do PvP to get any of the tickets in this event.

FlopsyPrince

DivineKitty wrote: »

You could easily group with people in the lower population campaigns. It's easy to siege a fort with 20 others.

Easily? Really? Not my experience. A few may have zergs you can join, but not most, especially for AD on PC NA.

FlopsyPrince

renne wrote: »

It's a PvP event.

If you don't want to go into a PvP zone then you don't get tickets, it's that easy. If you go into a busy campaign and get PvP'd, well, that's what happens when you don't go into one of the empty campaigns.

PvErs have more than enough events for the rest of the year get all the tickets you'll need, nevermind the fact you don't even have to do PvP to get any of the tickets in this event.

That is a very bad attitude that is harming the game.

You can get the tickets in the Birthday Event just by using the item for that event, for example. You do the activities to get the other bonuses.

This event used to allow running the Dungeon for IC credit, but it does not now as far as I know.

The tickets are not tied to PvP items, so the argument that you have to repeatedly get ganked is not a strong one.

You may be able to get the Arena quest just staying on the tower in IC, but that is a very boring way to play, if it even works properly for you.

Doing a scouting mission is VERY risky unless you happen to get a map where your faction controls most of the map. Running across the zone(s) can be very dangerous with so many other players in them.

I have yet to see a solid argument for why tickets require the action there when other events do not have that requirement. (Some do, but the method of getting the ticket is usually much simpler in that case.)

FlopsyPrince

Galiferno wrote: »

As much as I hate pvp and many pvpers I come across, they shouldn't change this event to accommodate Pvers, especially when it's very easy to slip in and out of both Cyrodiil and Imperial City without seeing an enemy player. Still, this event reminds me of why I don't give gear to pvpers in vet dungeons. They laugh and slaughter pvers who make the mistake of going in unprepared for pvp, I will treat them in kind when they queue for vet dungeons with setups unfit for pve.

You cannot purposefully target them even so.

The worst part of this event is the behavior you note. And it hasn't made PvPers all that happy with ZOS either at other times.

renne

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

renne wrote: »

It's a PvP event.

If you don't want to go into a PvP zone then you don't get tickets, it's that easy. If you go into a busy campaign and get PvP'd, well, that's what happens when you don't go into one of the empty campaigns.

PvErs have more than enough events for the rest of the year get all the tickets you'll need, nevermind the fact you don't even have to do PvP to get any of the tickets in this event.

That is a very bad attitude that is harming the game.

You can get the tickets in the Birthday Event just by using the item for that event, for example. You do the activities to get the other bonuses.

This event used to allow running the Dungeon for IC credit, but it does not now as far as I know.

The tickets are not tied to PvP items, so the argument that you have to repeatedly get ganked is not a strong one.

You may be able to get the Arena quest just staying on the tower in IC, but that is a very boring way to play, if it even works properly for you.

Doing a scouting mission is VERY risky unless you happen to get a map where your faction controls most of the map. Running across the zone(s) can be very dangerous with so many other players in them.

I have yet to see a solid argument for why tickets require the action there when other events do not have that requirement. (Some do, but the method of getting the ticket is usually much simpler in that case.)

Every single other event being a PvE event harms the game more, but you don't see PvErs complaining about all the events they have, or PvPers clogging up the forums complaining that there isn't a PvP version of every single other event. Because this event? This event is our cake and we eat it and we like it.

You don't have to be "repeatedly ganked" to get tickets. That almost entirely seems to be your unrealistic POV of what going into IC and Cyro is, going from what I've seen you post across PvP-related threads. Fact is, 99% of the time you won't get ganked if you're not where PvP happens.

In fact, I'm almost certain that the few times it DOES happen at quest turn ins or wherever people complain it's happening during the event, it's a PvEr whose slapped on the latest Alcast PvP build and that only works because PvErs are there in PvE gear. Because no PvPer would bother wasting their time camping a quest giver on the off chance someone is going to turn up there, when they could go to where the map is busy.

I'm very sorry but your view of what PvP is in this game just does not match reality.

Scouting missions are not risky, I've never ever seen another player when doing the scouting missions (yes, I do them even though I PvP because it's easy tickets when I can't actually play for long, in fact I just did one tonight and the only people I sae were the ones at the transitus shrine when I left to port to a keep because I went into a campaign with no bars).

"I have yet to see a solid argument for why tickets require the action there when other events do not have that requirement. "

The anniversary event is the basically only event that DOESN'T require you to have to do a quest/etc to get tickets, and getting tickets in MYM is as simple as it is for all the other events.

EF321

Whiskers wrote: »

In PVE events, PVPs can get tickets without getting ganked.

You might be unable to get boss rewards after waiting for it to spawn for 15 minutes, because your pvp build does not make you into "top 12 dps get loot only"
You might be kicked from dungeon because you are not good enough / don't know mechs
You might be not able to progress in dungeon because of fake tanks and healers
You might be not accepted into trial at all for witches gold skull



Plenty of ways PVErs can prevent you from getting PVE rewards.