RIP Sorcs/Necros

brylars

I looked through the list of nerfs and noticed all of the classes got hit, some more than others. I couldn't help but notice Sorcs were hit the hardest. Necros too. I guess I need to finally let go of those classes once and for all.

I also did notice that some of the buffs favored one class, maybe two, so we are back to having only one class for PvP. I really like seeing different classes fighting it out in Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds.

The once consolation, I guess it is really a hope, is that it seems like the changes could mean there will be a new class in the next chapter.

Daggerfell0929

Wardens and templars got the hurthammer also

brylars

Daggerfell0929 wrote: »

Wardens and templars got the hurthammer also

Yeah I saw that too. I think Templars can be salvaged though. I have seen a few players' ideas on Youtube on how to make it work.

Remathilis

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

brylars

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

Cuddlypuff

brylars wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

I actually heard that the mechanical acuity and proximity detonation nerfs happened because devs were getting bombed too much in PVP.

brylars

Cuddlypuff wrote: »

brylars wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

I actually heard that the mechanical acuity and proximity detonation nerfs happened because devs were getting bombed too much in PVP.

Kusto

Pve also exists. Wardens lost 20-25% of dps, while necros and sorcs "only" 10%
As usual most of the changes are pvp driven and completely destroyed many pve builds.

SeaGtGruff

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I main a sorc on one server and a nightblade on the other, although I don't really play either of their classes very much since I like to play 2H stam melee in Heavy armor. I'm curious to see how they perform on PTS without any respeccing or regearing. As long as I can still solo normal base dungeons and WBs, I'll be happyish. And as for PvP-- well, I stink at that already, so no worries about performing any worse.

merpins

brylars wrote: »

The once consolation, I guess it is really a hope, is that it seems like the changes could mean there will be a new class in the next chapter.

Right? Nerf every class in the game then release a new class that's just better than all the other classes. Sounds like the thing to do.

shadyjane62

brylars wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

I have yet to see anything that would make me believe they actually play this game.

terrasight

If I have to let my Sorc go, I let Eso go.

mocap

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

Caluurion was busted PTS. Oaken nerfed. Middle-Heavy dual attacks trash dumped.
NBs got their piece of hummer strike too.

JustAGoodPlayer

DK is now garbage with even no unique good skills, no pet, no moltan armaments unique HA buff.

So ... what class is not complete garbage now ? What to choose ? )))

All are bad ... .

JustAGoodPlayer

shadyjane62 wrote: »

brylars wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

I have yet to see anything that would make me believe they actually play this game.

If they can not pass content they do themselves - they do not play or test it.

When i do little game for fun i pass it a lot of times when test it.

It looks like they do content like:
We do some thing, do not even try to test it.
Do not care i will not play it, so just let others ... play this ... .

It is absolute bad !

Game degrades each update. It becoming worse in each patch !

No positive changes at all !!!

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

brylars wrote: »

I looked through the list of nerfs and noticed all of the classes got hit, some more than others. I couldn't help but notice Sorcs were hit the hardest. Necros too. I guess I need to finally let go of those classes once and for all.

Mag DK got obliterated.

JustAGoodPlayer

OK LA changes, ok with 20 second dots, but why skills was changed ?

New skill animation looks terrible !!!

Why ??? Just for what reason ???

I am DK, but when i see bew jubs of templar ... .

Whyyy ??? Why did you make this ??? It is complete garbage !!!

Jamie_Aubrey

Time to go back to playing other games then, I'm not about to go and make a new alt

Holycannoli

The DoT nerfs seem just a bit excessive. In some cases they're nerfed like 40%, so they now take twice as long to do only 60% of their damage.

You know what happened the last time they nerfed DoTs like this in September 2019? I quit the game for over two years.

brylars

Kusto wrote: »

Pve also exists. Wardens lost 20-25% of dps, while necros and sorcs "only" 10%
As usual most of the changes are pvp driven and completely destroyed many pve builds.

They struggle to treat PvP and PvE differently. I don't understand why but they insist are trying to harmonize all the skills and sets between the two styles of combat.

terrasight wrote: »

If I have to let my Sorc go, I let Eso go.

I am considering that myself. It was my first class and I still have my first toon which I recently revamped to make him PvP playable if with a group. I am considering changing him up to a bowsorc to see if I can salvage the class.

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Time to go back to playing other games then, I'm not about to go and make a new alt

I am still going to give it a chance. I have been with this game since Beta and have spent ALOT of money on it since I am a RPer too. My wife has already left though. She says she is taking a "break" but she really got into another game and is excited about it enough to keep hounding me to join her. I am one of those people who is a "one game person." If I start playing her game I won't be playing this one.

I still recommend giving it a chance.

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

OK LA changes, ok with 20 second dots, but why skills was changed ?

New skill animation looks terrible !!!

Why ??? Just for what reason ???

I am DK, but when i see bew jubs of templar ... .

Whyyy ??? Why did you make this ??? It is complete garbage !!!

The animations look better when you are attacking something other than just swinging or jabbing at the air. Not much better but it is better. I am wondering if there has been a big change in who is in charge of the combat team. It just seems like when there is a big change, it goes a completely different direction than what was done before. Maybe there is a lot of turn over. Maybe the Class Rep Program dissolution was actually over this and since there would be a NDA with anything associated with the company like that, the company could say or do whatever it wanted without any "inside information" coming out. I still say try it out.

pleximus

terrasight wrote: »

If I have to let my Sorc go, I let Eso go.

THIS! I'm about done with ESO with all the wrecking to magSorcs over the years. I extended my subscription with 6 months because I have a horrid memory but man oh man do I regret doing that.

Didgerion

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

DK is now garbage with even no unique good skills, no pet, no moltan armaments unique HA buff.

So ... what class is not complete garbage now ? What to choose ? )))

All are bad ... .

You can have my pet if you give me your whip!

CGPsaint

terrasight wrote: »

If I have to let my Sorc go, I let Eso go.

This all day long. I main a MagSorc 99% of the time and have stopped playing already. I'll be enjoying my backlog of other games while I wait to see if ZOS comes to their senses!

olsborg

brylars wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

I have been wondering if the devs are all nightblades in game.

Dunno how you can even say that, NB has been the looser in both pve and pvp for the last 3 years easy. Only reason nbs are "ok" for ganking in procc camp is because of one set...caluurions.

Xinihp

Really unhappy with the "direction" of the current combat balance team.

Less class identity, no new features, and massive 40% game overhauling nerfs to everything after promising to take things slow just 6 months ago.

Why do they feel compelled to reinvent the wheel just to lower the DPS ceiling for 5% of the top end players who practice to be as good as they are, and why do they think gumming up combat for literally everyone is going to lower any gap?

If I break the legs of a dude in a walker and an Olympic athlete, do I narrow the gap between their 5-mile run time?

The whole things makes absolutely zero sense and is a totally arbitrary, whimsical, superfluous and unnecessary change that only makes things worse and less fun for everyone. REALLY not looking forward to this "new game experience."

MEBengalsFan2001

Remathilis wrote: »

Everyone not a nightblade got hammered.. The five people who still main nightblades are pretty happy though.

NB didn't get nerfed because they were more reliant on gear set than other classes to produce their damage. Now they are probably more in line with other classes. After update 35 goes live, devs will have to monitor how each class is performing and make further adjustments as needed. My bet mod 36 we will see adjustments to Warden and Sorc as both seem to be in a really bad place ATM.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

brylars wrote: »

Right? Nerf every class in the game then release a new class that's just better than all the other classes. Sounds like the thing to do.

Isn't that what they did to sell necro?

Maximilian

Laexas

Well, dont see the werewolfs dps change...


i lose a 50% of total dps or more...

SickleCider

Laexas wrote: »

Well, dont see the werewolfs dps change...


i lose a 50% of total dps or more...

Man it's such a good thing one of my main toons is a werewolf stamsorc.

Nyahahahah. Hah. 🙃😭💀

I shall no longer awoo.

francesinhalover

Kusto wrote: »

Pve also exists. Wardens lost 20-25% of dps, while necros and sorcs "only" 10%
As usual most of the changes are pvp driven and completely destroyed many pve builds.

sorcs only 10%?...

Light attack nerf , Trial dummy gives more dmg bonuses than live trial dummy.
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Crystal Weapon (morph):

Reduced the damage of this ability by 41.5% so that it now does 130% of a ranged spammable attack between both attacks, rather than 200% of a melee spammable.

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Bound Armaments (morph):

Reduced the damage per hit of this ability by approximately 38%.
This ability no longer passively increases your Light Attack damage.

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Hurricane (morph): This morph now increases in damage by 12% per tick, up from 8%. Along with the frequency adjustment, this will reduce the total maximum to 120%, down from 160%.
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Twilight Tormentor (morph):

Reduced the damage per hit of this morph's basic attacks by approximately 33%.

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