Stam Bow/Bow Sorc question

Sugram22

my question is witch path is better, psychical or poison?

this is my low lvl build, and currently still on training gear
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51878/
with CP i mite be off with few points on some skills cause don't remember them 100% but the ones 50 and 25 are sure it includes all under extended might, but u should get the general idea where i am going for with it

i have cat sorc DW (beast when it comes to solo PVE) and tried bit bow with him, and cat has better sustain then orc (and i mean stam sustain, i spam spray and stam gets deplete quite fast) unless its cause orc is low lvl and training gear


i have poison Bow NB to but witch is better with sorc poison or psychical



but here is my cat DW sorc, ferry good at least for solo PVE and PVE questing even bit OP for it, i don't need potion for 1example
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51880/
forgot what set he has. skipped most CP only redid blue cause mostly same build just different choice of WEP
it build recommendation to ppl who want solo PVE

Didgerion

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

Sugram22

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

Didgerion

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

It doesn't matter anymore, Stamsorc just got destroyed by ZOS

ZOS_Hadeostry

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding

EozZoe1989

can be what ever you want to be in the game no one can force you to anything.. its a game it ment to be playable to all types of playing and like skyrim some people play for the freedom not the you have to stay like this class and blah blah blah... you can do what ever like ..

geonsocal

best bet, read through tool tips and item descriptions, as your character "grows"/levels - try your best to make sure all the different "stuff (traits, glyphs, set pieces, potions, mundus, champion points, food/drink, attribute points, abilities) synergize as well as possible...

also, your "build" needs to suit your playstyle...you can have different "playstyles", but, if possible how you like to play should lead your build...

it's cool, after some time (could take months, could take years), you can begin to put together "themed" builds, those are enjoyable to play...

have you tried out any group content like dungeons or pvp?

Sugram22

geonsocal wrote: »

have you tried out any group content like dungeons or pvp?

yea year ago but never trial though (sins i was on pause/away from the game) and at times i rome around Cyrodiil

Sugram22

EozZoe1989 wrote: »

can be what ever you want to be in the game no one can force you to anything.. its a game it ment to be playable to all types of playing and like skyrim some people play for the freedom not the you have to stay like this class and blah blah blah... you can do what ever like ..

not 100% true, what i have learned seeing ppl in cyrodiil: example if u want to do PVP and be good at it u half to follow certain rules/builds most boring builds, ur team took the resource and then comes 1guy that just wipes out 5-6 ppl solo, mostly 2h DK, that's just a example if i were in to PVP hardcore


meaning u half to go against play stile u like and chose something u hate and find easy/boring

Sugram22

tried poison and poison feels bit more fun

sets i plan to go for main set
https://eso-sets.com/set/swamp-raider

second set
https://eso-sets.com/set/leviathan
or this instead of Levi
https://eso-sets.com/set/spriggans-thorns

mundus stones depending on depending on the sets
Shadow
or
Lover

currently thief

crit rate currently over 30 a bit, lvl 35, like to get crit as high as possible but also need poison boost


also maybe instead of Levi something that gives both Crit rate and Crit damage boost maybe something that doesn't cost more then Swamp rider and spriggan's, don't remeber all the sets i would half to look the set list

same sets as my NB, spriggan's and swamp

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

It doesn't matter anymore, Stamsorc just got destroyed by ZOS

how?

Didgerion

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

It doesn't matter anymore, Stamsorc just got destroyed by ZOS

how?

That's how:
Crystal Weapon (morph):
Reduced the damage of this ability by 41.5%
Bound Armaments (morph):
Reduced the damage per hit of this ability by approximately 38%.

There are no good skills left for StamSorc to work with. If this goes live as is then you better pick up another class for your bow/bow build. Your DPS will be way behind if you go with a sorc.

Sugram22

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

It doesn't matter anymore, Stamsorc just got destroyed by ZOS

how?

That's how:
Crystal Weapon (morph):
Reduced the damage of this ability by 41.5%
Bound Armaments (morph):
Reduced the damage per hit of this ability by approximately 38%.

There are no good skills left for StamSorc to work with. If this goes live as is then you better pick up another class for your bow/bow build. Your DPS will be way behind if you go with a sorc.

ur talking about this 2skills?
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Blast
and
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bound+Armaments

never use them on pow stamsorc

this1 i use on DW stamsorc
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bound+Armaments


for one i use normal attacks only to restore stam, mostly i use skill, i hate the light and heavy attack sys (normal wep attacks that include light and heavy attacks) i like skill paste game style where u only use skills like in most MMO's (i like to spam skills only) so this low duration buff https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Blast for me is pointless, second reason its cause of the buff duration 6sec, rotating for that to cast it again cost more damage (cause of time loss, with the time i could cast other skills) then it gives at least for me

so this skill they can nerf, but they should change it not nerf it, buff that beuf norma attacks is not that useful if u want game to be more skill paste
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Blast

i overall hate low duration buff like just like this
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Obsidian+Shield
reason i never use it, ZOS screwed up this skill made them garbage, the time i need to use it cause rotation takes bit time i am dead, buffs should be 10sec+ max 30sec

so i have bit critique when it comes to buff duration


so i like that they nerf the normal attacks, i like if the normal attacks become irrelevant for DPS and even better that the stam/mp restore bonus from normal attacks go to skills so u don't need to use normal attacks at all anymore

so not against that nerf if they buff stam sorcs passives to make up for the loss, well not nerf but change the skill completely so in no longer buffs and add buff to sorcs damage passive, add poison damage to this and buff psychical
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Energized



in my opinion buffing and nerfing and never achieving balance is ZOS's trick to keep players playing cause u half to spend time and maybe even farm, over all ur doing and redoing a lot its psychosocial trick to keep u in game even to get u addicted to it to a point

Zodiarkslayer

Poison is better for Bow Nightblades, not so good for Sorcerers.

For BowSorcs you want to use Physical damage as much as possible. That is because of the Energized passive. And all class stamina skills of Sorcs are also physical.

You can get poisoned status effect from poison glyphs. That's the easiest way anyways. Or you use a weapon damage glyph.

Skills should be Storm Attro, Bombard/Focused Aim, Crystal Frags, Lightning Flood, Razor Caltrops, "Defense Flex Spot".
Until you have Caltrops use Arrow Barrage. Bombard is for AoE and Trash Mobs. Focused Aim is for bosses.
For the flex spot you need to take what the situation requires. Crit surge is for healing over time, Dark Deal for Burst heal and sustain help, Hurricane for Armor and Dot. Whatever you fancy.

And train out your character. Below Lv50 CP160 every discussion is pointless, because you loose most of your power after a few level ups. That is how it works, sorry.

When u are at lv50cp160 (you are at lvl35 now, right?), go to Bankorai zone. The overland medium set there is Spriggan's Thorns. Get 5 or as much pieces as possible, to be flexible, in Divines, Bow in sharpened and Rings are in Robust. Rings should be purple quality, the rest gold, because why not? You only have to do a couple of Dolmens until you get 3 pieces of jewelry.

When you are done and if you have High Isle, go to "Steadfast Hammer and Saw". It is the crafting site for Order's Wrath. That is the most powerful and most easy access set for StamSorcs. It has everything that the Sorcerer class lacks. So just craft some missing pieces until you have 5.

If you do not have High Isle, use Leviathan instead. Or buy Order's Wrath on Guild Traders.

If you play Solo and only on one bar, like your posted links suggest, the Oakensoul ring is made for you. Complement with a piece of Kra'gh or Slimecraw and there you go super simple and powerful BowSorc.

It'll look something like this, in the end:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=449138

Have fun, hope I could help.

SpiralStorm4

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Poison is better. It can trigger poisonouss status effect. It also will hurt WWs more.

ok, question does lightning flood/hail of allows and other AOE groud damage over time skills count as DOT that Thaumaturg will buff them?

my new warfare build
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51882/
just the CP

It doesn't matter anymore, Stamsorc just got destroyed by ZOS

how?

That's how:
Crystal Weapon (morph):
Reduced the damage of this ability by 41.5%
Bound Armaments (morph):
Reduced the damage per hit of this ability by approximately 38%.

There are no good skills left for StamSorc to work with. If this goes live as is then you better pick up another class for your bow/bow build. Your DPS will be way behind if you go with a sorc.

Okay, has this gone live yet? And if so, it's only a couple of skills getting nerfed back down, some. Technically, I might be able to access the test server and find out if this is going to put a damper on my overall damage or not.

Sugram22

@Zodiarkslayer
well i get the general idea but i always run both bars second bar only one skill and buffs


my general idea
http://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/share/51935/
sins i spam skills and rarely use normal attacks (same with crystal weapons skill) bound armaments are no use to me and i don't like summoned pets sins they take slots away, only ultimate summons


for one i use normal attacks only to restore stam, mostly i use skill, i hate the light and heavy attack sys (normal wep attacks that include light and heavy attacks) i like skill paste game style where u only use skills like in most MMO's (i like to spam skills only), there is 2much work for DPS in this game, so i doubt i make enough like if i get in group maybe ppl will complain sins i play normally for fun not as a shore, it also means with my own phase/speed, not going nuts trying to get good rotation to be fast, i don't worry for that stuff, i so years ago its pain in the ass and said F it

geonsocal

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Poison is better for Bow Nightblades, not so good for Sorcerers.

For BowSorcs you want to use Physical damage as much as possible. That is because of the Energized passive. And all class stamina skills of Sorcs are also physical.

once upon a time i used to mostly outfit my toons in "themed" builds...as the number of build variables increased - i found myself needing to adhere more and more to where zos was leading us all with their patch updates...

so yeah, at this point if you're not taking the time to read through every little bit of your build in order to maximize it - chances are good you'll run in to lots of folks in cyrodiil who are ensuring their whole build synergizes as much as possible to squeeze every bit of damage mitigation, sustain and execute they can out of their toon...

Pelanora

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

there you go super simple and powerful BowSorc.

It'll look something like this, in the end:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=449138

Have fun, hope I could help.

How does this build have so many buffs?

Zodiarkslayer

Pelanora wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

there you go super simple and powerful BowSorc.

It'll look something like this, in the end:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=449138

Have fun, hope I could help.

How does this build have so many buffs?

(Br)Oakensoulring. 😁
It'll have even more buffs next patch.

Pelanora

Thank you. Should have realised.

Can i ask what gives the big pen numbers, the ring or the sets, or both....

Zodiarkslayer

3276 Sharpened trait, 3460 Spriggan's 5 piece bonus, 1878 from 2 pieces light armor passives, 700 from cp and 950 Bosmer racial passive, I believe.

That's a little over 10k

Pelanora

Thanks! So helpful!