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Only a few nodes? Probably a bad place for a lead

CameraBeardThePirate
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Zos, it's understandable you want to make leads something that feel like you have to put in a concerted effort to get, but stuff like the Murkmire Strongboxes as a location for leads is just a bad idea on all counts. It's unfun, there's no feeling of gratification whatsoever, and on top of everything, how on earth was it ever approved to have something that tons of people are going to want drop from only a handful of SHARED nodes in a small zone?

Farming time aside, you've opened up a whole can of worms of trolls that are simply opening the nodes and sitting on them so that no one else can use them. I really don't understand the logic. With the rate that it's going at, crowds will be in murkmire for weeks during populated playtimes. It isn't fun, rewarding, engaging, and worst of all, it feels extremely lazy.
  • cibacrome
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    I feel like we're complaining to a void or a sociopath, but what the heck - this is the worst. Make lead farming fun please. Bottlenecking it behind 15min spawn timers is malevolent. The other leads were find, I mean it can be frustrating having a hundred people killing npc's in your area, but at least the respawns are reasonable. Imma log out and go do other stuff, this is just too much.
  • NoxiousBlight
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    Yeah it's bad.

    Nothing is worse than the Death Dealer's lead locked behind DSA though. Whoever though that up is nuts. Still don't have it after what... a year? Maybe the upcoming event will encourage me to get back in there, but i'm not so sure.

    They really need a pity timer on these leads. Every time you DON'T get it then it should increase your chance of getting it by 1%. Then eventually you are guaranteed the lead when it reaches 100%.
  • FantasticFreddie
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    Lessons learned from the Kilt fiasco: 0
  • Necrotech_Master
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    it would be nice to just overall improve chances to get the leads, especially when trying for the same lead multiple times
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  • Kory
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    My problem with this is there is no gameplay or fun to be had. Everyone is standing around waiting to unlock a box. According to ZoS bragging there are millions of players that play their game, why is this lead only acquired from a very limited number of safeboxes that spawns almost 10 12 min? Casuals and the people sweating over the safebox for hours can't even get the mythic lead! :#

    Gonna have to log on in the dead of night to actually loot one or two safeboxes like a real thief :D If I'm lucky
  • phileunderx2
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    This is worse than the water nodes in shadow fen.
    Ugh. Please nerf this ring so I don't want it anymore.
  • merpins
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    Sit at a spot that has less people, so not the main crafting area, spam E until it respawns. If ya got a second monitor or a laptop, or like idk a TV, watch something else while you do it. Heck, I did it while I was working, you know, on the clock, getting paid. Left hand spam E, right hand doin' editing. Take you about an hour at most, that's what it took for me; didn't miss a single strong box that spawned (once every 8-10 minutes I think?).

    Of course this is not ideal. It definitely should not be in strong boxes, farming those isn't great. It's not worse than water nodes in shadow fen; the drop rate for that lead was MUCH lower. This you'll get 1 in 5 or so when you unlock the chest, or 1 in 100 if you open a chest that's already been unlocked. ZoS underestimated the hype for this mythic; everyone wants to play with it even if it's suboptimal to use. It's a fun design!
    Edited by merpins on June 7, 2022 9:29PM
  • Xenite
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    Honestly, I wish any lead just dropped randomly from different activities in any zone with a bit of priority to ones you have yet to obtain. They make this big deal about ESO is play what you want, where you want at any level. Then they lock a highly desired lead behind something like a lock box is a single zone, that everyone is going to want to farm.

    All they have done is create nastiness and vitriol in the community with people fighting over a flippin lock box.

    All around poor design choice.
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