Grand Master Crafter, now receiving a lot of low level materials for Daily Writs?

Bat

I've noticed my Grand Master Crafter is getting low level or seemingly random lower-than-what-one-would-expect-level materials in daily writs rewards. Iridium Grains, Iron Ingots, Silver Weave and the likes. Is this a bug or a new feature?

Kisakee

You reset your skillpoints or used the Armory and didn't reskill the profession passives.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

That’s normal. The idea is to provide mats for people who craft for alts, guildies, and the like, since once you’re maxed out in crafting and level none of the lower-level stuff will drop.

Kisakee

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

That’s normal. The idea is to provide mats for people who craft for alts, guildies, and the like, since once you’re maxed out in crafting and level none of the lower-level stuff will drop.

It's not normal, i always get high level items. The level of materials is directly tied to the level of skilled passive in each profession.

Bat

Kisakee wrote: »

You reset your skillpoints or used the Armory and didn't reskill the profession passives.

No.

LoneStar2911

I’ve also noticed low level materials coming from daily writs. I try to keep my craftbag free of materials that are CP 1-149, but I keep getting small stacks. And they seem rather frequent.
Idk if we’re both drunk, but this seems like a new thing.

Kisakee

Bat wrote: »

Kisakee wrote: »

You reset your skillpoints or used the Armory and didn't reskill the profession passives.

No.

What server are you on? It's always hard to help when you can't face someones problem as you're playing somewhere else where it's just not happening. I'm PC EU.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Kisakee wrote: »

It's not normal, i always get high level items. The level of materials is directly tied to the level of skilled passive in each profession.

Then the RNG likes you. My master crafter regularly gets things like Calcinium Ingots when she does Blacksmithing writs, and Electrum Ingots along with the Platinum when she does Jewelry, etc.

fizl101

On PS5 I often get lower level mats on my crafter, usually mid range stuff, not usually bottom tier like jute

Bat

Kisakee wrote: »

Bat wrote: »

Kisakee wrote: »

You reset your skillpoints or used the Armory and didn't reskill the profession passives.

No.

What server are you on? It's always hard to help when you can't face someones problem as you're playing somewhere else where it's just not happening. I'm PC EU.

This is happening on PC-EU. The reason why I noticed is my plus sub has ended and I can easier see what materials are landing in my inventory. Really random rewards, all skill lines maxed out with pertinent passives.

Kisakee

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Kisakee wrote: »

It's not normal, i always get high level items. The level of materials is directly tied to the level of skilled passive in each profession.

Then the RNG likes you. My master crafter regularly gets things like Calcinium Ingots when she does Blacksmithing writs, and Electrum Ingots along with the Platinum when she does Jewelry, etc.

There we have it: "Along with the Platinum". So yes, it's possible to get some lower level materials in addition but you will get the regular ones all the time. OP has been a bit unclear as it sounded that they's exclusivly getting low level mats.

kringled_1

Iridium grains is perfectly within the normal range of what comes directly from a jewelry writ.
The crate of materials will be 2 piles, one at your crafting level, one at a randomly selected level below your crafting level. What I'm getting hasnt particularly changed.

Grandchamp1989

I sure dont hope you are right, if rare materials become even harder to get, prices might rise further than what they are…

Arunei

kringled_1 wrote: »

Iridium grains is perfectly within the normal range of what comes directly from a jewelry writ.
The crate of materials will be 2 piles, one at your crafting level, one at a randomly selected level below your crafting level. What I'm getting hasnt particularly changed.

This. It's been this way for a while now, a couple of years at this point I believe? I have a terrible memory and can't recall when they made this change, but you always get mats at your actual crafting level and then a smaller number for lower levels. Is it safe to assume you had the loot window thing turned off, the one that lists your loot as you get it in the bottom corner of the screen? If that's the case and you also had ESO+, then that would make sense that you never really noticed what mats you were getting before (or heck, even with that loot list thing turned on, it's not exactly large and easily noticable, so things could still be overlooked).

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Arunei wrote: »

This. It's been this way for a while now, a couple of years at this point I believe?

Since before Greymoor at the least. But yeah, ESO+ swallowing up everything is a reasonable explanation. Check your craft bag OP; if you have a bunch more lower level mats in there than you remember refining then that’s what’s been going on. (And they’re usually refined ingots or whatever, at least for the Equipment Writs. My base level Jeweler still using Pewter will get Copper dust, but the higher skill level chars get ingots.)

PeacefulAnarchy

You always get two stacks, unless you get a survey. One stack of max level and one at a random lower level.

Sarannah

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

You always get two stacks, unless you get a survey. One stack of max level and one at a random lower level.

This! For the past (almost) two years I have done all 7 crafting dailies on 18 characters, and everything seems to be as usual.

PS: I actually like that we also get a stack of lower mats, you never know where you might use them for. And they will come in handy for when we might ever get more character slots.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

I've mostly noticed a drop in survey node maps.
I hope they didn't change the RNG.
I get little to none these days and I am lucky to get one out of 8 crafters.

As for the mixed level of resources being dropped. I don't really get it. The aim of creating a crafter is to get him/her to max level and you then need max level resources for daily writ creation.

I don't craft lower level gear and only do so on my main character for 'training builds' which is once every year/two or so

Kiralyn2000

Youyouz06 wrote: »

As for the mixed level of resources being dropped. I don't really get it. The aim of creating a crafter is to get him/her to max level and you then need max level resources for daily writ creation.

I don't craft lower level gear and only do so on my main character for 'training builds' which is once every year/two or so

Many people with a "main" crafter will either be making gear for their lower-level alts, or will sell their crafting services to other players. Which means needing materials from lower tiers, that they can no longer harvest themselves due to their level & crafting tier being maxed out.

So ZOS added lower-level materials to the writ rewards a couple years ago, so that high-level crafters would have a source for them.

Northwold

The provisioning rewards seem particularly keen to make sure I have the recipe for Muthsera's Remorse. I'm sure it tastes lovely but I don't need the recipe 30 times.

Dagoth_Rac

Youyouz06 wrote: »

As for the mixed level of resources being dropped. I don't really get it. The aim of creating a crafter is to get him/her to max level and you then need max level resources for daily writ creation.

If you are a max level character doing max level writs, there is no other to get lower level materials. Every resource node in the world will be max level resource. While a lot of players treat crafting as nothing more than a way to do writs, other players are truly master crafters and want to be able to craft anything at any time for themselves and friends and guild mates. Doing max level writs lets you acquire a big stockpile of every basic crafting material in game. So when someone asks, "Can you make me Level 17 Adept Rider with 3/1/1 heavy/medium/light and Impenetrable on the small pieces and Infused on big pieces," you will have the materials readily available as a side effect of doing writs.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Youyouz06 wrote: »

As for the mixed level of resources being dropped. I don't really get it. The aim of creating a crafter is to get him/her to max level and you then need max level resources for daily writ creation.

I don't craft lower level gear and only do so on my main character for 'training builds' which is once every year/two or so

Many people with a "main" crafter will either be making gear for their lower-level alts, or will sell their crafting services to other players. Which means needing materials from lower tiers, that they can no longer harvest themselves due to their level & crafting tier being maxed out.

So ZOS added lower-level materials to the writ rewards a couple years ago, so that high-level crafters would have a source for them.

I think I missed that memo when on pause, I see.
I'd stil like more Survey Node maps though *grins*

Amottica

Kisakee wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

That’s normal. The idea is to provide mats for people who craft for alts, guildies, and the like, since once you’re maxed out in crafting and level none of the lower-level stuff will drop.

It's not normal, i always get high level items. The level of materials is directly tied to the level of skilled passive in each profession.

There is a crate that provides lower level rewards regardless of crafting and character level. It was designed this way since it is difficult to farm lower lvl Matt’s without respecting.

smacx250

These were *added* to writ rewards with the introduction of One Tamriel, as in, if you didn't get them, you wouldn't have gotten anything else in their place. This was because prior to 1T, max level crafters could still farm lower level mats for alts, etc., in lower level zones - but that went away with 1T (get max level everywhere). So to appease a few of us that bemoaned that loss, random lower level mats were added to the writ rewards. Just vendor or destroy them if you don't want them.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/289225/so-they-did-it-they-screwed-up-crafting-material-collecting

Mythgard1967

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Youyouz06 wrote: »

As for the mixed level of resources being dropped. I don't really get it. The aim of creating a crafter is to get him/her to max level and you then need max level resources for daily writ creation.

I don't craft lower level gear and only do so on my main character for 'training builds' which is once every year/two or so

Many people with a "main" crafter will either be making gear for their lower-level alts, or will sell their crafting services to other players. Which means needing materials from lower tiers, that they can no longer harvest themselves due to their level & crafting tier being maxed out.

So ZOS added lower-level materials to the writ rewards a couple years ago, so that high-level crafters would have a source for them.

Or they are in guilds and supply other folks lower level alts or new players entering the game with set gear and training gear. Obtaining lower level crafting materials is why I have a full stable of alts at varying "levels" or crafting and content.