BRUMA dolmen bugged -finally solved-

Lauranae

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please, i would have love to finish this achievement. 2 months now without any possibility to complete it.

Before you all jumped on me
I know about the animation showing a dolmen will start soon
I did completed already on two others accounts the dolmens of cyrodill before the animation change and after. And i had no problem
I tested with 2 lv 50, and 6 newly created characters to really test. They went immediatly to Bruma Dolmen to discover it. That was not possible at all.
I tested with 1 EP, 1 DC and 6 AD
i tested any campaign. I even did not confirmed my home to be able to do that with EP and DC.
I did completed all domens several times (65 times) but could never ever get Bruma working. I respected the order of the animation for each dolmens, but Bruma do not receive any animation showing as ready for combat.
When you approach a Dolmen for the first time, you have a screen alert saying that you have discovered a dolmen. This never happens for Bruma. I discover the town but not the dolmen. As it was before.

Could you please check what is the problem ?

Thank you

Xarc

Hello.
Did you make a ticket for that ?

Idinuse

Meh, entire Cyrodiil is riddled with bugs atm. You have a correct scroll quest that gets placed - chance is it doesn't count, no turn in marker. You kill a boss in a delve? Chance is it doesn't count, you get no AP buff. Etc, etc, etc, etc, et.....

Lauranae

Xarc wrote: »

Hello.
Did you make a ticket for that ?

Last time i spoke about it on the forums, people mainly pointed me thinking i was doing wrong. So no. I decided to push the test.
I guess i can post a ticket now. As of today, still no bruma lol

Posted a ticket explaining as here what is happening.

Aislinna

Lauranae wrote: »

Last time i spoke about it on the forums, people mainly pointed me thinking i was doing wrong. So no. I decided to push the test.
I guess i can post a ticket now. As of today, still no bruma lol

I just got the Bruma Dolmen achievement a few weeks ago during the Mayhem festival, so guessing it's a bug with your account and a ticket would be the best option. For what it's worth, my character is AD, I was in the Ravenwatch (Standard, No CP) instance and AD controlled Bruma when the dolmen popped and there were several other AD players doing the fight also.

Good luck.

Lauranae

Wow lucky you!.

I did mayhem with 3 AD characters completed all. And even during this time it never popped up for me.

I captured bruma town so may times since all this time, even 4 times yesterday and we had all the map from 5am est to 5 pm est. And though nothing for me.

I hope this will resolve. Thank you

katanagirl1

Lauranae wrote: »

Wow lucky you!.

I did mayhem with 3 AD characters completed all. And even during this time it never popped up for me.

I captured bruma town so may times since all this time, even 4 times yesterday and we had all the map from 5am est to 5 pm est. And though nothing for me.

I hope this will resolve. Thank you

There is supposed to be an issue with only one dolmen being active in Cyrodiil now. If another one is active and you go to the Bruma one it will not activate until the previous one is cleared. You can see them active on the map at the wayshrine in and out of Cyrodiil.

Sorry I don’t have the link but it is getting late here.

geonsocal

why in the heck did zos mess with the dolmens in cyrodiil...

it boggles the mind how they mess with stuff in cyrodiil that doesn't really need to be messed with - but: can't fix game performance or the low pop bonus...

Lauranae

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Lauranae wrote: »

Wow lucky you!.

I did mayhem with 3 AD characters completed all. And even during this time it never popped up for me.

I captured bruma town so may times since all this time, even 4 times yesterday and we had all the map from 5am est to 5 pm est. And though nothing for me.

I hope this will resolve. Thank you

There is supposed to be an issue with only one dolmen being active in Cyrodiil now. If another one is active and you go to the Bruma one it will not activate until the previous one is cleared. You can see them active on the map at the wayshrine in and out of Cyrodiil.

Sorry I don’t have the link but it is getting late here.

I know i always eliminated the the active dolmen and only went to the one with the combat alert on it. But Bruma do not have the sign on it. never.

HumbleThaumaturge

A couple of weeks ago, I completed all Cyrodiil dolmen on a new character. Just like you, I had previously completed Cyrodiil dolmen several times over the years. However, I was unaware that the dolmen-spawning mechanism had been changed. In short, only one dolmen can be active in all of Cyrodiil at a time. And that one dolmen will remain the active dolmen until someone completes it (even if that takes hours and hours). You can see which dolmen is active on the Map or at a Transit Shrine by going to "map filters" and selecting "Objectives" to display. So if you want to force Bruma dolmen to spawn, you must run around the map completing other dolmen until it's Bruma's turn.

After the update, your new characters will be "born" with all of the achievements for Cyrodiil dolmen and delves. So, it is unlikely that any players will run dolmens on new characters in the future. After the update, new characters will probably run through the Cyrodiil delves to get the skyshards, but there's really no point (other than fun?) to kill the delve bosses.

I posted a Question on the Forums. You might want to read some of the answers.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/597280/whats-the-easiest-way-to-clear-the-cyrodiil-dolmen-now-that-they-changed-the-spawn-mechanics#latest

Lauranae

HumbleThaumaturge wrote: »

A couple of weeks ago, I completed all Cyrodiil dolmen on a new character. Just like you, I had previously completed Cyrodiil dolmen several times over the years. However, I was unaware that the dolmen-spawning mechanism had been changed. In short, only one dolmen can be active in all of Cyrodiil at a time. And that one dolmen will remain the active dolmen until someone completes it (even if that takes hours and hours). You can see which dolmen is active on the Map or at a Transit Shrine by going to "map filters" and selecting "Objectives" to display. So if you want to force Bruma dolmen to spawn, you must run around the map completing other dolmen until it's Bruma's turn.

After the update, your new characters will be "born" with all of the achievements for Cyrodiil dolmen and delves. So it is unlikely that any players will run dolmens on new characters in the future.

I posted a Question on the Forums. You might want to read some of the answers.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/597280/whats-the-easiest-way-to-clear-the-cyrodiil-dolmen-now-that-they-changed-the-spawn-mechanics#latest

While i appreciate all answers to this post, i already know all of that of the mechanisms. I stricktly followed the new way aka its mandatory to kill the dolmen with the alert sign before going on.
I completed by respecting all the time the above 65 round meaning 65 times i completed the whole dolmens on cyro BUT dolmen who never had the sign over it.

And no, this account never could get bruma on any characters. So i wont have the achievement given to me. And i will not have the savior title either. I completed several times all the bruma quests (probably 30 times on each characters) and while i could obtain the Bruma dolmen while doing this on my old accounts, i could never obtain bruma dolmen to start on this account.

I tried with addons and without addons. I reinstalled the game 3 times.

At this time, i feel like @ZOS_GinaBruno or any of the devs are totally ignoring me and do not care of this at all. After all it seems i am the only one so ....

So i will not go back to cyrodill and will totally ignore all new stuff from that place, because by going there i am sur i will start again for this bruma and this will become an obsession.

spartaxoxo

@ZOS_Kevin

katanagirl1

I see now, that is extremely odd.

I have done Bruma dolmens recently, perhaps in the last 2 or 3 months, just when defending Bruma and the dolmen becomes active because of the players being there.

I hope you are able to get resolution on this, I know it would drive me insane.

EDIT: Hey @Lauranae I just thought if something, have you tried a different campaign or were all your attempts on the same one? Perhaps there is something bugged about the one you were on.

Necrotech_Master

HumbleThaumaturge wrote: »

After the update, your new characters will be "born" with all of the achievements for Cyrodiil dolmen and delves. So, it is unlikely that any players will run dolmens on new characters in the future. After the update, new characters will probably run through the Cyrodiil delves to get the skyshards, but there's really no point (other than fun?) to kill the delve bosses.

the main reason anyone in cyro killed delve bosses regularly was the 20% AP buff lol

Lauranae

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I see now, that is extremely odd.

I have done Bruma dolmens recently, perhaps in the last 2 or 3 months, just when defending Bruma and the dolmen becomes active because of the players being there.

I hope you are able to get resolution on this, I know it would drive me insane.

EDIT: Hey @Lauranae I just thought if something, have you tried a different campaign or were all your attempts on the same one? Perhaps there is something bugged about the one you were on.

oh yes!! tried all campaign possible (during Mayhem i even tested all new added campaign). This is the reason why i created so many new characters, to also join in the below 50.

As for today i dont even have a pvp home to be able to still move in any campaign with any alliance. I must say that i dont like playing other alliances than my regular but what i did is that i camp a character at logging near bruma so i usually can be near if its time to check out. They even are not equiped correctly but i dont care i want just the dolmen.

Though i am so stressed about that stupid thing now and no answer of course from my ticket, that i avoid cyro and i dont think i will go back at all. The place is like forbidden for me.

katanagirl1

I thought that might be the case but I wanted to ask just to make sure. I don’t have any other ideas to suggest, other than if you are on PS NA I would group up with you on my DC toon and go there with you and see if it helps, but I think you are on PC.

Lauranae

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I thought that might be the case but I wanted to ask just to make sure. I don’t have any other ideas to suggest, other than if you are on PS NA I would group up with you on my DC toon and go there with you and see if it helps, but I think you are on PC.

yes, only PC here

Honnestly i do not see what is blocking my account (i say account as none of the characters in the account cant get bruma)

Thank you for trying to help me.

Necrotech_Master

i have no idea what could be causing the issue outside of bad RNG

as far as im aware the dolmens do not run in a particular rotation, i think when they changed it to only have 1 active, they used the same rules as the harrowstorms, which means it randomly picks 1 dolmen that is not the one that was just completed to start

in normal zones its hardly noticeable because there are only 3 options, 1 being excluded as the "current" dolmen so its 50/50 to get the other dolmens

in cyro, there are 10 dolmens, excluding the "current" dolmen that is a 1 in 9 chance of getting the dolmen you actually need which is probably why you havent seen it trigger (a 1 in 9 chance is roughly 11% chance of getting a particular dolmen which is very poor)

these odds are almost twice as bad as western skyrim, which has 6 harrowstorms, excluding the "current" one that is 1 in 5 chance of getting what you need (20% chance)

i dont 100% know if that is what is going on here, but that is my guess since that is how harrowstorms function and it looks like the dolmens were changed to be similar to that, i also dont know if the dolmens would prioritize starting when there are people near one when the current one was completed

im on PC as well, but only play AD which is usually hard to get to bruma

Lauranae

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i have no idea what could be causing the issue outside of bad RNG

as far as im aware the dolmens do not run in a particular rotation, i think when they changed it to only have 1 active, they used the same rules as the harrowstorms, which means it randomly picks 1 dolmen that is not the one that was just completed to start

in normal zones its hardly noticeable because there are only 3 options, 1 being excluded as the "current" dolmen so its 50/50 to get the other dolmens

in cyro, there are 10 dolmens, excluding the "current" dolmen that is a 1 in 9 chance of getting the dolmen you actually need which is probably why you havent seen it trigger (a 1 in 9 chance is roughly 11% chance of getting a particular dolmen which is very poor)

these odds are almost twice as bad as western skyrim, which has 6 harrowstorms, excluding the "current" one that is 1 in 5 chance of getting what you need (20% chance)

i dont 100% know if that is what is going on here, but that is my guess since that is how harrowstorms function and it looks like the dolmens were changed to be similar to that, i also dont know if the dolmens would prioritize starting when there are people near one when the current one was completed

im on PC as well, but only play AD which is usually hard to get to bruma

I understand your reasoning, but it cant be that. The order i follow is the only one made by the game, aka when the icone showing the combat will start soon i rush there. No matter the alliance i tried, Bruma never popped, even no matter the time i spend there.
I even made the foolish attempt to stay up over 24 hours, but i wont do it again haha, at 70, it cost me a whole week of resting.
I did quest there a lot with a lot of characters with this new account. Still nothing.

If i was new to Cyro and the game, i would certainly think i am doing wrong. But my 2 other accounts completed it. And the worst for me is one of those two completed it to test if i was doing wrong with the account missing it. And .... the account completed it.

I tested with addons and without addons. I tested on my husband computer ..... and so many things. I started before Mayhem begin and yet i still dont have it.
I give up. I will not return to cyro nor ic. I was working on gettings the pvp armor with the dailies but no i prefer to stop.

I bugged it. Got a ticket number. And no news as its a bug. So i know i will never complete that. And i do not play anymore the character either

i guess the Dev could simply close this or remove it. This hurt me more than any other bug.

Necrotech_Master

the icon showing combat is whatever one is active, im suggesting they are not in a specified order (say clockwise around the zone), but instead randomly popping one of the other 9 dolmens in the zone, and at a 11% chance of getting what you need, RNG is not your friend

a sort of similar situation to make an analogy would be fishing in a zone with 1 water type (coldharbour, clockwork city, imperial city), these zones have only 1 water type to get all 12 fish, this sounds good in theory not needing to find specific water types, but as you get down to the last 1-2 fish your missing, its more likely you get ones you DONT need

there is no way this could be bugged for "just you" since it appears in a non-private instance that has dozens of other players in it with you (very likely not ones doing dolmens but they still see the same map you do when your in the zone), which is why i think you are just getting incredibly unlucky with the spawn

i dont disagree that the single active dolmen setup is good for this zone, there are way too many dolmens there, there should be up to 1 active dolmen in each of the 3 faction regions of the zone

at least due to the account wide achievements you could be in the zone with any character and if it happened to pop then you would be able to complete it, but i think with the way its working its still going to be purely RNG if that 1 particular dolmen pops

Lauranae

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the icon showing combat is whatever one is active, im suggesting they are not in a specified order (say clockwise around the zone), but instead randomly popping one of the other 9 dolmens in the zone, and at a 11% chance of getting what you need, RNG is not your friend

a sort of similar situation to make an analogy would be fishing in a zone with 1 water type (coldharbour, clockwork city, imperial city), these zones have only 1 water type to get all 12 fish, this sounds good in theory not needing to find specific water types, but as you get down to the last 1-2 fish your missing, its more likely you get ones you DONT need

there is no way this could be bugged for "just you" since it appears in a non-private instance that has dozens of other players in it with you (very likely not ones doing dolmens but they still see the same map you do when your in the zone), which is why i think you are just getting incredibly unlucky with the spawn

i dont disagree that the single active dolmen setup is good for this zone, there are way too many dolmens there, there should be up to 1 active dolmen in each of the 3 faction regions of the zone

at least due to the account wide achievements you could be in the zone with any character and if it happened to pop then you would be able to complete it, but i think with the way its working its still going to be purely RNG if that 1 particular dolmen pops

Yes but then why in 24 hours passed on cyrodill, i never had any sign on this dolmen ? Each time one dolmen is annouced as combat starting, i go. I used so many recall stone i could have 3m AP. And yes sometimes its almost in a clock order, or reverse, and sometimes, its totally random.

But can i do more than killing those as soon as they are on combat opening ? i did quests at bruma ad nauseum. My map is always showing me the new dolmen opening for combat. Bruma dont.

But anyway, the more i talk about the more i feel the need to leave the game. So, lets speak of the weather my friend )
Friendly

katanagirl1

I just wanted to post that on PS NA Gray Host campaign the dolmen at Bruma was active today when I was there.

I don’t know about whether the Bruma dolmen has a “discovered” pop up on screen the first time you approach, it has been a while since my last toon went there so I can’t confirm that.

I guess the best strategy might be to group up with at least three players, one at the wayshrine in/out of Cyrodiil, player two go to the current active dolmen and complete it and close it, the third goes directly to Bruma while player two is at the active wayshrine. Bruma should pop then.

Player one just stays at wayshrine to make sure other dolmens don’t pop and to communicate since these things can’t be seen from the map while traveling across Cyrodiil. It’s a just in case backup plan.

EDIT: typo

Lauranae

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I just wanted to post that on PS NA Gray Host campaign the dolmen at Bruma was active today when I was there.

I don’t know about whether the Bruma dolmen has a “discovered” pop up on screen the first time you approach, it has been a while since my last toon went there so I can’t confirm that.

I guess the best strategy might be to group up with at least three players, one at the wayshrine in/out of Cyrodiil, player two go to the current active dolmen and complete it and close it, the third goes directly to Bruma while player two is at the active wayshrine. Bruma should pop then.

Player one just stays at wayshrine to make sure other dolmens don’t pop and to communicate since these things can’t be seen from the map while traveling across Cyrodiil. It’s a just in case backup plan.

EDIT: typo

As you were trying a lot to help me, i went to cyro and spend two hours there. With no avail. No bruma.

As i said earlier, i will stop to try to get it, because the more i try, the more its makes me feel like i loose my time and dont enjoy the game.

So i will just play without cyro. I am 70, not as good as everyone on cyro for sure, and i dont want to loose my health in rl to try to get something that is really bugged on my side.

All my thanks to all of you who tried to find a solution. But the one who should help me, do nothing. So its over.

Necrotech_Master

@katanagirl1 has the best suggestion

its likely the dolmens there pop only pseudo randomly, they probably start the next dolmen based on if someone is nearby

its impossible that it would be bugged just for you, because the dolmen appears on the map for everyone at the same, its very unlikely a lot of people in cyro would be doing dolmens though unless it happened to be active as they were passing by

and doing the quests in bruma wont help spawn the dolmen, they are totally irrelevant for that (its more something to kill time being in the area and a good way to get gear and cyrodiil citrus for war tortes)

i do see in the long run this is going to end up making coldstone/coldfire siege weapons a lot harder to get due to the dolmens being less frequent

if its being troublesome i would just advise to take a break from it, or just wait at the alliance base for awhile and see if it comes up instead of trying to run to every dolmen that is active (as cyro is too huge to be constantly doing that, along with potentially running into enemy players)

at this point with the way the dolmens are its going to be pure luck, and 11% chance of getting it is not great, its likely even less than that if its only pseudo random and spawning based on players in proximity to it

Lauranae

OMG!! i was so obsessed by that. in my mind i did give up. But yesterday, you were so helping me, i felt bad to reject that.

So this morning, i decided to go on Bruma with a lv 49.

And guess what made 50 by dropping at the base. So i was there thinking, should i stay or leave as i leveled as i am on below 50.

As my goal was not killing, i decided to stay. Bruma was blue So i captured it. No bruma. But this one did not have the map fully achieved, so i decided to discover each dolmen ... yes again.
The first one just after bruma, just started when i arrived. So i killed it. And i saw briefly that another dolmen was spawning, because of a very new addon, who alert of events in the world.

I was trying to find it and YES! It was it" Bruma. My BRUMA LOL LOL
Happily i had a recall stone and seems it was my day, bruma was still yellow.

I did it. And got my so wanted title Savior of NIm.

Why i have it today and not for so many days ? i do not know. But one thing is sure, without your desire to help me, even with me beeing stuborn, i would not had it.

So, Gran'ma learn again to never give up hope. THank you very much.


NB : the young Duchess stole the title of the huntress, but it was for the good cause

Necrotech_Master

congratz!

RNGesus smiled upon you today lol, sometimes you just need to take a step back, you cannot force the RNG to work for you lol

katanagirl1

Awesome! I’m so glad you got your dolmen and your title!

I am also glad you didn’t give up and kept on gaming. I’m not 70 yet, but I’m not too far behind you.

For future reference to others, the dolmens definitely will spawn if no other one is active and a player is in the vicinity of one such as the one at Bruma. If you are standing on the central flag the daedra will leave the anchor and start attacking you at the flags there once it spawns. The one between Nikel and Brindle will spawn just from players riding from one to another if they ride close enough.

Again, congratulations @Lauranae and well done! A happy ending for your story!