Honestly? I've given the PC version a try, and it's just not worth it.

Azurephoenix999

I've been a long time Xbox player, but since getting a PC last year, I've stopped playing for the most part, as now I mostly game on that.

I've wanted to switch to PC, but the fact that I can't bring any of my progress with me is a massive obstacle. It means that all of my accomplishments; everything I'd invested time, effort, and money to obtain; would have to be done a second time.

I have a master crafter on my Xbox save, and to reobtain that on PC means all the time spent researching, farming mats, spending ungodly amounts of gold in guild stores to get all the stuff I need to research, the recipes, the rare ingredients. The other skill lines I'd have to grind all over again are also painful to think about (Psijic Order, Undaunted, Assault/Support, and the Antiquarian stuff are among the worst). I've spent an embarrassing amount of money in the crown store, so if I wanted to get all of my stuff in the PC version, I'd have to spend all of that money again.

Then there's all the quests I'd have to do all over again. Not just for one character, but if I wanted to rebuild all of my characters? That would be insane, and I have way too many other obligations to even consider it. I've even tried it recently and nope, it just takes way too long. I have new content that I want to experience, and to me, a player who likes to do my questing in chronological order, having to retread all of this old ground is just too damn tedious.

Finally, there's the items that you simply can't get anymore. The Welwa mount, the free houses from those community challenges, all those pets (like the green brassilisk I never take off), the cakes from past jubliees, the indriks, my god there's way too many!

The PC version has some nice addons, and it's convenient being with my other games on what is now my primary gaming system. If there was a way to port my progress over, if I was simply continuing from where I left off on the Xbox, I would pick the PC version in a heartbeat...but I'm not. I'm starting from square one, and I hate it. I'd have to invest way too much time, energy, and money just to get back to where I was before, and even then I still wouldn't have everything. Honestly the thought of going through everything again just to get back to doing the stuff I actually want to do, gives me a headache.

So no, after trying the PC version out, I don't think I want to continue playing. I think I'd much rather go back to the "inferior" console version. [snip]

[Edited for baiting]

wildbear247

Yeah that's a bummer. A cross-platform migration option would be really cool indeed. I seem to remember they offered a limited migration option for ESO when the game made it's way over to consoles back in the day.

Onyx_Werewolf_Gnome

[snip]
I 100% felt for you & wish they would change this so you can move over & join us on PC. Until the last line. [snip] This is Zos doing this not players. We should be on the same side here

[edited to remove quote and baiting]

Azurephoenix999

HedgehogFeet wrote: »

[snip]
I 100% felt for you & wish they would change this so you can move over & join us on PC. Until the last line. [snip] This is Zos doing this not players. We should be on the same side here

I wouldn't feel that way if so many people weren't so insistent about how much better the PC version is, and how our already existing characters and accomplishments don't matter, and how we should just go and move over already.

LashanW

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

Danikat

I agree it's annoying that there's no way to transfer an account between platforms. (And as someone else said this isn't specific to the PC version - the transfer from PC to console was a one-off and since then it's not been possible to move between any versions of the game.)

I don't know what the technical limitations behind the scenes are, or what the limitations might be (I've heard that in some games if you want to transfer you're presented with a list of characters you have to rename because their names are taken) but I think ZOS should find a way to make it possible, even in a limited fashion.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

Thanks for stopping by. Safe travels!

phaneub17_ESO

I like PC because...
1. Custom Keybindings, even with a controller I can rebind just about everything to a more comfortable setup.
2. Changing my graphic settings, I never really liked high Shadows or Liquid detail, I turn those low or off.
3. The default FPS cap is 100, I changed my cap to 165 though its generally 120-150 most of the time.
4. With Stadia linked, I can play ESO on my PC or with razer kishi on my phone anywhere I go.
5. Addons are last, they're nice to have but not necessary, I can do with or without just the same.

Aardappelboom

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

HedgehogFeet wrote: »

[snip]
I 100% felt for you & wish they would change this so you can move over & join us on PC. Until the last line. [snip] This is Zos doing this not players. We should be on the same side here

I wouldn't feel that way if so many people weren't so insistent about how much better the PC version is, and how our already existing characters and accomplishments don't matter, and how we should just go and move over already.

Well crossplay would be a very good addition, both allowing to play together cross-platform as taking progression with you independent of the platform you're on.

But why would pc nescessarily be better? It's the same game, the only real difference is add-ons, graphics (if you're still on the xbox one) and controller type . Of those three only add-ons have a lasting appeal, but if you haven't played on pc you won't miss them anyway.

DestroyerPewnack

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I like PC because...
1. Custom Keybindings, even with a controller I can rebind just about everything to a more comfortable setup.
2. Changing my graphic settings, I never really liked high Shadows or Liquid detail, I turn those low or off.
3. The default FPS cap is 100, I changed my cap to 165 though its generally 120-150 most of the time.
4. With Stadia linked, I can play ESO on my PC or with razer kishi on my phone anywhere I go.
5. Addons are last, they're nice to have but not necessary, I can do with or without just the same.

You can play ESO on your phone?
What?

Kiralyn2000

DestroyerPewnack wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I like PC because...
1. Custom Keybindings, even with a controller I can rebind just about everything to a more comfortable setup.
2. Changing my graphic settings, I never really liked high Shadows or Liquid detail, I turn those low or off.
3. The default FPS cap is 100, I changed my cap to 165 though its generally 120-150 most of the time.
4. With Stadia linked, I can play ESO on my PC or with razer kishi on my phone anywhere I go.
5. Addons are last, they're nice to have but not necessary, I can do with or without just the same.

You can play ESO on your phone?
What?

On his PC, streamed to his phone.


edit: but yeah, no matter how much "better" one platform or another might be for a particular game, if there's lots of 'live-service' progress that can't be transferred, it's not worth switching to another one.
(I've got a PC, but got pulled into playing some pandemic co-op Fallout 76 on my PS4. Even though I'd vastly prefer to use keyboard+mouse for an FPS, I've got so many Season unlocks/recipes/etc that even though I'm only playing it solo now I'd never want to move over.)


edit: that said, not sure I've seen this kind of thing:

I wouldn't feel that way if so many people weren't so insistent about how much better the PC version is, and how our already existing characters and accomplishments don't matter, and how we should just go and move over already.

coop500

Honestly OP, i see just as many console people sniping at PC users to come to console to escape the inflation of crowns/material costs.
[snip]

[edited for baiting]

Elsonso

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

So no, after trying the PC version out, I don't think I want to continue playing. I think I'd much rather go back to the "inferior" console version.

Having played ESO on XBox, yes, the console is "inferior" in many ways related to how I like to play MMORPG games. They come with one nice benefit, though. Loading times are super fast because there are no big data addons that suck up time during loading screens. I tolerate it because I like addons, and even write my own, but when I log into ESO on XBox, which is every day, it reminds me how fast the game transitions can be.

Console transfer to PC, or to the other console, is probably not going to be a thing. I don't even expect it from XBox to PC, even though they have the same parent company. I would expect PC to XBox to happen long before the reverse.

If I were in your shoes, I would stay on XBox. Just because you play on PC does not mean you can't play on XBox. Well, unless you sold, gave away, or smashed the XBox, and then I would buy a new one and then play on both PC and XBox.

DestroyerPewnack wrote: »

You can play ESO on your phone?

Yes. I have played ESO via Stadia on my Galaxy Tab S2, which is so old it qualifies me for senior discounts at most restaurants, if I bring it along. I have a copy of ESO I purchased on Stadia and it is linked to my PC ESO account. I can play the account from either PC or Stadia, although obviously not at the same time.

Smoky

I've got nothing against either platform, I play on PS5 and would swap to PC if I could bring everything with me but no way I'm gonna lose everything I have built up in 5 years playing. I only chose console originally as I had a couple of friends who played on console, I split my time between PC and PS5 so I'm not massively bothered about having to stay on console but I do think ZOS are missing a relatively easy way to appease a fairly large part of the console base who would like to switch.

Hopefully it is something they may look at again this year (I know very optimistic but hey you never know), for me the add-ons would be very handy and some fun to use but essentially my PC could run the game better and smoother so I don't feel like I am missing out as such but it would be extremely well received.

peacenote

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

HedgehogFeet wrote: »

[snip]
I 100% felt for you & wish they would change this so you can move over & join us on PC. Until the last line. [snip] This is Zos doing this not players. We should be on the same side here

I wouldn't feel that way if so many people weren't so insistent about how much better the PC version is, and how our already existing characters and accomplishments don't matter, and how we should just go and move over already.

I think if you look around you'll find just as many PC players who would say that they strongly support a migration option, they do understand how hard it would be to start over, and regularly advocate for mod functionality to come to base game for all.

Like me.

phaneub17_ESO

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

DestroyerPewnack wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I like PC because...
1. Custom Keybindings, even with a controller I can rebind just about everything to a more comfortable setup.
2. Changing my graphic settings, I never really liked high Shadows or Liquid detail, I turn those low or off.
3. The default FPS cap is 100, I changed my cap to 165 though its generally 120-150 most of the time.
4. With Stadia linked, I can play ESO on my PC or with razer kishi on my phone anywhere I go.
5. Addons are last, they're nice to have but not necessary, I can do with or without just the same.

You can play ESO on your phone?
What?

On his PC, streamed to his phone.

Actually no, I'm not streaming from my PC to my phone (like with Steam link), I'm playing on my phone via the Stadia App which uses Stadia's cloud server hardware and only requires a stable internet connection, like at work when nobody is looking. I connected the same account I use on Steam with non-pro Stadia, so I can play it anywhere.

this is the controller I use with my phone:
iPhone: https://www.razer.com/mobile-controllers/razer-kishi/RZ06-03360100-R3M1
Android: https://www.razer.com/mobile-controllers/Razer-Kishi/RZ06-02900100-R3U1

ADarklore

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

The3sFinest

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

Then I guess they are okay with losing revenue with Ubisoft, Bungie, Final Fantasy to name a few? They all have cross save. Why do so many people blame Sony? Zos gives a valid reason why they do not allow it, stop being so bent on blaming Sony for everything.

Xebov

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

Its not that easy. If you are on a Console you are a Customer to the console manufacturer, everything you buy puts a share in their pocket. They have little interest in letting you go without a compensation. Since the game has a independent database for each region and plattform (6 in total) its also very messy to move things around the databases given that you can have duplicate names this way that wont work.

ADarklore

The3sFinest wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

Then I guess they are okay with losing revenue with Ubisoft, Bungie, Final Fantasy to name a few? They all have cross save. Why do so many people blame Sony? Zos gives a valid reason why they do not allow it, stop being so bent on blaming Sony for everything.

Because that's not how the game was set-up and is probably very difficult to implement after establishment. Remember that it took over a year after PC launch for ZOS to even get ESO working on consoles, at one point they were considering dropping consoles altogether because they couldn't get it to work. Back when the game first launched they were supposed to launch on all platforms at once, but shortly before launch they ended up scrapping console version and had to completely re-write it. Still, even with this 'cross save' concept, those companies still have to share revenue... whereas ZOS makes more money with selling directly to customers. Also, I imagine with this type of cross-save environment, Microsoft and Sony have much more control than Zenimax wanted to allow.

PrimusTiberius

I would pay to switch from PS4 to PC but 5 years on PS4 and...
- Master Crafter
- 28 houses, 6 fully furnished, 3 warehouses
- All the Mundus stones in one home, crafting stations in most of the finished homes
- 18 fully leveled toons, 4 are 100% golden gear, 5 are 50% golden gear
- Most toons have a fully leveled mount
- Achievements galore
- I've collected all the statuettes to date
- Two toons are fully leveled with scrying & excavation
- Sticker book is about 75% complete
- AND I'm not going through that Psijic leveling quest again

Troodon80

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

Was going to comment similar. Would be better to say "Starting over isn't worth it (for me)." Would also be shorter, too. The title, as a summary, doesn't really give a good representation of what's being said -- even though I agree that starting over isn't worth it, for me, even between PC-EU to PC-NA. It's a statement that "PC isn't worth it." With no real context until you read the body.

The fact that it's PC isn't really relevant. You'd have the same problems starting over if you moved from Xbox to PS4/5.

LashanW

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

Xebov wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

Its not that easy. If you are on a Console you are a Customer to the console manufacturer, everything you buy puts a share in their pocket. They have little interest in letting you go without a compensation. Since the game has a independent database for each region and plattform (6 in total) its also very messy to move things around the databases given that you can have duplicate names this way that wont work.

Jeez, you people need to relax sometimes. I'm not blaming any company. Was just saying title had nothing to with actual topic.

If I was in management of a console company I wouldn't allow my customers to jump ship so easily either.

The3sFinest

ADarklore wrote: »

The3sFinest wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

Then I guess they are okay with losing revenue with Ubisoft, Bungie, Final Fantasy to name a few? They all have cross save. Why do so many people blame Sony? Zos gives a valid reason why they do not allow it, stop being so bent on blaming Sony for everything.

Because that's not how the game was set-up and is probably very difficult to implement after establishment. Remember that it took over a year after PC launch for ZOS to even get ESO working on consoles, at one point they were considering dropping consoles altogether because they couldn't get it to work. Back when the game first launched they were supposed to launch on all platforms at once, but shortly before launch they ended up scrapping console version and had to completely re-write it. Still, even with this 'cross save' concept, those companies still have to share revenue... whereas ZOS makes more money with selling directly to customers. Also, I imagine with this type of cross-save environment, Microsoft and Sony have much more control than Zenimax wanted to allow.

The game was delayed due to a backlash on the required subscription, due to glitches/bugs already in PC version, it had nothing to do strictly because of console issues, they were forced to delay to get PC in optimal shape, lol, it was delayed by 6 months at first, then again. Destiny did not have cross save at the beginning either, that came much later.

BronzeCaiman

I would stay on console if I were you, I have played since beta on PC and let me tell you. Addons have completely destroyed this game, from the economy to endgame PvE and PvP. they have been a blight and now the game is balanced around them. Think of them as using training wheels in the Tour de France.

Tandor

Danikat wrote: »

I agree it's annoying that there's no way to transfer an account between platforms. (And as someone else said this isn't specific to the PC version - the transfer from PC to console was a one-off and since then it's not been possible to move between any versions of the game.)

I don't know what the technical limitations behind the scenes are, or what the limitations might be (I've heard that in some games if you want to transfer you're presented with a list of characters you have to rename because their names are taken) but I think ZOS should find a way to make it possible, even in a limited fashion.

The initial transfer from PC to console was to an empty database, that's the critical point. ZOS don't have a system in place that could transfer to a populated database and say they have no plans to invest the time and resources into developing one.

I suspect there are also contractual restrictions between ZOS and the console providers designed to prevent each provider from "poaching" customers from the others.

RicAlmighty

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

This is not true at all. Destiny 2 has full cross save. You can create characters on any platform (XBox, PS, PC, Stadia) and then use those same characters on any other platform that you've linked to your Bungie account. In fact, the console companies make more money because players are required to own the base game and all DLC on each platform they want to play on to have a seamless experience. The platform companies have nothing to do with it, if a game developer wants to implement cross-save they are free to do so. The only restriction that Sony has put on is for "Cross Play" which is completely different and refers to playing against people on other platforms.

Zos may not wish to do this for business or back-end technical reasons, but everyone blaming the "console companies" is simply wrong.

endgamesmug

I understand im the same back on xbox, limited edition things and everything done. But i just bit the bullet and regrinded everything i could besides i had nothing to do back on xbox except block the next toxic abuser 😆, zonechat people over here on pc are awesome guilds are hopeless and i do miss the comradery and ingame mic of xbox but it is what it is

Blinx

I'm also on xbox and tried pc a few months ago as well, needless to say I'm back on Xbox, but will dabble on pc every now and then.
The graphics blew me away on pc, I was shocked at how breathtaking summerset, and several locations look, and armor looked slightly different, and more detailed., the loading times seriously disappointed me tho.
But I found myself reaching for certain items all the time, items I don't have on PC, and with the cost there, would probably take me a very long time to reaquire, if ever.
so for all the reasons you gave plus the fact I would be a pauper on PC,I'm back on the box

Lumsdenml

ADarklore wrote: »

LashanW wrote: »

Isn't your title misleading?

Your problem is ZoS doesn't allow account transfers across platforms.

PC version itself has nothing to do with it.

WRONG! MICROSOFT and SONY don't allow transfers!! Period! ZOS would LOVE to do it, because it would mean they would get to keep all the revenues from the game. But that's the exact reason why MS and Sony won't allow it- they would be losing revenue. So stop blaming ZOS when it's not their decision.

Actually, I'm pretty sure this is like 95% a Sony issue.... hopefully cross save will be coming now that MSFT owns ESO.

ArchMikem

There's an actual technical reason why accounts can't be transfered across platforms. Look it up in the FAQ.