What if companions hit the crown store, do you think they would be considered PTW?

Casdha

I suspect companions will hit the crown store eventually, maybe some darker versions and maybe some with different skill sets (Class roles). If they do, do you think they are good enough to be considered PTW?

edit: yes I see my spelling mistake, but I can't correct it

Casdha

I don't care, I want more options and I'm willing to pay.

What made me think to ask this question is I find that Miri's Fear is rather helpful to my 2H DK.

She tends to interrupt heavy attacks as well as other NPCs' fear on me. This is rather handy when I'm in a group zone or public dungeon with a bunch of trash mobs. She also has a rather handy escape that keeps her alive with all but one shots (or high damage single shot) of a WB or a Group Dungeon Boss.
edit: I took her into Crypt of Hearts (for the pledge) with me (solo) today and she only died once on the first boss.

grizzledcroc

Probably considering they can be pretty helpful . Tbh I feel the whole point of em is to make the paid content feel more padded to sell more of said dlc/chapters. There would be no real reason to add them to the store. It would be just weird paying for something you have to grind rep and get gear and do there quests.

Lady_Galadhiel

I don't care, I want more options and I'm willing to pay.

I want more companions

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Makes no difference what we want or not. Let them eat cake is the motto at the moment.

DocFrost72

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

Won't be used in competitive trials,can't be used in pvp period. There is no competitive way to leverage them as an advantage, this is decidedly not p2w.

Danikat

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

I suspect that when Blackwood is rebranded as DLC companions will be split out and sold seperately like the necromancer and warden classes. (Although I don't think anything was taken out of Summerset and Greymoor, so maybe not.)

When/if that happens, or if new companions are sold in the crown store I think it depends on how it's done. If it's like buying Blackwood where the purchase gives you the ability to gain a companion but you have to do a quest to unlock them and then level them up, gear them etc. etc. then it's basically a way of buying new content and no different from the current companions system or something like dungeon DLC where doing the dungeon can give you new set gear.

If it's possible to buy a fully levelled and geared companion (or buy the companion, then buy the level upgrade and a set of gear seperately) that would be pay to win. If they do that I hope it's like the sky shard packs where you have to do it manually once with that companion before getting the option to pay to skip the process.

TequilaFire

IDK, they are so easy to unlock.
If they do go on the store , it will be mostly cosmetics.

You would think in this day and age you could edit your post without refreshing the page.

Luke_Flamesword

There is no need for paid companions - we will get them regulary with chapters (and maybe with Q4 dlcs) and having them makes players to want more crown costumes, style or mounts. Also every new companion will be a big thing, so I can imagine that some people will pay for whole chapter just for this new cool companion.

Casdha

I don't care, I want more options and I'm willing to pay.

TequilaFire wrote: »

IDK, they are so easy to unlock.
If the do go on the store , it will be mostly cosmetics.

Right now they share skills with a Sorc DK and a NB that can be helpful. What if they added a Templar or a Warden to the store?

L_Nici

To consider companions pay to win, the player buying them must be pretty incompetent. There is absolutely no need for a companion in all situations of the game. You can do everything on your own, you could since Tamriel Unlimited launched.
So they have basically no efficiency impact, in fact if I would use one, it would propably just get into my way and annoy me so much till I deactivate it.

CaffeinatedMayhem

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

Companions don't prevent other players from joining groups and have you played with a companion? If a player is LESS skilled than a companion they are literally (LITERALLY) a fruit.

Edit: I mean like a strawberry bouncing on a keyboard, not a slur.

kargen27

Some people think outfits in the crown store are pay to win.

Companions offer no real advantage over another player. They should be considered mostly cosmetic.

whitecrow

They will never hit the crown store so nothing to worry about.

It would, but I don't think they will be in the store. They'll write quests with a character that can become your companion. As it should be.

AcadianPaladin

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

No.

Poll should have straightforward yes, no, other options.

Companions are not a combat multiplier.

Crown store companions would be no more potent than vanilla companions.

I love companions but I don't use them because of their combat power.

Varana

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

To consider companions as "winning" really does stretch the concept, though.

Especially if it's only about having a different companion than the "free" ones.
It's like considering crown store mounts as PTW - they give you an advantage becuase they're mounts (more speed! more inventory! more swag!) but essentially the same as the freely available ones.

Elsonso

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

To be "pay to win" the Companion needs to offer something of tangible benefit and advantage that is not available in the game.

I assume they would not have put these in the game if they could not be monetized, but unless they sell a Companion with some special ability, I can't see a path to "Pay to Win" for them.

My guess is that they will be in the Crown Store and Crown Crates in far more quantity than otherwise. They will have different stories, different rapport triggers, different endlessly repeated inane comments, and be a different class than the others. They will not do anything special.

I should qualify this by saying that they won't be any worse than already existing "P2W-ish" stuff.

colossalvoids

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

A mix of it's obviously not p2w and I don't care, not because stilly reasons like pvp or caps but just cause it doesn't really help to an able player, even dummy us more pay to win in reality than this.

I hope they will become some quest reward or a clown store addition and not a "feature" for new dlc and chapters.

starkerealm

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

The existing companions are so weak they're only marginally useful.

Now... if ZOS started adding companions that did damage competitive with a player, that would be P2W (regardless whether it was just in the crown store or part of a DLC), but the existing framework doesn't do enough to really risk P2W.

Dojohoda

ABSOLUTELY and I am not saying that because I want all future companions to be earned in game.

jenwa72ab14_ESO

starkerealm wrote: »

The existing companions are so weak they're only marginally useful.

Now... if ZOS started adding companions that did damage competitive with a player, that would be P2W (regardless whether it was just in the crown store or part of a DLC), but the existing framework doesn't do enough to really risk P2W.

To be clear if they added them at a cost.

I'm sort of leaning with the majority though, this is PvE only, no big.
Was Blackwood PTW?

If they hit the market, I feel they are going to be absurdly high and that is anything over $10.

Luckylancer

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

Warden was pay to win
OP jewel traits were pay to win
Necro bash was pay to win
Malacath was pay to win
Gaze of sithis is pay to win

Companions are not pay to win

Honorable mentions: CR sets, thrassian stranglers, kilt. Paying to win againts mobs is not that much big deal

spartaxoxo

Yes, anything that adds extra ablilites not avaible to everyone would be bad.

Yes. Because they give additional permanent buffs to your character when maxed that don't require having them out to benefit from.

Which I think your poll is a bit leading because it doesn't include that information and it's not something people think about really. So I think a lot of people are just thinking of like using them in dungeons

stybbe17b16_ESO

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

They are so useless I wouldn't care if they were in store. They have no use except maybe allow you to kill a world boss 1% faster.

gamergirldk

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

LOL Pay to loose...

SammyKhajit

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

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Edaphon

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Yes. Because they give additional permanent buffs to your character when maxed that don't require having them out to benefit from.

The buffs are even more useless than the companions themselves.

virtus753

But the only way to get companions right now is by buying Blackwood for real-world money.

How would putting them in the crown store be p2w if they aren't now? Especially as they would presumably be able to be acquired with gold by trading someone who has crowns, which isn't possible now, so that sounds like even less p2w if people are able to get them without actually spending RWC.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

limited poll optoins, here is what i think.

You can still complete every bit of ESO content without a companion so they are not P2W. They might allow some players to be able to avoid grouping up with others but that is not the same as you have to have a companion or you will not be able to complete content.

Casdha

I don't care, I want more options and I'm willing to pay.

I understand for most competitive players they are useless but I was thinking more on the lines that with if each one has one really useful skill then that is effectively having six slots on a bar rather than 5.

Like I said the fear, which AOE interrupts almost everything, is useful to me and I otherwise only have a ranged interrupt with a bow or a melee with a bash.

bmnoble

No, companions counting towards group cap limits and not being able to use them in PvP negates any PTW.

Don't think they will hit the crown store till at least after the next Chapter gets released.

Why? Because that would allow people to get a companion without buying Blackwood, quite a few people decided to buy the chapter once they realized they could make gold off companion gear sales.

While the prices of companion gear have dropped off quite a bit you can still sell plenty of blue gear for over 50K - 100K and purple gear is still high value in a lot of the popular traits. That's a hell of a lot more lucrative than most player sets in the game sales wise.


Then again they could always stipulate that you need Blackwood to buy them or just place there starter quests in Blackwood to force you to buy the chapter anyway.

My point is they are not going to separate the selling point of the chapter for a lot of people for awhile just like they did with buying the new classes until they are certain they got as many people as possible to buy the chapter.