Seals of endeavors

Lady_Galadhiel

How many seals you think we should be able to earn a day?
Curious about your ideas/thoughts of this new system.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Other/your idea

60 per day per character

colossalvoids

Not sure player input is valuable in that department, it's just a way to suppress some heat on loot boxes regulation and get more people into actually buying them in the end.

PrinceDamien

60 a day is fine

Seeing how you can only do 3/5 of the dailies per day it's 60.
What we don't know right now is the weeklies and how much they will offer.

Edit: oh, the question was "should" and not "will". I see.
Well... 60x30 is 1800 seals. Then we got the weeklies we don't know yet.
Can't remember the prices on the store, but 1800+ per month seems fair for a free-to-play option imo.

sarahthes

60 a day is fine

You want them fast, you pay. You want them slow, you earn.

I had thought a 1:1 gems/seals ratio on PTS just by guessing but the daily earnable was a lot lower. Based on pts I was estimating a 6-8 month grind to get a radiant apex.

Or $1000. Take your pick.

Tandor

60 a day is fine

The number of seals per day is pretty irrelevant on its own, having said which 60 is probably about right given that I've no wish to be diverted from whatever else I'm doing just to earn seals, but it's actually more about the relationship between the number of seals and the prices being charged for the items they buy.

From a quick look I can see that I might accidentally earn enough in a week to get a riding lesson, that aside I really have no interest in the items being sold.

Lady_Galadhiel

100 (all 5 daily activities)

I would like to be able to complete all 5 daily activities listed if I wish so,some days I may have time to complete something I wouldn't do normally like going into Cyrodiil or in a Battleground.

Rezdayn

Other/your idea

Dont even put them in the game if you want me to spend 6-8 months to earn the radiant lol. Just dont bother even putting them in.

six2fall

210 (3 activities a 70 each)

Doesnt matter even if they do increases how many we can earn they will just increase the cost of items to match.

Elsonso

Other/your idea

Unlimited, but then I despise Crown Crates.

wolfie1.0.

210 (3 activities a 70 each)

I have to be honest with yall. I voted for this option because I am feeling greedy this morning.

essi2

We don't even know what the weekly will give and how many you can do, kinda weird there is a cap at all though, since FO76 doesn't have a cap (other than doing all of them per day/week).

redspecter23

60 a day is fine

I like to think the prices are based on the amount of seals we could earn each day. ZOS has already sat down and said how many days it should take to earn X reward. If we were to earn more seals per day, the prices would just be higher to compensate.

I do like that we have choices. 3 out of 5 seems fine to me. I choose the best 3 for me. If we could do all 5, it removes the choice while creating an artificial sense that you are progressing faster. You aren't. If you could do all 5, the cost of the purchased items would just be higher to compensate for the extra currency you would have.

Lumsdenml

60 a day is fine

It is amazing how people will complain about free stuff.... IT'S FREE STUFF, PEOPLE!

jssriot

Other/your idea

ZOS keeps us busy enough with events and new content, I don't need another thing to do that's going to take time away from my plans for my various toons. I'm fine with 60 a day. The endeavour store prices need to come down. I know ZOS just wants to pressure us to spend money on Crowns anyways, but this is ridiculously blatant. "Oh well you COULD just seals to buy these items but if you don't want to wait that long you CAN just give us your IRL money for Crowns to get crates." ZOS being ZOS, as usual.

Lady_Galadhiel

100 (all 5 daily activities)

Lumsdenml wrote: »

It is amazing how people will complain about free stuff.... IT'S FREE STUFF, PEOPLE!

Thanks for your input but this poll is just for fun and to see what people think or what type of idea they have.
The system is here and it won't change no matter how much people will complain or are unsatisfied with it,I think most are aware of that.

Midni

60 a day is fine

I am semi-excited about this system as it is configured today. It outlines a certain degree of freedom in choosing what goals to pursue and keeps a few accessible options open. What I find exciting is that right now it is accessible in a way that opens up exploration to aspects of the game that are interesting but may be ignored to some degree. In doing so, endeavours could have the potential to make the experience in the game a tad extra meaningful, make me a bit more observant of the world and its creatures as I am defeating them (ahem), and potentially discover new ways in which I can play. What I hope is that it will not turn into a marketing scheme that would get me to grind instead of play, or entice me to spend monies. Either way, I am intrigued, and I hope it is a long term investment in the community rather a way of making a quick buck.

SirAndy

60 a day is fine

It's free stuff, so there's that ...

Recremen

100 (all 5 daily activities)

I like the idea of 100 a day because it's a nice number for parsing how many days of play it would take to earn an item of tier X. So it would be 80 days for an apex mount by the current setup, and not counting weeklies or any other source of seals. Right now it's 133.3 repeating days, which is just icky on a couple of levels. But whatever, it's a neat starting point, we'll see if/how the system evolves over time.

phaneub17_ESO

60 a day is fine

They're giving us a free alternative to buying with real cash for one currency that is used to gamble for another currency. They still going to want people to buy Crowns/Sub for Crowns to then buy Crates to then gamble for Gems from the whales and impulsive buyers, so there needs to be a limit to ensure they still do that.

Goregrinder

60 a day is fine

60 a day is fine considering you can expedite that process with your wallet should you chose to.

AlnilamE

60 a day is fine

3 out of 5 is a sweet spot for me. It will allow me to complete most of them without going out of my way, so it doesn't feel like a chore.

Lady_Galadhiel

100 (all 5 daily activities)

Ah well seems that we get a different amount of endeaovers each day,today its 15 per not 20.

Red_Feather

Other/your idea

Today is 45. Even less worth it today than yesterday. I wonder how bad tomorrow will be. It is kind of fun to watch now. Like watching a person slip and fall.

phaneub17_ESO

60 a day is fine

PTS did have other currencies like Transmute Crystals in addition to Endeavors so I'm not surprised that today has 5,000 exp in place of 5 Endeavors.

Faulgor

Other/your idea

The amount is fine, my issue is the insanely bad conversion rate for low rarity items. If you spend your Endeavors for anything else than Apex mounts, you are getting a bad deal.

Lady_Galadhiel

100 (all 5 daily activities)

Red_Feather wrote: »

Today is 45. Even less worth it today than yesterday. I wonder how bad tomorrow will be. It is kind of fun to watch now. Like watching a person slip and fall.

I am just glad these activities don't take any extra time and I get them done by normally doing my stuff I do each day.

wolfie1.0.

210 (3 activities a 70 each)

Faulgor wrote: »

The amount is fine, my issue is the insanely bad conversion rate for low rarity items. If you spend your Endeavors for anything else than Apex mounts, you are getting a bad deal.

except you won't be able to even have the OPTION to get one until probably 2022. thats several crown crate seasons from now.

Tethilia

Other/your idea

The rate for endeavors isn't too bad, the issue is an item becoming unavailable before you have a chance to buy it.

I suggest being able to lock in an item and then all endeavors points go towards buying that item. If the item expires but you have locked it in, you can still work towards it and redeem it, however if you change the lock before the item is purchased, then you lose a portion of your saved up endeavors. This way we could be confident that we can get the item we want and still play at a pace that is reasonable for us.

With the system as it stands either you play an unreasonable amount for a single item or you just ignore endeavors altogether.

Wing

210 (3 activities a 70 each)

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

60 per day per character

no

person plays one character for 3 hours, 60 seals.

person plays 6 alts for 5 min each, 360 seals (plus writs of course)

there is already too much greed incentive to just have max mule characters and not even play them.

kargen27

60 a day is fine

Rezdayn wrote: »

Dont even put them in the game if you want me to spend 6-8 months to earn the radiant lol. Just dont bother even putting them in.

Fun thing is you can get them doing normal stuff in the game. Just forget about them and play as usual and eventually you get something for free.