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Wow, unacceptable.
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Might be joking in comments.
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Avoranti✭✭✭✭✭I hate they continuously blame certification for why they can’t get a fix out. No other developer seems to have this problem.43 -
Avoranti✭✭✭✭✭Like, what about those who paid to have access to a craft bag? So we all have to jump through hoops just to use it for over a month?! And why was this shared on Twitter but not here?Edited by Avoranti on April 29, 2021 4:41PM25
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Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blackwood is not a fix, & Sony needs to hold this release until ESO is fixed.
Contact Sony.Edited by Wolfpaw on April 29, 2021 4:44PM11 -
Destai✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Like, what about those who paid to have access to a craft bag? So we all have to jump through hoops just to use it for over a month?! And why was this shared on Twitter but not here?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7235452#Comment_7235452
To her credit, Jessica did comment on the major thread.
Whether they'll give us some recompense for the impaired paid content remains to be seen.10 -
Avoranti✭✭✭✭✭To her credit, Jessica did comment on the major thread.
Fair enough, but wouldn’t there normally be an official blog post or something for an announcement like this? I mean, it’s a pretty big deal and posting it in a thread like that to me seems a bit, idk, like trying to bury it just enough for the majority of console players not to see it? Perhaps that wasn’t the intention at all. Either way, their solution is unacceptable. If they can flip bug fixes for crown store within a day or other bug fixes within a few days, this one should be no different. They are prioritizing U30 and Enhancement over fixing a pretty major bug they created with the previous patch. Hopefully they see the impact this decision is having (Twitter is raging) and change it.
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WhyMustItBe✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why don't they just roll back the patch that broke it in the first place?
This is a multi BILLION dollar studio, recently purchased by a multi HUNDREDS of billions of dollar company.
The fact this coincides with the radical increase in microtransaction prices and more and more things being gambling gems only (500 gems for a polymorph, which equates to around $200 USD depending on your luck in the gambling casino) is almost inconceivable.
It is becoming clear what Microsoft's intent in buying this game truly was.
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✭✭✭✭✭WhyMustItBe wrote: »Why don't they just roll back the patch that broke it in the first place?
This is a multi BILLION dollar studio, recently purchased by a multi HUNDREDS of billions of dollar company.
The fact this coincides with the radical increase in microtransaction prices and more and more things being gambling gems only (500 gems for a polymorph, which equates to around $200 USD depending on your luck in the gambling casino) is almost inconceivable.
It is becoming clear what Microsoft's intent in buying this game truly was.
Not really.
Zenimax Online Studios has been upping the ante on monetization all by itself for multiple years now. This isn't a new trend, which means Microsoft likely has nothing to do with it. Zenimax Media as a whole was adding monetization systems over the past several years in preparation to go public or sell. That's about the only connection that may have some basis. In general games-as-a-service titles are fraught with monetization problems as well as service problems. Reasons why single-player and couch co-op games are not and will never be dead.13 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WhyMustItBe wrote: »Why don't they just roll back the patch that broke it in the first place?
This is a multi BILLION dollar studio, recently purchased by a multi HUNDREDS of billions of dollar company.
The fact this coincides with the radical increase in microtransaction prices and more and more things being gambling gems only (500 gems for a polymorph, which equates to around $200 USD depending on your luck in the gambling casino) is almost inconceivable.
It is becoming clear what Microsoft's intent in buying this game truly was.
Microsoft is the reason we are getting endeavors. ZeniMax has been doing this on their own.13 -
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Suna_Ye_Sunnabe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LOL... you would think this is some game being run out of a basement. You should know by now, Zos, that people want a functional game BEFORE they want new content!Angua Anyammis Ae Sunna15 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭Rich and the boys killing it as per usual. Nothing to see here.Edited by ClawOfTheTwoMoons on April 29, 2021 9:08PM15
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Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Suna_Ye_Sunnabe wrote: »LOL... you would think this is some game being run out of a basement. You should know by now, Zos, that people want a functional game BEFORE they want new content!
Agree, add that to the cost if you want the full experience:
Playstation Plus/Xbox Gold etc..
B2P
ESO Plus &/or DLC's (multiple year)
Multiple Expansions
Optional Cash shop & Special addition content updates.
Not every player needs new content constantly, at the cost of performance. I would gladly open my wallet for better performance.
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✭I thought that with all the issues consoles (particularly PS) had with Oblivion and Skyrim that ZOS would have put a extra bit of effort into ensuring this game would not go down that same path.
This news is just sad, and shows a lack of customer care. No posts from ZOS on these forums only on Twitter?
I am on PC and feel bad for all those on consoles.
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✭✭✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »
Submit a patch. Get it approved. Most games takes a week or two between those things to put stuff out. They can sometimes get them to expedite things, but I'd assume that costs extra.0 -
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✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »
Submit a patch. Get it approved. Most games takes a week or two between those things to put stuff out. They can sometimes get them to expedite things, but I'd assume that costs extra.
Reading between the lines a little bit, I think the "certification timing" issue is really that ZOS is in crunch mode trying to get Blackwood finished in time for it to be certified before the console release date. As a result, they can't spare anyone to prep a hotfix and usher it through certification until Blackwood is out the door, at which point the hotfix won't be certified until after Blackwood releases anyway.7 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭the1andonlyskwex wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »
Submit a patch. Get it approved. Most games takes a week or two between those things to put stuff out. They can sometimes get them to expedite things, but I'd assume that costs extra.
Reading between the lines a little bit, I think the "certification timing" issue is really that ZOS is in crunch mode trying to get Blackwood finished in time for it to be certified before the console release date. As a result, they can't spare anyone to prep a hotfix and usher it through certification until Blackwood is out the door, at which point the hotfix won't be certified until after Blackwood releases anyway.
That's the most likely issue but it's pretty insulting to console player's intelligence to then pass the blame onto Sony/Microsoft then. It's not the only game that develops for both pc and console that most of us have played. We have seen other devs push stuff out sooner than that, especially when it's needed.
Anyway, it seems much more likely that this is the actual case.
Edited by spartaxoxo on April 30, 2021 1:16AM7 -
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✭Gotta love how they pin the blame on sony and microsoft for everything instead of owning up to their enormous mistakes. Would be nice if blackwood got pulled from their stores to force zos into actually fixing their crap for once.11 -
Rkindaleft✭✭✭✭✭This is actually ridiculous. You are selling a broken product. Your team doesn't communicate on the forums to an acceptable level and bugs that have been in the game for months, years, go unfixed.https://youtube.com/@rkindaleft PlayStation NA. I upload parses and trial POVs sometimes.6/9 Trial Trifecta achievements.
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sure fire way to kill console support.
PS4 is practically already a ghost town...I recently made the start over jump to PC, and the difference in population is actually staggering. Elden Root, for example, on PS4 is not even close to how jam packed it is on PC. The undaunted enclave there is just a mass of people...you can hardly see the quest givers at prime time...
You're taking a already dwindling population and wrapping your hands around its neck.
"Killing it" just took on a entirely new meaning
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✭✭✭✭✭ApostateHobo wrote: »Gotta love how they pin the blame on sony and microsoft for everything instead of owning up to their enormous mistakes. Would be nice if blackwood got pulled from their stores to force zos into actually fixing their crap for once.
Yes, because that worked so well with CP 2077.
WhyMustItBe wrote: »Why don't they just roll back the patch that broke it in the first place?
I don't think the issue is that they don't have a fix. The issue seems to be that, between their QA and the need to get Blackwood to XBox, Playstation, and Stadia for certification by a certain date, there is no time to push anything else out. A rollback would just be pushing out one thing, which would require testing and certification, followed by a rollback of the rollback shortly afterwards, also requiring testing and certification.The Elder Scrolls Online: Grind Road
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