Feedback: Vampires & PVP Health Recovery (PVP)

Sahidom

Vampire characters will suffer an extreme loss to their Health Recovery with the PTS changes to "Battle Spirit" when reducing Health Recovery by 50%. Would it be plausible to have a "which ever one is greater" scenario for Vampires characters e.g. Stage 1 ("Battle Spirit"), Stage 2 ("Battle Spirit"), Stage 3 ("Vampire -60%"), and Stage 4 ("Vampire -100%); The proposed change would still achieve the PTS objective to reducing the overall effectiveness of Health Recovery in PVP content game play; BUT it won't completely wreck Stage 2/3 Vampire character.

Vampire characters operating at Stage 2+ already suffer other penalties for advancing their stage. I simply don't feel the extra penalty is warranted; therefore, I hope you consider the "which ever one is greater" scenario to lessen the impact on vampire characters.

KurtAngle2

Not really, Vampires at Stage 2/Stage 3 will be considered a bit more now that HP Regen is effectively even more of an useless stat in PvP

Sahidom

KurtAngle2 wrote: »

Not really, Vampires at Stage 2/Stage 3 will be considered a bit more now that HP Regen is effectively even more of an useless stat in PvP

I feel your math is off; at Stage 2/Stage 3 you've taken a reduction in Health Recovery; then reduce the remainder by 50% in addition of the Stage reduction, the two combined place an extreme reduction to the character's.

I'm only asking ZOS to review the PTS impact will have on vampire characters in PVP gameplay with the accumulated debuff to their Health Recovery.

Vevvev

I stopped relying on health regeneration a long time ago since ZOS decided to slap us in the face at stage 4 with the -100% HP regeneration debuff. Heals over time are your HP regeneration now as well as the Pale Order Ring if you have it.

ResidentContrarian

Disagree.

Vampirism is a choice. When you made that build choice, it was supposed to come with consequences. Now it actually does, and it's too much?

Then drop vampire.

You won't because it still has its advantages, even without a massive amount of health regen stacked with it.

Sahidom

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

Disagree.

Vampirism is a choice. When you made that build choice, it was supposed to come with consequences. Now it actually does, and it's too much?

Then drop vampire.

You won't because it still has its advantages, even without a massive amount of health regen stacked with it.

The choice argument is too cliche. Consider this, Vampires were designed without the added 50% decrease in PVP content. With the reduction being added, the PTS change amplifies the staged penalties over the top from its original design.

divnyi

Sahidom wrote: »

Consider this, Vampires were designed without the added 50% decrease in PVP content.

Consider this, everything was designed without the added 50% decrease in PVP content. They just though this is a good idea for some reason.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

I play at stage 4, this has no effect on me whatsoever.

jwellsub17_ESO2

Greetings,

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I play at stage 4, this has no effect on me whatsoever.

My main lives at stage 4 as well, but I use vampiric sets to heal me up as I fight, so like you this will have no effect on me...

Having said that, I think the issue is going to be the fact that when Battle Spirit kicks in, everyone else we will get the extra 5K buffer and the immediate regen, Stage 2+ vampires will not. Others will go in at full health plus the extra 5K, where we will go in with whatever health we had but will be 5K below full health.

Again, my main lives at stage 4, so this bothers me not at all, just saying that I can see why some would have issues with it.

Ryuvain

Yeah, my vamps always have self heals. Even my non vamps don't use health recovery and just heal. (They're wolves, but still. Don't play mortals.)