Anyone try DSA or AS or even any of the other 2 piece weapons with 2 5 piece sets?

ck37090

Was thinking of trying the vDSA fire staff on front bar and just forgo the monster set and run two five piece sets... Possibly MS and medusa (don't really want to run 2 heavy though) or pFG... On paper it sounds good to have the extra spell damage and full uptime on both sets but wondering if anyone already has experience and insight on it... Thanks

Firstmep

Not sure that having to recast a weak dot every 4 seconds is worth it, in the case of VDSA staff.

ck37090

In theory you would use it as the spammable instead of elemental

AinSoph

You would use vMA lightning so the spammable turns into a decent aoe paired with Ele ring.

ck37090

AinSoph wrote: »

You would use vMA lightning so the spammable turns into a decent aoe paired with Ele ring.

You mean with the BRP weapon?

Jaimeh

I use the master lightning destro with clench skill on some boss fights that need aoe, like HOF triplets burn, and pair it with 2 sets forgeoing the monster set. It's decent for such situational fights, haven't used it for anything else though.

WrathOfInnos

The Master Lightning staff with Shock clench is pretty common for trial trash builds. On a pure AoE setup you don’t need a Maelstrom back bar (assuming no heavy attacks), so a 5pc set like BSW or Master Architect is completed with the back bar Inferno staff, this allows another 5pc set and a 2pc monster set active on both bars, with the master lightning front bar.

Tbh this setup isn’t as good as it was a few months ago because shock ring is now significantly better than shock clench. However this doesn’t mean the BRP staff is good, in fact if you spam shock ring several times in a row the BRP set effect will never deal any proc damage.

All that being said, I’d avoid using Master Inferno in PVE. Flame Clench tends to knock enemies out of AoEs, and Flame Reach should only be cast every 10s (the instant damage is way too weak to be a spammable). Even shock clench w master Lightning is not recommended for most bosses because it gives less damage than other single target spammables (exceptions would be AoE boss fights like vHoF triplets or vSS Nahviintaas, where shock clench is great).

Bobby_V_Rockit

I was considering the same on stam dd today, maelstrom bow backbar and either asylum or black rose 2h on front

ck37090

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

The Master Lightning staff with Shock clench is pretty common for trial trash builds. On a pure AoE setup you don’t need a Maelstrom back bar (assuming no heavy attacks), so a 5pc set like BSW or Master Architect is completed with the back bar Inferno staff, this allows another 5pc set and a 2pc monster set active on both bars, with the master lightning front bar.

Tbh this setup isn’t as good as it was a few months ago because shock ring is now significantly better than shock clench. However this doesn’t mean the BRP staff is good, in fact if you spam shock ring several times in a row the BRP set effect will never deal any proc damage.

All that being said, I’d avoid using Master Inferno in PVE. Flame Clench tends to knock enemies out of AoEs, and Flame Reach should only be cast every 10s (the instant damage is way too weak to be a spammable). Even shock clench w master Lightning is not recommended for most bosses because it gives less damage than other single target spammables (exceptions would be AoE boss fights like vHoF triplets or vSS Nahviintaas, where shock clench is great).

Thank you...I appreciate the insight, I might try it on trash pulls to play around with... Any thoughts on the AS staff using force pulse for the spammable(since it is a viable spammable as is) with two five piece sets and no monster and maelstrom bb?

Crood_Oyl

After the new update I wanted to get the VH daggers for the popular builds that were coming out, but had never run it before. I was 700cp at the time. I run a stam necro. I found with my old DW/Bow setups (I always carried Rele, AY, VO sets with me) I was doing easily enough damage but was struggling with damage mitigation in veteran VH. I say easily because the chain link ladies were never a problem, I now realise that the whole arena is just one big damage check.

I farmed Kinras pretty quickly but needed these daggers to finish the build. I realised I had BRP DW weapons. I just used both I had (dagger and mace) instead of transmuting another dagger, thinking the VH daggers would drop quickly and I would move on (long story is I ran it 27 times before they dropped, so long my CP increased so much I was running veteran VH way more easily), not sure who I was kidding with that thought seeing as it took me 54 runs of HRC to get the 1h AY axe.

Anyway, I found that the damage increase from them as well as the damage mitigation was great for this arena with a lot of the incoming damage being aoe (the lightning strikes, the Minotaur fire floor thing, Mabroogha’s ring damage thing, etc.) that you cannot stop, whereas the slightly higher direct damage was preventable by simply killing the add (archer snipe, flame mage, monster dude in chains, etc.).

As I said, I ran Vateshran around 20 times on normal and not one of the 1h weapons from that set dropped....(There’s more than one 1h set that can drop). I finally started to try vVH just to see if I could do it, and they finally dropped after about the 5th run there. I also placed in the weekly leaderboards when I finished it with no deaths and they were in the reward too...

Finally, I tried the VH DW weapons and decided I don’t actually enjoy using the skill that they buff...... hahaha. I do enjoy the BRP weapons though. I think the set buff is pretty solid seeing as it’s a reliable change (%damage increase and incoming damage reduction) rather than something based on rng.

So I’m now using Briarheart/VO/Pale/monster helm. Purely for solo arenas and dungeons. I just finished vMA with this build and got my perfected bow. I also carry kinras, VH daggers, and BRP daggers with me just in case.

Septimus_Magna

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I was considering the same on stam dd today, maelstrom bow backbar and either asylum or black rose 2h on front

Ive tried BRP DW (front bar) and vMA bow (back bar) on my stamplar and its decent in terms of dmg output, I expected a bigger difference so its not very convincing. You do get a lot of resistances which is pretty nice.