I'm tired to be carried by procs on my magdk

UntouchableHunter

When ZOS will do something for Magdk? No burst, our heals are trash, no mobility. Magdk is good for pve but for pvp without grodthar, overwhelming, crimson, Elf Bane, skoria, malacath is the worst class to play.

Waffennacht

Wut about Draugrkin?

UntouchableHunter

Waffennacht wrote: »

Wut about Draugrkin?

Yes is another proc set.

Magdk are not viable to play with base sets.
I have all this sets I tried everything, I watch the magdk streamers and the bests ones return to procs.

They are trying everything but magdk is in a bad spot right now unfortunately.

I don't care to be the worst class or one of the worst classes, the problem it is the gap so huge now that made try Stamdk and the difference is crazy. And don't need one proc set at all with Stam dk

The_Lex

Mageblade says hello.

WabanakiWarrior

I've been running a light armor non proc magdk this patch and I've been wrecking kids. Tried the overwhelming/elf bane/grothdar/malacath heavy armor cheese when the patch first dropped, it's strong no doubt, and in a coordinated group its downright unfair, but I hated the playstyle.
I'm running BSW front bar, armor master sword and board back bar, 1 piece trainee, ring of the pale order. Monster set, Balorgh or grothdarr depending on the day. Lots of sturdy, infused jewelry, charged front bar for sustain.
It's not meta, but 4.5k spell dmg (w/o Balorgh), cap resistances, 35k mag, 28k hp is a tough build in any patch.

ivramirez

UntouchableHunter wrote: »

When ZOS will do something for Magdk? No burst, our heals are trash, no mobility. Magdk is good for pve but for pvp without grodthar, overwhelming, crimson, Elf Bane, skoria, malacath is the worst class to play.

Another week in 2021 with the same Procs et problem...

kaithuzar

For Magdk, you guys have always had low critical chance so using Malacaths band or even elf bane, just makes sense from a damaged boosting perspective.
Yes, I agree with you those things are being used to buff proc set damage for an easy I-win-button making gameplay stale & horrible.
But as someone already stated, take a look at magblade, same boat, if we aren’t using flame blossom, calurions, or some other proc garbage every X seconds, if I stand there casting concealed or swallow soul & you cast whip while keeping igneous & dragon blood up; you’re likely going to beat me; but at least I would call that “more of a fair fight” that we used to have.

The fact that as a magblade I’m getting better (higher & more consistent) damage by having malacaths band rather than being successful with my ~50% crit chance & almost all crit damage modifiers in game is a complete bastardization of the class!

Zer0_CooL

Waffennacht wrote: »

Wut about Draugrkin?

Not relyable in a PvP environment with many enemies and purge.

Vanagrand

Waffennacht wrote: »

Wut about Draugrkin?

Great for duels, crap for 1vsx situations.

Raideen

Magicka in general need buffing.

Stahlor

Mag needs a weapon skill line with an execute.

Fawn4287

Raideen wrote: »

Magicka in general need buffing.

Health needs a hard cap so that the reward of landing a well timer burst combo becomes the PvP goal and actually earns kills again, the hardest hitting magica burst combo isn’t doing much to 40 k health shimmering shield stamden with crimson that is built for pure survival.

Stahlor

Fawn4287 wrote: »

Health needs a hard cap so that the reward of landing a well timer burst combo becomes the PvP goal and actually earns kills again, the hardest hitting magica burst combo isn’t doing much to 40 k health shimmering shield stamden with crimson that is built for pure survival.

It's for sure not crimson and shimmering, that makes it hit hard!

Rhaegar75

Cheese and more cheese...as an average player I feel I need to swim in cheese if I want a chance to actually survive and do reasonably well with a non OP class.

I met a few hard hitting MagDk in the last few months and the combination seem the same/similar...pick and mix between Groth, Overwhelming, Elf Bane, Crimson, Draug and even some Obliovion Foe. Malacath and heavy seem a must and yet no way near as strong as wardens and/or necros.

On the plus side...maybe more variety than in the past in terms of sets

hexentb16_ESO

UntouchableHunter wrote: »

When ZOS will do something for Magdk? No burst, our heals are trash, no mobility. Magdk is good for pve but for pvp without grodthar, overwhelming, crimson, Elf Bane, skoria, malacath is the worst class to play.

Wait till june my dude. When the stamina and magika stats get more unified you'll be plenty OP.

Faded

Stahlor wrote: »

Mag needs a weapon skill line with an execute.

Or any magicka weapon choice that doesn't suck. That'd be great.

SshadowSscale

Magblade says hello who needs proc sets just to be somewhat playable.... oh and also magnecro who has had a useless blastbones morph for over a year now

UntouchableHunter

SshadowSscale wrote: »

Magblade says hello who needs proc sets just to be somewhat playable.... oh and also magnecro who has had a useless blastbones morph for over a year now

At least magblade has a execute 😢

UntouchableHunter

Stahlor wrote: »

Mag needs a weapon skill line with an execute.

I would say magdk needs one, but if ZOS put the execute in a weapon skill line I will pick for sure.

UntouchableHunter

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

UntouchableHunter wrote: »

When ZOS will do something for Magdk? No burst, our heals are trash, no mobility. Magdk is good for pve but for pvp without grodthar, overwhelming, crimson, Elf Bane, skoria, malacath is the worst class to play.

Wait till june my dude. When the stamina and magika stats get more unified you'll be plenty OP.

What do you mean?

I'm doing some tests on the pts and with this new crazy health recover magdk is literally dead. Magdk is a dot class with no burst at all, no execute, no mobility, how a magdk will kill somebody stacking 6-7-8 healthy recovery?

Magdk is one of the weak classes today and will be the worst for sure next patch.

Vildebill

Can only confirm, without crimson, overwhelming, grothdarr, malacath and sets like it the class performance is just not good enough. The only thing that looks like burst I use is molten whip, the extremely bad designed PvE morph.

Even if I still kill people it feels like I have to do way more than I would have needed on other classes.

UntouchableHunter

Vildebill wrote: »

Can only confirm, without crimson, overwhelming, grothdarr, malacath and sets like it the class performance is just not good enough. The only thing that looks like burst I use is molten whip, the extremely bad designed PvE morph.

Even if I still kill people it feels like I have to do way more than I would have needed on other classes.

We put the other players with 4%, 5% health and we are not able to execute, the Leap is not working most of the time and sometimes we need to use to get resources. Then the staminas players use vigor and got full health with rally, so we need to work again.

But when the out us with 50% health we are about to die for sure. Our heal is a shame and for us is hard to back to the fight.

I'm just learning to play with my stamdk now, but is so easy the heals are good, the mobility is better, Dzswing hit like a truck and Executioner is a game over.

DreadDaedroth

Combat team should bring back the old Dk wings.

Kartalin

Best current healing approach for mDKs seems to be 1) run higher health recovery on back bar, and 2) make sure to hit igneous/frag shield before coagulating. Also shield ult or magma shell to help turn the tables.
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LightYagami

What ZOS did to magdk:

Nerfed wings
Nerfed leap
Nerfed spike
Nerfed stun
Nerfed all DoT (this is a DoT class and suffered the most)
Added high cost
No execution
Lack of range
Low mobility (as a melee class with low damage)
Low burst and most DOT can be purged

I don't see many magdks at PvP, and I guess every TWO HUNDRED skills I saw on death recap showed ONE magdk skill...

If some people still think that magdks need to be further nerfed, ask yourself how often do you see magdks on your death recap?

I heard that Magdks are still good at PvE tanks, but ZOS killed this class at PvP.

LightYagami

hexentb16_ESO wrote: »

UntouchableHunter wrote: »

When ZOS will do something for Magdk? No burst, our heals are trash, no mobility. Magdk is good for pve but for pvp without grodthar, overwhelming, crimson, Elf Bane, skoria, malacath is the worst class to play.

Wait till june my dude. When the stamina and magika stats get more unified you'll be plenty OP.

If you've read the patch note, you'd know that light and heavy armor will have some buffs and penalties, light armor users will be damaged heavier by stam skills. Medium armor won't have any penalty but only buffs.

RIP mag PvP.