Reason I had to stop playing :(

sammeh1991 · December 2020

Dear community,

I truly joined ESO in the UK where ping was good but it started in Australia where it was really bad ping and so it took me until late this year to get involved.
I loved the levelling experience, the voice acting, the graphics, the dungeons, classes, mix of classses, being able to truly forge your own hero but what killed it for me was my own community

I reached a point where I hit 180CP and I believe i went even higher than that, I think I got to about 230-240 CP or even more I dont recall. I had to leave because everyone guild/community i joined in-game would not help me get better.

I detest the idea of blaming others for not making me stick but no one in any of the guilds I joined would help me. I joined random groups to try get better gear but no one wanted to help me, and that sucked because I was trying to learn the game. No one would explain the best paths to take, or guide me on professions and no one told me about getting gear sets, of which there are so many that my mind just went ka-boom.
The game is a masterpiece, but for newer players it's a jungle and most of thos guilds have no time for us trying to learn. SURE I could youtube some guides but if the people I am engaging with will not help me because I'm lower than them then what the heck do I do?

I downloaded addons to assist with skyshards/lorebooks, I looked up dungeons to learn the bosses, professions and class guides but no one in my guilds wanted to help. I didn't understand auctioning and asked if someone could help me understand but no one would reply they'd leave me just googling trying to make sense of it.

I feel a bit sad. The game is beautiful but people won't help new players. That ONE TAMRIEL thing did more harm than good because I got so lost and confused on what I should do! I bought the game and Morrowwind then I got the kinda hang of it and wanted to do that scrying thing so got Greyfall i think it is, but the questing order, the constant NPC spam in cities " DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU" etc - overwhelming but no one helped.

And so I left. I had no idea what was going on, even though I LOVED the quests and voice acting, I had no idea what on earth I was doing. And progression in terms of character power, yeah I couldn't get an answer from anyone in-game on how auction houses worked so no one would tell me what I should be doing long-term/grinding.

Sheezabeast · December 2020

Guild Finder could have helped you find a guild specifically geared for helping newish players, or players wanting carried through most content like you. You have options still, but it sounds like you made up your mind. Too bad you didn't explore all your options.

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe · December 2020

I find it somewhat extraordinary you joined multiple guilds and groups and never once found anyone you could make friends with and learn the game with, if such was your goal. The blame doesn't fall on others for you not learning.

Mindcr0w · December 2020

Obligatory inb4 "thread close" and "can I have your stuff".

jekyto · December 2020

I think i understand you. And if is not your last decision, i can highly recommend you to join discord servers as the tank club and healer's haven. Youll find what you seek there

OtarTheMad · December 2020

I am really sorry that you experienced this and I can say that this game can be really overwhelming for new players, I know cause I bought a second account and was kind of blown away by how much I took for granted as a vet player.

It sounds like you made up your mind but if you are willing to give it another go these guys here had good ideas. There are definitely guilds that like to help new players. Guild Finder is a good tool, could also cruise the forums here... down the bottom of the main forum page you will see guild recruitment, also not a bad place either.

Hope you find a good guild to help you... good luck.

Kalik_Gold · December 2020

Watch YouTube, twitch and join discord’s and self learn.

Bekkael · December 2020

If you like the voice acting and such, why not just follow the main storyline and finish it (assuming you haven't already)? Or pick any alliance, and go do the story quests for that zone. I got all the way to Champion 500 and something, just happily questing away. 🤗 You don't need any special gear, nor do you need any other players to help you go through quests.

If you don't care to quest, there really are some great guilds with helpful players, ready and willing to help an eager newbie. I assume you are on PC? If so, there's definitely a huge community of players to connect with.

I'm on Xbox, and we have a pretty nice community of players too. 👌 Anyway, best of luck to you and don't give up!

GenjiraX · December 2020

I’ve found the Players Helping Players sub forum here very helpful.

Nyladreas · December 2020

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe wrote: »

I find it somewhat extraordinary you joined multiple guilds and groups and never once found anyone you could make friends with and learn the game with, if such was your goal. The blame doesn't fall on others for you not learning.

It's actually very very common that players feel extremely isolated in this game. Most people really don't have the time to respond or anyhow interact at all, unless you're sitting on discord 24/7, only then somebody might notice.

I've played this game since after launch and I'm facing the exact same problem as OP lately. I have basically nobody to talk to or play with anymore. All my old friends are gone because of the garbage state of the game, and the others seem to show 0 will to become my new friends, guilds are basically silent whenever I speak or even say hello.

Knowing this I can't even imagine what it must be like for a new player 😭 the most social interaction I've had in-game in the past 3 months are toxic hate tells in PvP because I use a meta breaking build.... Kind of makes me want to go back to NA even though I physically live in Europe now.

(PC-EU)

LoneStar2911 · December 2020

My guilds are so helpful and chatty that I have to sometimes minimize/hide the chat box so it stops distracting me.

PC-NA.
Serenity's Haven
The Dragon Lair
Ankle Biters
Unstable Unicorns

Jeremy · December 2020

sammeh1991 wrote: »

Dear community,

I truly joined ESO in the UK where ping was good but it started in Australia where it was really bad ping and so it took me until late this year to get involved.
I loved the levelling experience, the voice acting, the graphics, the dungeons, classes, mix of classses, being able to truly forge your own hero but what killed it for me was my own community

I reached a point where I hit 180CP and I believe i went even higher than that, I think I got to about 230-240 CP or even more I dont recall. I had to leave because everyone guild/community i joined in-game would not help me get better.

I detest the idea of blaming others for not making me stick but no one in any of the guilds I joined would help me. I joined random groups to try get better gear but no one wanted to help me, and that sucked because I was trying to learn the game. No one would explain the best paths to take, or guide me on professions and no one told me about getting gear sets, of which there are so many that my mind just went ka-boom.
The game is a masterpiece, but for newer players it's a jungle and most of thos guilds have no time for us trying to learn. SURE I could youtube some guides but if the people I am engaging with will not help me because I'm lower than them then what the heck do I do?

I downloaded addons to assist with skyshards/lorebooks, I looked up dungeons to learn the bosses, professions and class guides but no one in my guilds wanted to help. I didn't understand auctioning and asked if someone could help me understand but no one would reply they'd leave me just googling trying to make sense of it.

I feel a bit sad. The game is beautiful but people won't help new players. That ONE TAMRIEL thing did more harm than good because I got so lost and confused on what I should do! I bought the game and Morrowwind then I got the kinda hang of it and wanted to do that scrying thing so got Greyfall i think it is, but the questing order, the constant NPC spam in cities " DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU" etc - overwhelming but no one helped.

And so I left. I had no idea what was going on, even though I LOVED the quests and voice acting, I had no idea what on earth I was doing. And progression in terms of character power, yeah I couldn't get an answer from anyone in-game on how auction houses worked so no one would tell me what I should be doing long-term/grinding.

If it's just tips on how to improve your character you could always just ask for advice here on the forums. I'm sure you'd get a long line of people willing to help.

Why do you feel One Tamriel did more harm than good?

RashosMedaresh · December 2020

If you want to give it another try Crazy Elves is a nice small Social and Casual guild.

Nordic__Knights · December 2020

Jeremy wrote: »

sammeh1991 wrote: »

Dear community,

I truly joined ESO in the UK where ping was good but it started in Australia where it was really bad ping and so it took me until late this year to get involved.
I loved the levelling experience, the voice acting, the graphics, the dungeons, classes, mix of classses, being able to truly forge your own hero but what killed it for me was my own community

I reached a point where I hit 180CP and I believe i went even higher than that, I think I got to about 230-240 CP or even more I dont recall. I had to leave because everyone guild/community i joined in-game would not help me get better.

I detest the idea of blaming others for not making me stick but no one in any of the guilds I joined would help me. I joined random groups to try get better gear but no one wanted to help me, and that sucked because I was trying to learn the game. No one would explain the best paths to take, or guide me on professions and no one told me about getting gear sets, of which there are so many that my mind just went ka-boom.
The game is a masterpiece, but for newer players it's a jungle and most of thos guilds have no time for us trying to learn. SURE I could youtube some guides but if the people I am engaging with will not help me because I'm lower than them then what the heck do I do?

I downloaded addons to assist with skyshards/lorebooks, I looked up dungeons to learn the bosses, professions and class guides but no one in my guilds wanted to help. I didn't understand auctioning and asked if someone could help me understand but no one would reply they'd leave me just googling trying to make sense of it.

I feel a bit sad. The game is beautiful but people won't help new players. That ONE TAMRIEL thing did more harm than good because I got so lost and confused on what I should do! I bought the game and Morrowwind then I got the kinda hang of it and wanted to do that scrying thing so got Greyfall i think it is, but the questing order, the constant NPC spam in cities " DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU" etc - overwhelming but no one helped.

And so I left. I had no idea what was going on, even though I LOVED the quests and voice acting, I had no idea what on earth I was doing. And progression in terms of character power, yeah I couldn't get an answer from anyone in-game on how auction houses worked so no one would tell me what I should be doing long-term/grinding.

If it's just tips on how to improve your character you could always just ask for advice here on the forums. I'm sure you'd get a long line of people willing to help.

Why do you feel One Tamriel did more harm than good?

HOW ONE TAMRIEL HURT GUILDS

1 BEFORE ) players was open about things ( gear , cp, ect , ect ) that mattered but not wanting other alliance to know so that your alliance was on top of leader boards as they was shared , NOW ) players seem to keep things to themselves more so that not EVERYONE in the games like them
2) BEFORE) there was less players all wanting good for their alliance meaning less toxic acts going on ie down talking others over being helpful ,NOW) theres an big pop thats mixed with all alliances where pvp actions become toxic outside of pvp ie trader flipping , chat being full of toxic chat about this pvp guild being better then that one or ect, ect. the chance in pop is the big factor tho as with old system new players would be WELCOMED in an small pop but with big pop new players are just holding vet players back so there no NEED for them but time itself is another factor here as VET players dont enjoy NEW players that hold them down but having smaller pop that was LOCKED would give every player value , not seen as holding them back

Jeremy · December 2020

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

sammeh1991 wrote: »

Dear community,

I truly joined ESO in the UK where ping was good but it started in Australia where it was really bad ping and so it took me until late this year to get involved.
I loved the levelling experience, the voice acting, the graphics, the dungeons, classes, mix of classses, being able to truly forge your own hero but what killed it for me was my own community

I reached a point where I hit 180CP and I believe i went even higher than that, I think I got to about 230-240 CP or even more I dont recall. I had to leave because everyone guild/community i joined in-game would not help me get better.

I detest the idea of blaming others for not making me stick but no one in any of the guilds I joined would help me. I joined random groups to try get better gear but no one wanted to help me, and that sucked because I was trying to learn the game. No one would explain the best paths to take, or guide me on professions and no one told me about getting gear sets, of which there are so many that my mind just went ka-boom.
The game is a masterpiece, but for newer players it's a jungle and most of thos guilds have no time for us trying to learn. SURE I could youtube some guides but if the people I am engaging with will not help me because I'm lower than them then what the heck do I do?

I downloaded addons to assist with skyshards/lorebooks, I looked up dungeons to learn the bosses, professions and class guides but no one in my guilds wanted to help. I didn't understand auctioning and asked if someone could help me understand but no one would reply they'd leave me just googling trying to make sense of it.

I feel a bit sad. The game is beautiful but people won't help new players. That ONE TAMRIEL thing did more harm than good because I got so lost and confused on what I should do! I bought the game and Morrowwind then I got the kinda hang of it and wanted to do that scrying thing so got Greyfall i think it is, but the questing order, the constant NPC spam in cities " DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU" etc - overwhelming but no one helped.

And so I left. I had no idea what was going on, even though I LOVED the quests and voice acting, I had no idea what on earth I was doing. And progression in terms of character power, yeah I couldn't get an answer from anyone in-game on how auction houses worked so no one would tell me what I should be doing long-term/grinding.

If it's just tips on how to improve your character you could always just ask for advice here on the forums. I'm sure you'd get a long line of people willing to help.

Why do you feel One Tamriel did more harm than good?

HOW ONE TAMRIEL HURT GUILDS

1 BEFORE ) players was open about things ( gear , cp, ect , ect ) that mattered but not wanting other alliance to know so that your alliance was on top of leader boards as they was shared , NOW ) players seem to keep things to themselves more so that not EVERYONE in the games like them
2) BEFORE) there was less players all wanting good for their alliance meaning less toxic acts going on ie down talking others over being helpful ,NOW) theres an big pop thats mixed with all alliances where pvp actions become toxic outside of pvp ie trader flipping , chat being full of toxic chat about this pvp guild being better then that one or ect, ect. the chance in pop is the big factor tho as with old system new players would be WELCOMED in an small pop but with big pop new players are just holding vet players back so there no NEED for them but time itself is another factor here as VET players dont enjoy NEW players that hold them down but having smaller pop that was LOCKED would give every player value , not seen as holding them back

I thought all One Tamriel did was make all the zones act like the DLC and Cyrodil zones and scale players upward to 160 CP. How would that effect the Cyrodil population or cause players to be more secretive about their builds and indifferent to newer players? I don't understand.

LadyNalcarya · December 2020

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

sammeh1991 wrote: »

Dear community,

I truly joined ESO in the UK where ping was good but it started in Australia where it was really bad ping and so it took me until late this year to get involved.
I loved the levelling experience, the voice acting, the graphics, the dungeons, classes, mix of classses, being able to truly forge your own hero but what killed it for me was my own community

I reached a point where I hit 180CP and I believe i went even higher than that, I think I got to about 230-240 CP or even more I dont recall. I had to leave because everyone guild/community i joined in-game would not help me get better.

I detest the idea of blaming others for not making me stick but no one in any of the guilds I joined would help me. I joined random groups to try get better gear but no one wanted to help me, and that sucked because I was trying to learn the game. No one would explain the best paths to take, or guide me on professions and no one told me about getting gear sets, of which there are so many that my mind just went ka-boom.
The game is a masterpiece, but for newer players it's a jungle and most of thos guilds have no time for us trying to learn. SURE I could youtube some guides but if the people I am engaging with will not help me because I'm lower than them then what the heck do I do?

I downloaded addons to assist with skyshards/lorebooks, I looked up dungeons to learn the bosses, professions and class guides but no one in my guilds wanted to help. I didn't understand auctioning and asked if someone could help me understand but no one would reply they'd leave me just googling trying to make sense of it.

I feel a bit sad. The game is beautiful but people won't help new players. That ONE TAMRIEL thing did more harm than good because I got so lost and confused on what I should do! I bought the game and Morrowwind then I got the kinda hang of it and wanted to do that scrying thing so got Greyfall i think it is, but the questing order, the constant NPC spam in cities " DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR YOU" etc - overwhelming but no one helped.

And so I left. I had no idea what was going on, even though I LOVED the quests and voice acting, I had no idea what on earth I was doing. And progression in terms of character power, yeah I couldn't get an answer from anyone in-game on how auction houses worked so no one would tell me what I should be doing long-term/grinding.

If it's just tips on how to improve your character you could always just ask for advice here on the forums. I'm sure you'd get a long line of people willing to help.

Why do you feel One Tamriel did more harm than good?

HOW ONE TAMRIEL HURT GUILDS

1 BEFORE ) players was open about things ( gear , cp, ect , ect ) that mattered but not wanting other alliance to know so that your alliance was on top of leader boards as they was shared , NOW ) players seem to keep things to themselves more so that not EVERYONE in the games like them
2) BEFORE) there was less players all wanting good for their alliance meaning less toxic acts going on ie down talking others over being helpful ,NOW) theres an big pop thats mixed with all alliances where pvp actions become toxic outside of pvp ie trader flipping , chat being full of toxic chat about this pvp guild being better then that one or ect, ect. the chance in pop is the big factor tho as with old system new players would be WELCOMED in an small pop but with big pop new players are just holding vet players back so there no NEED for them but time itself is another factor here as VET players dont enjoy NEW players that hold them down but having smaller pop that was LOCKED would give every player value , not seen as holding them back

Before 1T you couldn't even do pve content with people from other alliances, so your alliance mattered more, not less... Even pvp bonuses (scrolls, keeps and such) worked in pve so "buff campaigns" were a thing. Cyrodiil performance used to be better, yes, but it had nothing to do with 1T.
Nostalgia is a powerful force, but I'm not sure how empty Gold/Silver areas, not getting any loot/exp from mobs when you outleveled them (or not dealing any damage to mobs of higher lvl), not being able to play with your friends from different alliances and the lack of other QoL things that people take for granted are a good thing.

fierackas · December 2020

I think you need to ask yourself why you are playing the game and what do you want to get out of it - nothing winds me up more than seeing people in a mad rush to reach some mythical endgame nirvana that doesn't actually exist.

markulrich1966 · December 2020

the small ingame chatbox is not really great to write comprehensive instructions.

I learned most by

1.) googling, there are wikis full of insightful instructions (structured approach)

2.) following eso facebook groups, where I snap up an info now and then more randomly (unstructured approach)

I also observed that it depends on the server where you play

XBOX EU and NA show a different behaviour in communication.

On EU, after a worldboss was defeated, people often say thanks, good job, or use a celebration emote. On NA, everbody just leaves. So on EU I have much more the feeling that people actually enjoy to play together.

Nevertheless I never used guildchat on EU either to learn, but preferred the 2 methods described above.

relentless_turnip · December 2020

I started 2 and a half years a go and I have to say my experience is the polar opposite of yours, though admittedly I learned mostly from watching videos and reading guides etc...

If you fancy giving it another go add me pc EU @relentless_turnip

I am not playing a lot at the moment because I have a family, it's Christmas and the game doesn't work very well in the content I enjoy. I will definitely help you when I am online though... These days my guilds are all PvP so I can't offer you much of a community in regards to learning the basic mechanics etc... As others have said there are plenty of guilds who would love to help.

BlondyIronBlood · December 2020

It's probably because I have played since 2015, but I learned through just playing the game and then whenever I saw/experienced something I didn't understand, I would get excited about the feature and explore every aspect of it. Like thieving and killing (through each respectable DLC) was such a joy to experience, the bashing from guards, the fencing of items, it was all very cool and baffled me at the time.
I can, however, see how the game has changed over the years, some things seem to have gotten easier, other things strangely more difficult, and other aspect of the game appear to be the same, no matter how *** or good I find those aspects.

Sorry, I'm ranting now.
My point is, there are some good people out there in the game, and the comments already made above are probably what you need(well, most of them are helpful). I understand that you are saying that you had to leave, but since you made this post, I want to believe there is a small part of you still reaching out for a last good reason to play the game, why else make a post like this?
I personally did best and play my best when chatting/playing with friends, so I dunno, maybe that's what you need?? A buddy to teach you/learn alongside you???
If that's hard to gain tho, I dunno, hit me up, I'll be more than happy to help!

MorganaBlue · December 2020

I played this game solo for over a year and a half. No PUGS, no friends and no guilds, not even for trading. I did my first normal dungeon at +CP 600ish which is when I joined my first guild.

I spent that time wandering around Tamriel doing all the overland content I could, and studying the forums and build guides daily so I could LEARN - sucking up all the theory I could, because I knew I wanted to play competitively someday.

When I finally did join a guild, I was already self-sufficient in terms of knowledge. All I needed was to polish up the knowledge I had and start grouping up with people to do the dungeons, learn the mechanics, and farm the gear.

Now I'm CP 1100 and getting to where I want to be.....

You can find all the knowledge you need in these forums, on dedicated ESO websites, and in build guides and videos of some of the excellent theorycrafters who share their knowledge of the game. All the information is there, from ESO basics to the most advanced resources for endgame.

So..... I understand your frustration, but in leaving a game you wanted to play, you copped out. You didn't want it enough to put in the effort to learn, just sayin'....

Don't be sad, it's a waste of time. Either invest yourself in the game if you really wanna play it, or don't and move on.

Jaimeh · December 2020

Even if you join guilds, you still have to do a lot of searching/reading/practising on your own, if you wish to understand the game and be competent. I've played for a long time and still frequently find explanations for things I didn't know, because it's a massive and complicated game. If you enjoy it, I'd suggest to join guilds specifically catered to new players that state they help with crafting, builds, dungeons, etc. If the guild turns out not to be true to its word, then join a new one, and hopefully, you will find one that does.

Sidonius · December 2020

I'm sad too, every time I try and get enfilade plunging fire from a defilade position, enemy fire goes through my cover like it's not there.

Technica · December 2020

I can't speak for everyone else but in my own experience I remember being pleasantly surprised by the ESO community.
I have never played many MMOs and ESO is probably the only one I've really put time into.
From what I've seen:
As soon as anyone asks a question (be it "where is the bank?" "how do I craft this?" "where do I go for this?" "how do I get this?" etc) you can have 5-6 people in the chat all at once give the answer.
Any question I've seen asked generally gets a quick, good answer. This will depend on peak times and amount of people in zone obviously. So I've seen greater amount of people answering in new zones that everyone is flocking to cause they're still "fresh"

Guild finder is probably the best thing to find guilds tailored to helping out players.
I find it very strange that you tried multiple guilds and found absolutely nothing. There's always at least a few people in any group I've been a part of willing to help others with anything.
But the best way of learning the game is experiencing it yourself

sure you can ask anything you like but you learn best from experience usually

stewhead2ub17_ESO · December 2020

In B4 lock

As an aside, what is the point of this post? It just oozes "pity me", & I find it's tone almost comical. This post seems as if you want others to do everything for you. Decide what you want to experience from the game, i.e.- Story, Trials, exploration etc.. then go after it. I've played since beta & have joined & parted ways with just a couple of guilds. There are so many to choose from. You have to put in the work.

ZOS_Volpe · December 2020

Greetings,

After review of the thread, we felt it best to close it for down. As stated in our community rules:
We understand that sometimes people will leave the ESO community, and want to post a “goodbye” or “quitting” thread. Generally, we have found that “goodbye” and “quitting” threads have a tendency to go downhill fast. It is our policy to read the feedback in “goodbye” and “quitting” threads and close them, regardless of whether they are constructive or not.

Thank you for your understanding