"Gates of Oblivion" selling point

Sylvermynx

LoneStar2911 wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

I’ll wait and see what the systems and worlds are - I’m really just excited that we’re getting an Argonian themed year.

Am I the only one that doesn't like Argonians?

No - I have zero use for them myself.

Vevvev

Stridig wrote: »

Emmagoldman wrote: »

Im pretty sure they are revamping pvp and adding new pvp zones.........

I'm not a lore expert but isn't this around the time the war ended? Or am I just salty about performance and expect them to end the war because they can't fix it? Lol

No, ESO takes place when the war just gets started. It'll continue for many more years to come until the Alliance leaders die and their alliances crumble. About 250-300 years from the in-game date Tiber Septim will be born and round house kick everyone and found the Septim Empire which kicks off the 3rd era.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Eso should just divert off into its own timeline tbh. Too much storytelling potential is locked off because it wouldnt fit with the predefined future.

rpa

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Rasande_Robin wrote: »

And I'm probably the only one sitting here wishing I was able to dive and explore underwater content...

Sounds cool in theory but in practice every mmo has tried it and all have failed to make it fun. Short of cheating and just having players walk on the ground normally in a underwater-styled world, I think the idea is doomed to fail. People don't like the addition of a 3rd dimension when moving around

I think I found out there was underwater in Morrowind only after some mob cast encumber or whatever it was called on my char while swimming from A to B. Oblivion had some underwater swimming. I don't remember if Skyrim had.)

Wildstar did it pretty fine. (With very little underwater 'quest: fetch this' there was.) And I mostly liked Vashj'ir in WoW, while it got bit tiresome.

Waseem

The destruction is coming

Aptonoth

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

LoneStar2911 wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

I’ll wait and see what the systems and worlds are - I’m really just excited that we’re getting an Argonian themed year.

Am I the only one that doesn't like Argonians?

People who like argonians are a minority. Trust me, we know. Which is a pity because they are such an interesting race.

Our year is coming very soon. Either 2022 or 2023.

Iccotak

Aptonoth wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

LoneStar2911 wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

I’ll wait and see what the systems and worlds are - I’m really just excited that we’re getting an Argonian themed year.

Am I the only one that doesn't like Argonians?

People who like argonians are a minority. Trust me, we know. Which is a pity because they are such an interesting race.

Our year is coming very soon. Either 2022 or 2023.

Quite possibly 2021, stay tuned

Sylvermynx

Iccotak wrote: »

Quite possibly 2021, stay tuned

Personally I hope not. For me, that would be another year I just don't mess with new content. And since I have ESO+ on two accounts.... I'm not really interested in a year where argonian crap is what I get.

Oh well. I can always just make gold off antiquities. But at some point - I'm going to be cancelling my subs and just not playing if it's stuff that's not appealing to me. Like Murkmire and "the Skyrim nostalgia garbage". Yes, antiquities are great; the rest of this year? No.

Iccotak

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

Quite possibly 2021, stay tuned

Personally I hope not. For me, that would be another year I just don't mess with new content. And since I have ESO+ on two accounts.... I'm not really interested in a year where argonian crap is what I get.

Oh well. I can always just make gold off antiquities. But at some point - I'm going to be cancelling my subs and just not playing if it's stuff that's not appealing to me. Like Murkmire and "the Skyrim nostalgia garbage". Yes, antiquities are great; the rest of this year? No.

I really enjoyed Murkmire - definitely up there with my favorites like CWC and Orsinium.
Argonians are almost always irrelevant in the mainline single player games (save for the Dark Brotherhood stuff) so it is a breath of fresh air to finally have them front and center and to see their mysterious culture for ourselves.

To me it is so weird when people basically say that they want to ignore Argonians when they are as integral to the lore as any of the playable races in Tamriel.

I don't particularly care for High Elves but that didn't stop me from playing Summerset and I don't regret learning about their culture. I thought it was a very interesting experience seeing their artificial perfection (also Gryphons are pretty cool imo) and hope to explore more of their conflict with the Sea Elves as I think that is an interesting dynamic. Eagle vs Serpent

Sylvermynx

Sorry @Iccotak - there are things in this game I just don't have an interest in. My focus is fun. Lizards aren't fun for me. I don't really have any interest in high elves personally, but Summerset was absolutely wonderful to play. Shadowfen and Murkmire are.... SO not my thing. The only thing I do there is surveys - because I just.... need all the stuffs....

Swamps suck. (Yes, I have RL experience as back up). The ONLY swamp in TES I have any interest in is Morthal. And with the gallery, I'm a happy camper there. I have about three whole novels which I wrote regarding the Ravencrone family in TES V.... Morthal is my TES home.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

I sure hope we get more argonian stuff. Imperial and argonian followed by bosmer is on my wish list of content.

Which is also why I'm not fond of these "year long" stories, because I think a lot of them has suffered because of it and just feel dragged out. A whole year of the same thing is also quite boring, even if you were to like the theme. Throw in some nonrelated story dlcs into the mix for some variety!

Iccotak

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I sure hope we get more argonian stuff. Imperial and argonian followed by bosmer is on my wish list of content.

Which is also why I'm not fond of these "year long" stories, because I think a lot of them has suffered because of it and just feel dragged out. A whole year of the same thing is also quite boring, even if you were to like the theme. Throw in some nonrelated story dlcs into the mix for some variety!

Well the post on the reveal date did mention unveiling “worlds” plural- maybe they’re taking a new approach to zones this year

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Iccotak wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I sure hope we get more argonian stuff. Imperial and argonian followed by bosmer is on my wish list of content.

Which is also why I'm not fond of these "year long" stories, because I think a lot of them has suffered because of it and just feel dragged out. A whole year of the same thing is also quite boring, even if you were to like the theme. Throw in some nonrelated story dlcs into the mix for some variety!

Well the post on the reveal date did mention unveiling “worlds” plural- maybe they’re taking a new approach to zones this year

Can hope. If we get both imperials and argonians I'd be overjoyed.

phantasmalD

If the chapter takes place in Cyrodiil i hope there will be more Minotaur lore :B

Aptonoth

Iccotak wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

Quite possibly 2021, stay tuned

Personally I hope not. For me, that would be another year I just don't mess with new content. And since I have ESO+ on two accounts.... I'm not really interested in a year where argonian crap is what I get.

Oh well. I can always just make gold off antiquities. But at some point - I'm going to be cancelling my subs and just not playing if it's stuff that's not appealing to me. Like Murkmire and "the Skyrim nostalgia garbage". Yes, antiquities are great; the rest of this year? No.

I really enjoyed Murkmire - definitely up there with my favorites like CWC and Orsinium.
Argonians are almost always irrelevant in the mainline single player games (save for the Dark Brotherhood stuff) so it is a breath of fresh air to finally have them front and center and to see their mysterious culture for ourselves.

To me it is so weird when people basically say that they want to ignore Argonians when they are as integral to the lore as any of the playable races in Tamriel.

I don't particularly care for High Elves but that didn't stop me from playing Summerset and I don't regret learning about their culture. I thought it was a very interesting experience seeing their artificial perfection (also Gryphons are pretty cool imo) and hope to explore more of their conflict with the Sea Elves as I think that is an interesting dynamic. Eagle vs Serpent

Same and I have a real life almost froze to death and had my toes cut off story. I know how much skyrim would really suck to live in before advanced technology but that doesn't stop me from enjoying it. I only like 3 races that doesn't mean I didn't have fun in other zones. Also the argonian hate is greatly exaggerated on these forums on other sites they are more popular. Personally I find every daggerfall covenant races extremely boring and useless to me. No offense to those who like them but those races a boring as plain white bread with nothing on it to me.

xAk_MoRRoWiNdx

That it'll be the first expansion since Morrowind that's based on a good ES game?

Raegwyr

Zos tend to give us less and less with each chapter release. Greymoor selling points were:
Mythic gloves for pve players (KA as trial is mediocre at best)
Mythic ring for pvp players
Mobile game (antiquities) for casuals?
So i expect less then this, probably two op mythics and maybe one or two good sets from trial/overland

DarkPicture

The Race Change Token will be on sale in the Crown Store starting on January 19 to January 21 at 10am EST.

For me it looks like we will get new races in 2021. They trying to sell tokens to let us change race now and sale will end before annoucement stream so...

They also proved it same pattern in the past with simillar things.

Raideen

I'd love more Argonian content. Argonians are the master race.

Sarousse

Don't forget there's an engine upgrade on the characters models on the way. Let's hope it'll be in this year's update.

Greasytengu

Browart wrote: »

The Race Change Token will be on sale in the Crown Store starting on January 19 to January 21 at 10am EST.

For me it looks like we will get new races in 2021. They trying to sell tokens to let us change race now and sale will end before annoucement stream so...

They also proved it same pattern in the past with simillar things.

i think the tokens go on sale every new year.

DarkPicture

Sarousse wrote: »

Don't forget there's an engine upgrade on the characters models on the way. Let's hope it'll be in this year's update.

source?

Mix

Horse Armor!

xaraan

My bet is the best outcome to expect is a new skill line of some type.

Maybe not even that though. Seems like they enjoy trimming what they include in each expansion and if they rework CP and or raise gear cap, they might consider that "reward enough". Hopefully I'm wrong there.

But I do not expect to see new classes or new weapons style added to the game at all in the future. I'm like Hawkeye in Endgame: don't give me hope.

Finedaible

Browart wrote: »

Sarousse wrote: »

Don't forget there's an engine upgrade on the characters models on the way. Let's hope it'll be in this year's update.

source?

I never heard of such a thing coming. They already confirmed we won't be getting a new class so I doubt they will be overhauling character models either since that would probably be far more work than creating a new class. If you are referencing that AMA with Rich way back in May, he only said they would release more hair styles, which have been turning up in gamble crates since.

Zorgon_The_Revenged

Zorgon_The_Revenged wrote: »

I had a thought that they might add a solo/story mode to dungeons. It strangely fitted with the teaser trailer when I thought about it.

I'm not sure how possible it would be to retro fit that sort of thing, due to dungeon/boss mechanics. Being an MMO you might ask why, but some do have solo story mode often to unlock the dungeon. If it is possible, eases strain on the group finder, increases sales of anything or even retains a certain part of the player base, it could happen.

Well, if these "companions" coming with the next chapter are able to be taken into dungeons, I guess I was....



That being said, they'd have to have some pretty good AI to not get wrecked in some dungeons. I could just imagine a boss running out of my AOE ulti towards some dumb NPC....might as well take your chances with randoms in dungeon finder, I'd at least get unique chatter through the dungeon and a GG at the end.