(Magicka) Templar balancing - no love - no logic

Calm_Fury

There was a very funny post a while back that exemplified this with the Shards changes.

It was basically "buff damage by 30%" followed by "decrease damage by 33%" for about 5 or 6 patches, back and forth.

Then they did the skill changes to make very class viable on every role (which was great, btw), but that was the worst thing for Templars. They suffered in the healing part, are the only tank class that suffers tremendously in anything more difficult, and lack as DPS.

Templar is probably the most disfunctional of all classes after all the changes for the last couple of years. Which is sad. Used to be my main and preferred class. Now I barely play.

Everest_Lionheart

Joy_Division wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

Everything what you've written is of course true, recently playing mag sorc and it just makes me sad how much better it is in every role. But you haven't even touched upon my two biggest pet peeves regarding templars.
1. meme ultimates, none are worth slotting using at the moment. We only slot aedric spear ultimate for the passive, which brings me to my next point:
2. meme passives. Burning light gutted, yeah, but have you had a look at some of the other passives? Objectively they are half the strength of comparable passives from other classes. Where is the standardization when it benefits templars, ZOS? Ritual of retribution is nerfed because it did does too many things yet arctic blast exists?

Errr I play many classes and I'm not sure what you mean. Templar is probably the easiest DPS in the game. Magplar I have no trouble hitting 90k while I top out at just under 90k on Magsorc on my best parses. Magplar are also practically unkillable thanks to their main DPS tool also healing them. They are probably the easiest class for soloing content. Stamplar is even easier dps. I leveled a stamplar last week. I spent just three hours practicing with it this weekend and hit 101k. It's ridiculously easy. The AoE damage is also very high without sacrificing single target. Compared to my Magsorc dps at about 90k which I've been playing for years.

Templars are a bit lacking in the tank department but are excellent healers and dps. Being strong in two roles and mediocre in the third isn't what I would consider bad and there is no way I would consider calling them 'worse than sorc in every way'. That's a crazy over exaggeration.

There is actually playing ESO and then there is target dummy humping.

I have a similar experience to the guy you quoted here but I don’t parse as high. Mine tips out at 77K on the dummy.

As you say playing the actual content is king though and I find magplar to be one of the easier classes to play. Of course I use a different setup to raid than I do to dummy hump, one that benefits my group more so I can throw shards at one tank, orbs at the dps and position myself so the main tank can grab a synergy from my RoR. I run the destro ulti mainly for trash/adds. It will never be superstar DPS but it supports the group incredibly well compared to my MagDK that is there to burn things all day.

StarOfElyon

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Change Hasty Prayer into a health based heal for tanks. The argument that they are a point of contention should not matter if all the other classes have one. Templar tanks needs some sort of cc that they can actually use.

Make Breath of life scale with highest offensive stat like Ritual of Retribution does. Give stamina a chance at healing the same as magic does.

In fact, let the entire resto staff scale with highest offensive stat.

Give stamplar a stamina morph of Toppling Charge.

Why can’t Biting Jabs heal the same as Puncturing Sweep after all both morphs of Necromancer’s Death Scythe heal.

Give shards the same unlimited synergy resources return as orbs.

Why can’t burning light stack last 3 seconds from every source to give templar a chance at better chance of it producing instead of 1 second.

Don’t get me started on Nova and its morphs. Does anyone even use it anymore? Very rarely see it used at all.

Backlash and its morph need a better shorter burst time. Comparing it to Scorch and blastbones is a joke.

Ah who am I kidding ZOS doesn’t love templar’s anymore compared to the kids on the block or the old one’s either for that matter. At least we are target dummies warriors cause if they gave what I ask for we would complete for the top spot.

I'm starting to doubt that people asking for health based heals are actually playing tanks. I'm more inclined to believe they are health stacking stamplars. That's just based on the number of high health builds I'm seeing in battle grounds.