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Wrothgar Relic Hunter: Relics missing from correct place, appearing in museum instead.
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I have encountered the same bug that many people have been having, in THIS discussion thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/529609/wrothgar-relic-hunter-items-spawned-inside-their-display-cases-now-unable-to-get-the-achievement
Specifically: Some of the 20 "Wrothgar Relics" are not in their correct positions in the wild, but have instead spawned in their boxes, or on their pedestals, in the Museum of Orsimer Glories in Orsinium, despite the fact that I (or the other people with this bug) never placed them there.
This means the player (me) is unable to actually COLLECT them and get the greater "Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter" Achievement for doing so, because they are not there to be collected - and can never enter the player's inventory to be placed in the museum.
My missing artifacts (player account name: @jle30303, character name: Justarian, a Breton Templar) are as follows:
Eye of Zthenganaz
Guthrag's Mask
Liquid Silver
Trinimac House Idol
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Given that this always seems to happen towards the end of the collection process (for every player whom it has happened, in the above quoted thread), I suspect the bug actually happens at the moment of gaining the lesser "Wrothgar Relic Hunter" Achievement, for returning 16 of the 20: and the reason some players have been able to return 17, 18 or 19 is that they had more than one relic in their inventory when they returned the 16th, and were able to return the others that they currently held... but, once they left the museum, were not able to get the remainder of the 20.
Firstly, this needs fixing.
Secondly, there is a current workaround available for players who already know about the bug but have not triggered it: to get to 15 relics, then go collect all five of the remaining ones and place them in one trip.
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Thirdly, I would like to propose a "hotfix" which should in general fix any bugged players:
Reading the plaque below an artifact should (1) trigger a check to see if the artifact is already there, and (2) IF it is already there, trigger a check to see if the player already has the credit for putting it there, and (3) IF the player does not have that credit, give them that credit, THEN FINALLY (4) check to see if this makes them eligible for the Wrothgar Relic Hunter and Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter achievements.
Under the above terms: If the artifact is NOT there, nothing happens, so no player gets credit for an artifact that is still in the wild (or in their inventory). BUT, if it is there, and the player placed it correctly, then they already have the credit from when they placed it, so they're fine: and if it isn't, then they get the credit, which un-bugs the player for that particular artifact, and lets them actually progress towards the Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter achievement.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/529609/wrothgar-relic-hunter-items-spawned-inside-their-display-cases-now-unable-to-get-the-achievement
Specifically: Some of the 20 "Wrothgar Relics" are not in their correct positions in the wild, but have instead spawned in their boxes, or on their pedestals, in the Museum of Orsimer Glories in Orsinium, despite the fact that I (or the other people with this bug) never placed them there.
This means the player (me) is unable to actually COLLECT them and get the greater "Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter" Achievement for doing so, because they are not there to be collected - and can never enter the player's inventory to be placed in the museum.
My missing artifacts (player account name: @jle30303, character name: Justarian, a Breton Templar) are as follows:
Eye of Zthenganaz
Guthrag's Mask
Liquid Silver
Trinimac House Idol
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Given that this always seems to happen towards the end of the collection process (for every player whom it has happened, in the above quoted thread), I suspect the bug actually happens at the moment of gaining the lesser "Wrothgar Relic Hunter" Achievement, for returning 16 of the 20: and the reason some players have been able to return 17, 18 or 19 is that they had more than one relic in their inventory when they returned the 16th, and were able to return the others that they currently held... but, once they left the museum, were not able to get the remainder of the 20.
Firstly, this needs fixing.
Secondly, there is a current workaround available for players who already know about the bug but have not triggered it: to get to 15 relics, then go collect all five of the remaining ones and place them in one trip.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thirdly, I would like to propose a "hotfix" which should in general fix any bugged players:
Reading the plaque below an artifact should (1) trigger a check to see if the artifact is already there, and (2) IF it is already there, trigger a check to see if the player already has the credit for putting it there, and (3) IF the player does not have that credit, give them that credit, THEN FINALLY (4) check to see if this makes them eligible for the Wrothgar Relic Hunter and Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter achievements.
Under the above terms: If the artifact is NOT there, nothing happens, so no player gets credit for an artifact that is still in the wild (or in their inventory). BUT, if it is there, and the player placed it correctly, then they already have the credit from when they placed it, so they're fine: and if it isn't, then they get the credit, which un-bugs the player for that particular artifact, and lets them actually progress towards the Wrothgar Master Relic Hunter achievement.
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