Anyone with the new Ryzen 5000 who wants to compare performance in ESO.

Grimlok_S

Also on a 4690K/DDR3/1070.

I'm locked at 4.4ghz and get a solid 144 frames open world or out-of-the-way places, typically see lows of 70s in combat, BGs, etc. Though much worse in Cyrodiil.

My issue has been that while FPS is overall in a good place, it's my frametime that sucks. Once my client has been open for some time I get regular hitching, frametime exceeding 100ms.


I remember adjusting some of the WorkerThread related lines in the .ini, (iirc ESO is largely single core bound?)

New Ryzen users, have you seen any improvement in core utilization, or are similar adjustments necessary in the .ini for new Ryzen cpus?

kojou

I still use a 4790 and I have a RTX 2070 and I feel like the bottleneck is the the server in most situations I never see my CPU utilization go more than 50%. There would probably be a bit of a performance improvement here and there if I upgraded, but not worth the money to me for ESO. You might see a 15% improvement on loading times (if you are not bottle-necked by storage), but you would probably only be able to tell that if you used a stop watch.

Now if there was another game or application I wanted to use and it had higher CPU requirements than what I have then I could see upgrading, but with ESO using about half of my 4790 and only half utilization on my 2070 I don't feel like throwing hardware at ESO will improve much.

ImmortalCX

I took the old HD7850 card from my 4790K @ 4.6GHz, 16G (in anticipation of a modern upgrade, wasnt able to snag a 3060) and put it into my OLD PhenomII x4 B50 @ 3.6GHz, 8G. 1080p 60Hz.

Frankly, the CPU and memory downgrade did not hurt the performance as much as anticipated, from a practical standpoint.

The 4790K /HD7850 would avg 45fps on HIGH. 60+ on MEDIUM.

The X4 B50 /HD7850 avg 55-60fps on MEDIUM.


Both totally fluid on MEDIUM.

The 4790K gave me the option to run HIGH settings, but it would occasionally bog down and make me wish it was on MEDIUM.

I dont think a CPU upgrade will ever take it to the "next level." 4790K still has strong single core performance and is viable.

The difference between HIGH and MEDIUM is not that great from an overall gameplay perspective.

I'm actually enjoying playing on the 10yo Phenom2, true potato.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought you so capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Bashev wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought ESO capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Turning VSync off and adding some changes in the config file unlock the fps.

@Bashev
You got a link to the changes? I dont run Vsync because I have a Gsync monitor.

ArchMikem

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

Khajiitihaswares

ArchMikem wrote: »

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-turing-production-end-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-card-launch-close/

Chip supplier stopped producing them. So you have to search for left over stock...

As to the OP... Might see difference maybe? But thats a stretch from that CPU depends what build was before...

Using 8700k at 5.2ghz and 2080 eso on ultra with no issues.... You will see differences in benchmarks obviously but from a user end point might not see much of a change less your system is or was dying.

Bashev

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought you so capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Bashev wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought ESO capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Turning VSync off and adding some changes in the config file unlock the fps.

@Bashev
You got a link to the changes? I dont run Vsync because I have a Gsync monitor.

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

This is the guide.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Bashev wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought you so capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Bashev wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

Not exactly on the topic but I have i7 4790kand 1080Ti, I play on 3440x1440 100Hz. I used to have 40-50 FPS in Battlegrounds, I reinstalled the game, removed all addons and now I have 150 FPS in high MMR AAOE I have around 100 FPS.

It was tough the first few days without addons but you can get used with it.

I thought ESO capped at 100 FPS. Is there some workaround I am not aware of?

Turning VSync off and adding some changes in the config file unlock the fps.

@Bashev
You got a link to the changes? I dont run Vsync because I have a Gsync monitor.

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

This is the guide.

Thanks! Will give it a try later.

ArchMikem

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-turing-production-end-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-card-launch-close/

Chip supplier stopped producing them. So you have to search for left over stock...

As to the OP... Might see difference maybe? But thats a stretch from that CPU depends what build was before...

Using 8700k at 5.2ghz and 2080 eso on ultra with no issues.... You will see differences in benchmarks obviously but from a user end point might not see much of a change less your system is or was dying.

So then by the time I actually will need to upgrade the only cards available will be the 30 series. Which means I need a new PSU as well since the one I JUST bought is only a 550w.

And they say PC gaming is better than Console.

Ruder

ArchMikem wrote: »

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-turing-production-end-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-card-launch-close/

Chip supplier stopped producing them. So you have to search for left over stock...

As to the OP... Might see difference maybe? But thats a stretch from that CPU depends what build was before...

Using 8700k at 5.2ghz and 2080 eso on ultra with no issues.... You will see differences in benchmarks obviously but from a user end point might not see much of a change less your system is or was dying.

So then by the time I actually will need to upgrade the only cards available will be the 30 series. Which means I need a new PSU as well since the one I JUST bought is only a 550w.

And they say PC gaming is better than Console.

With 550w you can safely use 3060ti or even 3070

sagitter

A friend mine got the new ryzen 5600x coupled with nvidia gtx 1070 and he said in Eso got an impressive boost in fps with the new Cpu:



You can see in this screenshot he has 475 fps in Craglorn, ofc it's not all on high/ ultra settings but still impressive.

sagitter

In the house, 959 fps :

ArchMikem

Ruder wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-turing-production-end-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-card-launch-close/

Chip supplier stopped producing them. So you have to search for left over stock...

As to the OP... Might see difference maybe? But thats a stretch from that CPU depends what build was before...

Using 8700k at 5.2ghz and 2080 eso on ultra with no issues.... You will see differences in benchmarks obviously but from a user end point might not see much of a change less your system is or was dying.

So then by the time I actually will need to upgrade the only cards available will be the 30 series. Which means I need a new PSU as well since the one I JUST bought is only a 550w.

And they say PC gaming is better than Console.

With 550w you can safely use 3060ti or even 3070

Serious? I'd been watching Jayz2Cents and his vids gave me the impression the 30 series cards were more power hungry than the 20 series. There was even one from LTT where the PC would black screen cause the GPU kept trying to draw more than what the PSU could give under load, and he recommended a 1000w PSU to make sure that didn't happen with that card. (can't remember which specifically)

Grimlok_S

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

Mariusghost84

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

@Grimlok_S Thanks for sharing this bro! Im getting my Geforce 3090 with Ryzen 5800x any day now. Will do some testing and report in

WiseSky

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

3440x1440 OR 2560x1440

Ruder

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

Your GPU is ancient(but it is not the problem for low fps in PvP), reducing Texture, grass or Shadows quality will do NOTHING to improve performance in PvP or Trials .
There are only 2 impactful settings:
* View Distance
* Water reflections (keep them on low)
Everything else will not impact performance in scenarios where there are a lot of players.

By the way on which server do you play (I have characters on both PC EU and NA) so we can group together and compare performance in same areas with same game settings (please provide your @accountname)

Ruder

ArchMikem wrote: »

Ruder wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

As much as I would love an R5 5600 with an RTX 3060, just so I can know my PC is near top of the line, I know that will never happen unless it's like, ten years from now and those parts become the obsolete ones you find in the discount bin while everyone is clammoring for the Ryzen 9 9900X whatever.

Besides I barely game on my PC anyway, and my R5 1600AF and GTX 1660Ti fares well enough for what I do. Thinking about getting an RTX 2070 Super for my next near future upgrade but for some reason you can't find any 20 series cards new anymore.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-20-turing-production-end-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-card-launch-close/

Chip supplier stopped producing them. So you have to search for left over stock...

As to the OP... Might see difference maybe? But thats a stretch from that CPU depends what build was before...

Using 8700k at 5.2ghz and 2080 eso on ultra with no issues.... You will see differences in benchmarks obviously but from a user end point might not see much of a change less your system is or was dying.

So then by the time I actually will need to upgrade the only cards available will be the 30 series. Which means I need a new PSU as well since the one I JUST bought is only a 550w.

And they say PC gaming is better than Console.

With 550w you can safely use 3060ti or even 3070

Serious? I'd been watching Jayz2Cents and his vids gave me the impression the 30 series cards were more power hungry than the 20 series. There was even one from LTT where the PC would black screen cause the GPU kept trying to draw more than what the PSU could give under load, and he recommended a 1000w PSU to make sure that didn't happen with that card. (can't remember which specifically)

I`m dead serious, as long as you have gold or platinum PSU you wont have problems with RTX 3000,
I`m with RTX 3090 (Palit gaming Pro) and a 650w EVGA Gold PSU paired with overclocked 7gen i7 to 5ghz and have no issues in the past 3 months, I also can overclock the GPU without any issues, achieving +100 mhz on the cores and +350 on the memory.

Grimlok_S

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

@Grimlok_S Thanks for sharing this bro! Im getting my Geforce 3090 with Ryzen 5800x any day now. Will do some testing and report in

@Mariusghost84 That's a hell of a combo, grats! I went back and forth over the 5800x.. I don't do enough to justify the extra cores of the 5800 with a relatively similar clock rate.

My advice is consider a quality AIO cooler.. I switched from an AIO to air cooling and damn, these things run hot. Average running temp in PvP is 70C with an aggressive curve.

I'm just running my motherboards enabled gameboost instead of a manual fixed overclock for now, vcore shooting up to 1.4 makes me kind of nervous.

WiseSky wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

3440x1440 OR 2560x1440

2560x1440

Ruder wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Hey gang, I ended up picking up a 5600x. On my 1070, I do see a good framerate improvement @ 1440p/144hz

I set my cap to 200fps and tend to sit between 190-200 in town, while AOE heavy BGs tend to see lows of 90 or so, while the average is 120+.

To achieve this, I ended up lowering the Textures to High. (MIP Load Levels were set to -1 previously)
Minimum particles, minimum particle distance, low shadows, no water, low grass, none of the options near the bottom of the settings menu enabled.

I'm finding that while my framrate stays pretty consistent 190-200, my frametime still sees regular spikes.. I'm curious if there are any ini tweaks that can help with this, or maybe it's addon related.

Your GPU is ancient(but it is not the problem for low fps in PvP), reducing Texture, grass or Shadows quality will do NOTHING to improve performance in PvP or Trials .
There are only 2 impactful settings:
* View Distance
* Water reflections (keep them on low)
Everything else will not impact performance in scenarios where there are a lot of players.

By the way on which server do you play (I have characters on both PC EU and NA) so we can group together and compare performance in same areas with same game settings (please provide your @accountname)

Not really, considering it is newer than the game by 2 years. It only ever sees ~50% utilization in this game anyway.. I was open to upgrading this cycle, but you know what availability looks like. Not going to bother.

Though, I have noted textures to have an impact. At least in my limited testing. I was running at MIP LOAD LEVELS -1, which is beyond HIGH in the in-game settings. I was averaging around 90fps in an overland setting. Reducing to HIGH brought frames up.

Shadows do have an impact as well, I disable them completely.

I'll have to look at View distance.. I like to keep visibility of as much of the BG map/IC as I can, can't stand players fading out. IIRC mine is in the 60s right now.

I'm sure there are loads more optimizations to be made in the ini, I just can't recall what does what.
I remember specifically adjusting num Workerthreads and related lines for my 4690k, back in the day.

I'm on NA, @Grimlok_Stormshatter if you want to poke around some.

mickeyx

Ruder wrote: »

I`m proud owner of almost 4 year old Intel 7700k, I`m thinking of upgrading to Ryzen 5800x if there is more than 15% performance increase in ESO,
So anyone who owns some of the 5000 series Ryzen and wants to compare performance under specific circumstances please send me a message or comment here in the thread

I have the new Ryzen 7 5800x cpu paired with new Nvidia rtx 3070. 32 gb ram.

My normal fps is 100+ at 2k resolution. Everything maxed out. When a lot is going on screen for example open world bosses and large scale PvP. My fps dips to 75 to 80 but never below that.